IndyArms 10,186 Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 Man... that .50 BMG is a big bitch! Left to right.... .50 BMG .416 Remington Magnum .308 Lazzeroni Warbird .30-06 .25-06 7.62 X 54R 7.62 X 39 .223 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RooK 0 Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 (edited) The 20mm cartridge I have dwarfs it, get one of those. Which would you want? (20mm, .308win, .50bmg) Edited June 18, 2005 by RooK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted June 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Somehow I think the ATF would frown upon me having a 20MM cannon out shooting woodchucks....Or I would..... WHOOOOO SON!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shotgunman 0 Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 very cool nice pic indy!! just wait til friday then boom goes the woodchuck!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stokstad 4 Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Indy you thief stealing that pic of that nice girl next door. Your wife isnt going to like that...... lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
k_dawg 0 Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Ever seen a round from an A-10's Avenger 30mm? It fires something like a 7000grain Depleted Uranium projectile :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted June 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Indy you thief stealing that pic of that nice girl next door. Your wife isnt going to like thatIt wasnt her PIC that I *stole from her* and NO the wife WOULD NOT LIKE THAT! ROFL!!! ( ok, ok.. just kidding...) Ever seen a round from an A-10's Avenger 30mm? It fires something like a 7000grain Depleted Uranium projectile NO!!! I havent... I think you need to get to posting some pics of THAT BABY for us here... no gun *too big* for the Saiga forums!!!! WOOWOO!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
k_dawg 0 Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 I would love to have one! Since it is DU, I am not sure it is legal to own. It was on display at the Dayton Airshow I went to a decade ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 You guys should see a 16" round! I would LOVE to have one of those, but at 2300lb. it is a little hard to carry around! G O B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted June 20, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 If I am not mistaken, the 16" shells from the battleships arent actually cased bullets... they just load a projectile slug into the breech end of the chamber, then ram in the appropriate powder charge...Right??? Hey... I watched UNDER SEIGE.... LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RooK 0 Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 dawg, if it's a DU round, you wouldn't want it anyway. You do know what depleted uranium is right? An old radioactive core from a power plant or something else (nuke too perhaps?) that has lost most of the radioactivity from use to where it is no longer effecient. That means they are still somewhat radioactive and guys in tanks have/do get sick from them. Apparently someone in a twisted stroke of genius said "this is super dense and can penetrate armor, we have it piling up from old reactors so lets use it as a projectile... nevermind that fact it can give you radioactive poisoning or distribute it through the environment." Not my cup of tea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 (edited) Indie- Yes the 16" rounds are loaded first, and 200-300lbs of powder behind! Depending on range. But the armor piercing rounds themselves are almost 7 feet long! 2 of them make a very impressive set of driveway ornaments! G O B (edited for speeel spie spelling!) Edited August 9, 2005 by G O B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted June 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 7 feet?? I bet they do!!! sweet!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted August 9, 2005 Report Share Posted August 9, 2005 http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/attack/a6/gau8-1.jpg 30mm beast that the Avenger spits out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaShooter 0 Posted August 10, 2005 Report Share Posted August 10, 2005 More brass Quote Link to post Share on other sites
okie shooter 0 Posted August 13, 2005 Report Share Posted August 13, 2005 You think two 16"/50cal(16" in dia. and cal x dia gives you the barrel length) are impressive, an igloo full of them they are really impressive, they pallet them two to a pallet and stacked three high. Our american legion in town has a half a dozen or so them marking the parking lot. A few years ago the army scraped truckloads of inert rounds(maybe all of the training rounds). They actually are smaller than a two thousand lb bomb though, more steel and less explosive, the ap's in the inventory now are six feet long, and the high explosive are only five feet-four. The actual bursting charges are small, forty to one forty lbs approx. They actually use more propellant than explosive. The other thing is the explosive they used, yellow d, nasty amoninum based explosive. For big guns there are three types of loadings, fixed, semi fixed and seperate loading. Fixed are like a cartrage, case and projectile are one unit, crimped together, tank rounds and smaller gun rounds are of this type. The 105mm and the family of 5" naval guns(38/54/62) are semi fixed, the powder is in a case but the round is not crimped and the powder is not loose but bagged, it can be adjusted by removing bags within the case, then the round is put together, and loaded as a cartrage. Seperate loading is what it says, you first put in the projectile and then the bags of propellant. 155mm and the larger naval guns are of this type. The largest gun the navy fields in now the 5" and the army is not supporting anything larger than 155 at this time. Sorry if I bored any one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 Things that go BOOM are seldom boring! G O B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crosshair 1 Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 k_dawg Ever seen a round from an A-10's Avenger 30mm? Got to handle a live round of 30mm once at an airshow. This was years ago before 9/11. Damm that thing was heavy. Wish I had pics of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Coastie 0 Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 G O B, you're not an old sea dog are you? Gunners Mate by chance? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Sea dog? You bet! I was an engineman on a diesel sub. USS SeaLeopard SS483 "Built in the shops of the devil, born in the mind of a fiend, filled with acid and crude oil, and christened a SUBMARINE! G O B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
okie shooter 0 Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 The army teaches classes where I work about ammunition, the collection of the ammo the classrooms has is impressive, I needed to see a round from the sixties, from m-60 tanks, and dang if they didnt have one (though demiled) for me to look at. They have almost anything ammo handlers can find in western ammo, and some eastern bloc stuff too. Guess too much of a good thing can be bad, around ammo all day makes is somewhat routine now. The fourth of July aint the same any more. Just too much noise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaigaShooter 0 Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 (edited) .50 BMG / Unknown / .338 Lapua / .300 Weatherby / .30-06 / 8mm Mauser / 7.7 Japnese / .303 British / 6.5 Carcano / 7.62×54R / .308 Win / .243 Win / 6.5 Japanese / .223 Rem / 7.62×39 / 6mmBR / .220 Russian / .30 Carbine Edited September 4, 2005 by SaigaShooter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty 0 Posted September 4, 2005 Report Share Posted September 4, 2005 I could be way off, but that Unknown round (2nd from the left) almost looks like a chopped down and renecked 50BMG. The shoulder is a bit longer than the 50, but the case width and bullet size look almost identical. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted September 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 I will put my money that the "unknown round is INDEED a .50 bmg renecked... it was called a SPOTTER TRACER round... I know you can buy spotter tracer bullets reloaded into standard 50 bmg casings... HOWEVER... The ORIGINAL .50 BMG SPOTTER TRACER looked VERY similar to that one, it was in a SHORTER casing, designed to be used with a howitzer as an aiming tool. They were made differently, so that they could not be mistaken for the original, and the original not used in a spotter tracer application.... Do the google search for "spotter tracer" and you can get all the good juicy info... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
okie shooter 0 Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 The unkown round might be either, 50 Spotter(12.7x76), or 12.7x81 (0.5" Vickers) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shotgun_lobotomy 0 Posted September 18, 2005 Report Share Posted September 18, 2005 50bmg, 300 weatherby, 30.06, 303brit, 25.06, 243, 45.70gov, 30.30, 300savage, .223, 300 whisper, 7.62x39, 50ae, .357mag, .17hmr, 45acp, 40s&w 9mm, 22lr, 22short Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted September 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 300 whisper?? Thats an interesting looking round, I must admit... I have never heard of that one... what was that used for? I assume by the size of the case that its a low power round, made for closer shooting and QUIETER, ( hence the name??) yet still tossing out a goodly sized slug to target? varmint cartridge? short range deer hunting? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty 0 Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 I'll need to look at my reloading books again, but I think the design requirements for the 300 wisper was for a subsonic 30 caliber round (for a suppressed rifle maybe?) If I'm wrong, somebody correct me please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shotgun_lobotomy 0 Posted September 20, 2005 Report Share Posted September 20, 2005 i dont know too much about it but i think its a 221 fireball necked up too 30cal, can be loaded both subsonic and regular, i think it can also be called the .300 fireball Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IndyArms 10,186 Posted September 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 I got an image of the .50 bmg next to a .50 spotter tracer round... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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