90lxtc 0 Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Ordered one from Impact guns with a 24" Barrel Of course it was on back order...With a 12-14 week wait. However from what i understand due to the ATF ruining everything for us law abiding citizens i may be to late? They said there stock trickles in.....we shall see. So do you guys think this is it for them? I plan to use it for Dove and also a slug gun. For this build im liking the idea of a side folder so it will have use for home defense if need be. Of course i want to do the conversion eventually....I have a AK but am new to S12'S.....Share the world with me lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PostsOnPercocet 32 Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 There are plenty of ATF threads on the issue. You might want to search. People around here are pretty fed up talking about the ATF study since the ruling isn't out yet. I suggest you just search out the threads. Or, you can prepare to be flamed. Hard. Just an FYI......oh, and I'm not usually one of those "use the search Nazi's". You just picked a bad topic to not search....lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
90lxtc 0 Posted March 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 figured it was a touchy subject......i have been watching for a while before i registered..didnt see anything but i will search on it.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
90lxtc 0 Posted March 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 where do i search for details? dare i say im having no luck.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EJ45 38 Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 The S12 as well as general discussion have lots of threads on the matter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan 2,343 Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Ordered one from Impact guns with a 24" Barrel Of course it was on back order...With a 12-14 week wait. However from what i understand due to the ATF ruining everything for us law abiding citizens i may be to late? They said there stock trickles in.....we shall see. So do you guys think this is it for them? I plan to use it for Dove and also a slug gun. For this build im liking the idea of a side folder so it will have use for home defense if need be. Of course i want to do the conversion eventually....I have a AK but am new to S12'S.....Share the world with me lol. Enjoy your new Saiga when you get it. And the one after that, and the one after that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
90lxtc 0 Posted March 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Ordered one from Impact guns with a 24" Barrel Of course it was on back order...With a 12-14 week wait. However from what i understand due to the ATF ruining everything for us law abiding citizens i may be to late? They said there stock trickles in.....we shall see. So do you guys think this is it for them? I plan to use it for Dove and also a slug gun. For this build im liking the idea of a side folder so it will have use for home defense if need be. Of course i want to do the conversion eventually....I have a AK but am new to S12'S.....Share the world with me lol. Enjoy your new Saiga when you get it. And the one after that, and the one after that. thanks....id be happy with one. and tickled to death if i get it in time for dove season...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
90lxtc 0 Posted March 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Impact guns raised there prices on the Saiga's...So they sound confident they can still get them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ned Beatty 39 Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Its all bull, the ATF aint gonna do nothing. They don't have the money with budget cuts, and all the flack with gunrunner going down. Besides, people who KNOW have assuured us that its all cool. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
projo198 14 Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 In the meantime you can actually read the report, just google "ATF Stufy on the Importability of Certain Shotguns". I think they published it in January. Might clear some things up for you. Sorry for your wait! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Buy it. Convert it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigcec1 72 Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I found you some assorted ATF threads if you want to read threw some http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/61761-atf-position-on-pistol-grip-shotguns-creates-new-danger/ http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/62491-atf-shotgun-study-here-it-is/ http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/62188-atf-trying-to-ban-saiga-12/ http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/63099-atf-and-pistol-grips/ http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/62179-atf-to-issue-new-ruling-on-monday-regarding-new-restrictions-on-shotgu/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
90lxtc 0 Posted March 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 (edited) Not to start any Drama But i E-mailed Clyde at RAAC early this week to check on the hold up before i placed my order. This is what he had to say....Short and Brief. Importation is limited right now. We are not sure if they will continue to come into the US. Clyde Woods Sales & Marketing RAAC Not trying to turn this into another BATF Debate/Discussion. But based on there Requirements...for a Sporting Shot-gun i don't see anything the Saiga 12 has............ Edited March 16, 2011 by 90lxtc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
90lxtc 0 Posted March 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 So i Got a call from Impact guns today that they were Raising the Price of my Saiga 12 to 689$ from 449. I told them To Stuff it and a Box Stock Saiga 12 is NOT worth 689...and there are Price Gouging...They Should Alteast Honor my Price since my Order had been Placed....I will Now Commence to Slander their name and Cost them as much Business as i can...Besides my Order that is....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bridis 319 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 That's pretty shitty business. Do you have an invoice saying what you paid? If so and there is no verbage stating they have reserved the right to adjust the price, they legally have to honor the "contract" they entered with you. Just sayin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
90lxtc 0 Posted March 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 They Said That since it is a Back ordered item they can change the Price to whatever they want. once the product comes in...... they want in on the saiga Money Wagon. AKA trying to catch up with Gunbroker. There was only 2 People myself and someone else waiting for the 24" Version. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Desolo 55 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 Thats just plain unethical "We know you already PAID and everything, but we want more now, so hand it over..." Good luck man, I hope you can get things made right.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fauxknight 30 Posted March 22, 2011 Report Share Posted March 22, 2011 They Should Alteast Honor my Price since my Order had been Placed. Understandable, but chances are thier distributor marked the price up on them, possibly to the point where they would have taken a loss to sell at the original price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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