stimpsonjcat 0 Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 I have been trying to find a method of attaching the stimpcatch's that will not require any modifications to the users Saiga. I think I have a solution, but unfortunately the only hardware I can currently find is all zinc plated or stainless. I have some black parts on order from MSC and I hope to be able to refinish some locknuts and stimpcatches soon so that all the parts will look good on the gun. At least one of the beta testers is going to get their catch as is, some others have opted to wait til I have refinished them and have better parts. I will keep you guys posted as things progress. One issue with the current versions from the machine shop is that the forward edge is a little bit back (maybe 1/32") from the edge of the magwell. This can cause a binding problem. Also, the part is flat on the magwell side and if left this way it gouges the plastic backing on the mags a bit more than I'd like. I will grind this at an angle on the units that get sold most likely. The setback might be an issue and we will have to see what the beta guys think. Any tinker-types that might want a beta sample to try can contact me, since these aren't 100% I may not sell them, but folks who like to play with parts and files and such are welcome to try them and offer feedback. See ya! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Full Metal Jacket 0 Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Hi, I'd like to try one of the beta samples, Please. I sent you a PM. Thanks Randy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Heck yeah I would like a Stimpcatch to tinker around with. Does it still mount on the axis pin of the mag catch? Does it still look like this? PM sent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mopeman 0 Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Hey I'd give it a whirl, I'm in the process of collecting parts to do my conversion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ForGreatJustice 1 Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 I'd like to give one a try. Perhaps I can find a more universal geometry that will solve the fitment problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kmoore 3 Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 I'd like one too, PM me if you can send me one and I'll send you my mailing addy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eston 0 Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 Sure, send me one. email me at eston.bond at gmail.com; I'll mail ya stamp or two and report to you on it. I think I might send my S12 in for conversion soon, but as of now it's totally OEM... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiny 2 Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 I'll take one. PM sent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
USMC_LB 4 Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 stimpsonjcat, just wanted to know I received my StimpCatch in the white today ! I AM EXCITED ! As soon as I am done here I will go and start playing with how to mount it and stuff. I saw where you said these protos are a little out of your first "spec" What problems should I expect to forsee and where exactly do you think some "filing" and work will be needed ? I noticed that none of my 1/8 drill bits will fit into the hole. Actually, it will fit in but only just a very little bit... give me the low down on this... LB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
USP40 1 Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Are you selling them yet ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ForGreatJustice 1 Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Yo, Stimpy, I just got mine today. You're a genius. This thing looks to be specced just right! Rather than file a lot on the catch to fit, I'm just going to remove a chunk from the safety stop plate that is screwed on between my trigger guard and the receiver. That way, only minimal filiing on the catch itself is needed. I'd rather use the bolt and Gun-Tite instead of pinning it. More drop-in. Are you selling them yet ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Prophet 1 Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 I'm willing to dedicate one of my s-12's to the R&D cause. Count me in. -P. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stimpsonjcat 0 Posted March 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 No I am not selling these yet. I am also shutting down the beta program for now as I think I have enough testers. Some of you who have not gotten catches will get some as soon as I can get them in the mail. No promises on who will or won't get one as I only have so many samples. Here is the current best mounting solution I currently have. Go to ACE hardware and buy the following part #s 43130-J 43131-K 43132-M these are two M3 x 50 metric bolts and a nylon nut for them. Basically you then knock out the retaining pin and reassemble the spring catch and paddle with the bolt and nut. It should work out that the nut will stay against the receiver bottom and allow you to tighten the stimpcatch against the left side ear. Hopefully little if any fitting will be required. You WILL have to grind enough material off of the bolt head to get it to turn when inserted through the ears. I did not have to do any fitting on the test unit I tried here. I did note that the front edge of the catch was back a bit from the edge of the magwell. This may cause feeding problems, please let me know. You may also want to file one side of the long forward face to match the angle of the plastic on the mags more closely. If you do not the flat face tends to gouge the plastic on the back of the mags. I do not know if this will ever cause any problems or not. Here is a link to a shot of my original that shows the angle. Please use my home email for feedback as the board stuff is aggravating to use. bruceperry@removealltel.net without the word remove. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stimpsonjcat 0 Posted March 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 stimpsonjcat, just wanted to know I received my StimpCatch in the white today ! I AM EXCITED ! As soon as I am done here I will go and start playing with how to mount it and stuff. I saw where you said these protos are a little out of your first "spec" What problems should I expect to forsee and where exactly do you think some "filing" and work will be needed ? I noticed that none of my 1/8 drill bits will fit into the hole. Actually, it will fit in but only just a very little bit... give me the low down on this... LB <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Don't bother with the drill bit unless the metric bolt won't fit thru. If you want to go the route of drilling and using the 1/8" bit like I originally did, be aware you will have to drill out several parts like the mag release lever and the mag release spring ears to make it work. The bolt solution is easier and reversible. I am trying to find more attractive, hex head, bolts to use. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Full Metal Jacket 0 Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Hey Stimpson, Did you ever get the PM or email with my mailing address? Thanks Randy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiny 2 Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Hey Stimpson,Did you ever get the PM or email with my mailing address? Thanks Randy <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ditto on that Q? I hadn't received a reply to either my PM or email that I had sent you. Just checking. Take care. Tiny Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stimpsonjcat 0 Posted March 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 Guys I haven't had a chance for the last few days to try to figure out who contacted me and in what order. I loathe board IMs on these boards and prefer emails to my home account since I regularly check that. As I stated before, no promises on who will or won't get a beta catch, I will do my best to send them to folks in the order that I was contacted, BUT, these are free...so no whining or complaining if you don't get one. I will say if you have not sent me an email yet, please don't. There are already more folks on the list than there are beta catches. I'll get on this next week again hopefully. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuart2 0 Posted March 26, 2005 Report Share Posted March 26, 2005 Hi Guys the stimpcatch will stop the deformation of the 12ga bullets? Example: with 6 rounds in the 5 round mag, can deform the top 12ga bullets to where the bullet will not fit into the chamber. Stu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stimpsonjcat 0 Posted March 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2005 No, the stimpcatch will not prevent top round deformation. Do a search for top round deformation or similar as I did post a seperate mod for the bolt that helps with both this and insertion of magazines. I think between the stimpcatch, and the other mod to the bolt, mag insertion issues are pretty much alleviated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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