my762buzz 141 Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) Some preconversion reference pictures. I can't tell if the barrel muzzle is threaded. Peeking through the bore on the chamber end the chamber is stepped. Edited January 23, 2010 by my762buzz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted January 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) Conversion pictures coming soon. Edited January 17, 2010 by my762buzz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thehopping1 105 Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Conversion pictures coming soon. Sweet That's one clean riffle you have there. I don't even remember when mine was that clean. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stomper4x4 1 Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Always like to see a saiga being upgraded. Those are some damn nice pics, what camera are you using, with what sort of lens? Macro? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Update with pics! we love em around here! GL! Update with pics! we love em around here! GL! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulry 50 Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Photos are great, thanks! A stock Saiga is a nice no nonsense firearm. I was into the Mini 14's in the early 80's and for some reason the stock Saiga reminds me of that (you know in the beginning the Mini 14 only had the standard low capacity mag 5 or 10 rounds only! Higher capacity mags did not even exist!) I don't blame you for wanting the photos of the stock rifle. Good camera work by the way. Frosty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Great pix! They will make an excellent reference both for your build, and for general reference for the rest of us! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) nice pics, good close-ups! could you snap a head on pic of your muzzle? i just want to see if there is a noticeable difference between barrels that are threaded with the cap on and barrels that arent threaded, with the cap on. theory is, if you have a threaded barrel, they should be noticeable under the cap. since your chamber is stepped, i'm curious what a possibly non threaded barrel looks like with the cap on. Edited January 17, 2010 by Mullet Man 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted January 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Conversion pictures coming soon. Sweet That's one clean riffle you have there. I don't even remember when mine was that clean. Clean it is. That chrome lined gas chamber sparkles when the light strikes it at just the right angle. Always like to see a saiga being upgraded. Those are some damn nice pics, what camera are you using, with what sort of lens? Macro? Thanks its a Kodak C180 with 10.2 Megapixels many close ups were done with the micro setting. The lense is the standard one that isnonremovable, but I used it on the wide angle setting. Its does pretty good for something that cost $100 new. Update with pics! we love em around here! GL! Update with pics! we love em around here! GL! Yes, I will. Photos are great, thanks! A stock Saiga is a nice no nonsense firearm. I was into the Mini 14's in the early 80's and for some reason the stock Saiga reminds me of that (you know in the beginning the Mini 14 only had the standard low capacity mag 5 or 10 rounds only! Higher capacity mags did not even exist!) I don't blame you for wanting the photos of the stock rifle. Good camera work by the way. Frosty Thanks nice pics, good close-ups! could you snap a head on pic of your muzzle? i just want to see if there is a noticeable difference between barrels that are threaded with the cap on and barrels that arent threaded, with the cap on. theory is, if you have a threaded barrel, they should be noticeable under the cap. since your chamber is stepped, i'm curious what a possibly non threaded barrel looks like with the cap on. Thanks. I will go ahead and get a few head ons and have them up in a few minutes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
elvis christ 451 Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 I'm doubting that there's any threads under there, there's no mag well dimples. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted January 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 nice pics, good close-ups! could you snap a head on pic of your muzzle? i just want to see if there is a noticeable difference between barrels that are threaded with the cap on and barrels that arent threaded, with the cap on. theory is, if you have a threaded barrel, they should be noticeable under the cap. since your chamber is stepped, i'm curious what a possibly non threaded barrel looks like with the cap on. It wasn't easy to get a good focus on the crown. The chrome mirror reflection fuzzes the picture when the flash engages. Heres the best out of 20 pictures the rest were way to fuzzy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted January 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Also as a point of reference, the rifling seen should technically be 4 grooves and 4 lands with a 1 in 9.5 twist rate 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted January 18, 2010 Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 Thanks for the pics! comparing those to the pics on page 5 by 'TR Young' in the "i have a factory threaded barrel" thread, you can certainly see a difference. someone needs to combine all this good info into one thread and make it a sticky. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rifleshooter474 2 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 what is the finish really like. I can't tell but it looks strange, might be the lighting or it's still coated with grease. What is the price of that Russian American Armory AK? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted January 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 what is the finish really like. I can't tell but it looks strange, might be the lighting or it's still coated with grease. What is the price of that Russian American Armory AK? Its black factory paint. $350 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted January 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I found some thing unusual. Retainer side notches. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted January 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 5 minutes of filing on the rear latch produces a beautiful thing called magazine compatibility. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 (edited) I found some thing unusual. Retainer side notches. Have you read the "I got a factory threaded barrel?" wasnt this in it? Im having dejavu you might check it out. Edited January 19, 2010 by chevyman097 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted January 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 (edited) Yes I seen that thread. My barrel also has a chamber step. I am not really sure about threads on the end. Edited January 19, 2010 by my762buzz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted January 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 10 minutes with a drill bit. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 cool just checking, i really didnt dive into as I dont care to thread my barrel, i just remember seeing somthing about the notches. GL anyways. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted January 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 3 rivets drilled out in 30 minutes of actual work. The plate is gone. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted January 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 To set up for drilling into the trunnion, I crazy glued a nut in place to keep the drill bit from moving around before it finally bites in. This was a precaution due t othe fact I am using a handdrill. This worked real well. I got a good pilot hole going with a number 6 cobalt bit and later switched to a number 8 after 3 number 6 bits broke on the way through. After 10 minutes I had a nice clean hole all the way through. Next I used a 8-32 tap to thread the hole. I used plenty of gun oil in the hole to prevent the tap from seizing up. 3 minutes with the tap and I was done. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted January 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted January 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 My saiga factory trigger guard has been recycled into this new version. My home made bullet guide works perfect. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
photoshooter 5 Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 I found some thing unusual. Retainer side notches. So you can use a standard AK press-on handguard retainer? That would be very convenient for those of use who want to use traditional handguards, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 sweet camera work, some nice close ups. That was a great idea with the hotglue and nut, I shoulda tryed that. Got my hole a little off but it still bolted down fine. What did you make that bullet guide out of? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reverendfranz 160 Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Best photo reference thread i have seen yet. Keep it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kope007 14 Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 yes great pics. Could someone show which picture references the "step". I'm not sure i'm understanding that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my762buzz 141 Posted January 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 yes great pics. Could someone show which picture references the "step". I'm not sure i'm understanding that. Its between the two red lines/arrows below. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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