Drilling new holes for trigger pins?

[essohbe 47]

For moving the trigger group forward during conversion, are there new locations for holes that need to be drilled through the reciever's sides for new placement of the pins?

[beefcakeb99 572]

UMMM No. They are already there.

[nalioth 405]

No.

 

Do not use a drill during a conversion, except for installing a bullet guide.

 

Watch the video: Saiga conversion

[beefcakeb99 572]

Hmmmm It sure looks to me like he used a drill? How else to remove the shoulder pins? essohbe If you have a saiga, or can look at a picture of one, the two pins under the scope mount but not touching them are the real pin holes you want to use. On the other side they are in between the trigger guard and mag latch on the side.

Edited August 16, 2010 by beefcakeb0

[madmax4x4 68]

Hmmmm It sure looks to me like he used a drill? How else to remove the shoulder pins? essohbe If you have a saiga, or can look at a picture of one, the two pins under the scope mount but not touching them are the real pin holes you want to use. On the other side they are in between the trigger guard and mag latch on the side.

You can remove the pins with a punch, you don't have to drill out the old pins

[corbin 621]

 

You can remove the pins with a punch, you don't have to drill out the old pins

 

 

I never knew that. I thought you had to drill them first.

[nalioth 405]

 

You can remove the pins with a punch, you don't have to drill out the old pins

 

 

I never knew that. I thought you had to drill them first.

I believe Max is referring to the cold chisel + punch method.

 

If you just punch them without rolling up the shoulders first with the cold chisel, you'll bend your receiver.

[paprotective 362]

The 'steel gray' pins are your Trigger and Hammer pins after conversion.. Where they are located are where they go.

 

The black roll pins that you may have drilled the 'shoulders' off of are not required after conversion.. that is where the little black plastic hole plugs go (or you weld the holes shut)..

 

If you drill any other holes, it better be for a bullet guide.. (which is inside the trunnion area)..

 

 

Al

[geepelton 105]

 

You can remove the pins with a punch, you don't have to drill out the old pins

 

 

I never knew that. I thought you had to drill them first.

I believe Max is referring to the cold chisel + punch method.

 

If you just punch them without rolling up the shoulders first with the cold chisel, you'll bend your receiver.

Not true at all. I used a punch and did not bend my receiver.

[essohbe 47]

"...the two pins under the scope mount but not touching them are the real pin holes you want to use."

 

Thank you Beefcake, this is what I was getting at/wanted to ask but didn't know quite how.

 

I don't have a Saiga yet, all i can do is look at my 7.62 AK and kinda get ideas based on picture comparisons.

 

Seems like it is stupid easy to convert, can't imagine why more people don't.

 

 

Thanks all.

Edited August 17, 2010 by essohbe

[number1punk 17]

"...the two pins under the scope mount but not touching them are the real pin holes you want to use."

 

Thank you Beefcake, this is what I was getting at/wanted to ask but didn't know quite how.

 

I don't have a Saiga yet, all i can do is look at my 7.62 AK and kinda get ideas based on picture comparisons.

 

Seems like it is stupid easy to convert, can't imagine why more people don't.

 

 

Thanks all.

 

people tend to over-complicate things, which is why i usually have a living room full of other people's guns and guitars that need simple work, but the owners are afraid of messing something up.

[essohbe 47]

people tend to over-complicate things, which is why i usually have a living room full of other people's guns and guitars that need simple work, but the owners are afraid of messing something up.

 

Lol. So places like Aresenal Inc are doing about a half-hours worth of work and charging people $900 for the gun then.

Damn, I'm in the wrong buisness....

[308SAIGA 55]

 

You can remove the pins with a punch, you don't have to drill out the old pins

 

 

I never knew that. I thought you had to drill them first.

I believe Max is referring to the cold chisel + punch method.

 

If you just punch them without rolling up the shoulders first with the cold chisel, you'll bend your receiver.

Not true at all. I used a punch and did not bend my receiver.

 

Then you did a 308 conversion and not any other caliber, everyone here knows that you have to drill the heads off of any other caliber, except the 308, then punch the pins out....

[geepelton 105]

 

You can remove the pins with a punch, you don't have to drill out the old pins

 

 

I never knew that. I thought you had to drill them first.

I believe Max is referring to the cold chisel + punch method.

 

If you just punch them without rolling up the shoulders first with the cold chisel, you'll bend your receiver.

Not true at all. I used a punch and did not bend my receiver.

 

Then you did a 308 conversion and not any other caliber, everyone here knows that you have to drill the heads off of any other caliber, except the 308, then punch the pins out....

Nope I did it on an S-12. Watch the first video and you will see, 10 minutes in...

http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=55704

Edited August 18, 2010 by Rangerguy