Sumsky 115 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Have you guys seen this. Its not the cheesy trigger thingy. http://militarygunsupply.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=58&products_id=1082 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Salmonking 149 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 wow... I kinda want one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Whats the use? If you want to waste ammo just learn to bump fire. Thats what I do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackback 135 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 (edited) Makes me wonder if this will go the Akins Accelerator route. If it is as easy to control the bump fires as the vid looks, my money is that it will. Not to be cynical, but getting controllable bump-fire from a 22LR is one thing as one would think it relatively benign.... but they still recalled/banned it. Getting this in 5.56... well by that logic its days are numbered. Just my .02. Its saving grace may be that it does not have springs to mechanize the act of pulling the trigger. Edited January 11, 2011 by 690gr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrGonZo 157 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Apparently its approved by the BATF... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sumsky 115 Posted January 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 It comes with a copy of an approved letter from ATF. My cousin's friend that owns a Gun Store ordered two to test it out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackback 135 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 (edited) It comes with a copy of an approved letter from ATF. My cousin's friend that owns a Gun Store ordered two to test it out. The Akins Accelerator was approved similarly till the tech branch changed their minds nearly one year later. Check out this article that details this poor inventor's saga. http://www2.tbo.com/content/2007/dec/18/211606/pasco-marksmans-invention-leads-him-ruin/ Edited January 11, 2011 by 690gr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 It comes with a copy of an approved letter from ATF. My cousin's friend that owns a Gun Store ordered two to test it out. The Akins Accelerator was approved similarly till the tech branch changed their minds nearly one year later. Check out this article that details this poor inventor's saga. http://www2.tbo.com/content/2007/dec/18/211606/pasco-marksmans-invention-leads-him-ruin/ That whole saga was/is a whole load of bullshit from the top down. The stock clearly does not turn your 10/22 in to a machine gun as defined by federal law. That being said, I don't have a whole lot of pity for Bill Akins. The first thing that raised my eyebrows was charging an outrageous amount of money for that relatively simple device. Then, a while back, someone posted a letter purportedly written by Mr. Akins, in which he threatened to sue anybody making and selling a similar device, with or without springs. That post was in response to one of our forum members showing off a welded steel sliding buttstock he had produced. If that letter was genuine, Mr. Akins is not the poor inventor - he's the greedy rude guy who got lightly raped by Uncle Batfuck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Actually, I happen to know Bill Akins personally. This is unfortunately patent infringement on his designs. csspecs actually did one of these two years ago, and he and Bill got together on the subject last fall at the last florida shoot. nothing new. he isnt a greedy person at all, actually. a bit outspoken, but definately not a greedy personality. I know his costs on production of his device that the BATF later yanked on him were quite high and he took a personal financial hit on the whole affair. The whole mess turned it into something very personal to him, and that is the source of why he is zealous about his patents and designs. Hell I would be too after all that horse shit that happened to him. right now, he is working on a production crank fire kit that really looks nice, although he is working on a couple of other things related to his other patents currently. other than that, I cant really say much else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkbit 109 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 I have a hard time believing this will not go the same route of as atkins design. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 no, actually, it shouldnt go that route. they already said multiple times that using two hands to make a combined body motion to pull the trigger each time is AOK. now, there are a couple of areas in the country that have problems with bump firing, from what I understand, and call it uncontrolled fire. but thats another ball of wax. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chupa 34 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 If they are charging $320 for it don't you think they could have made it a little more pleasing to the eye. That thing is hideous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Basically, it's the Akins design without the springs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Basically, it's the Akins design without the springs. correct, and Bill's patents are good on the motion without the springs, as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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