TwentyNizzo 66 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
L5K 162 Posted May 9, 2011 Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 Who made it? I have heard of other people breaking their KVAR US made grip nuts, but mine is, so far good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted May 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2011 It's the one that came with my SGL 31-94. Seriously, WTF. I guess everyone is trying to cut costs these days. I need to find me a good USSR era nut. Anyone got one they'd like to send me? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Could just be a bad apple in a lot....dunno. It looks pretty porous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrThunder88 912 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 I like AKs too but never enough to bust a nut over. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 I like AKs too but never enough to bust a nut over. Drum roll & cymbal clash. PG nuts should be made of steel. Just go buy one from CSS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted May 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 I like AKs too but never enough to bust a nut over. Drum roll & cymbal clash. PG nuts should be made of steel. Just go buy one from CSS. You're right I'll just go buy another one....not like an $1127 rifle should have a metal grip nut anyways. Most authentic AK 74M replica my ass. Arsenal USA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 You're right I'll just go buy another one....not like an $1127 rifle should have a metal grip nut anyways. Most authentic AK 74M replica my ass. Arsenal USA I'd be giving them a earful on the phone tomorrow, plus emails and posting that pic on multiple websites. Plastic PG nut? WTF?!?! These ain't no airsoft rifles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 oh....was it actually plastic? or just cheap metal? My first glance at the pic appeared to be just cheap/defective metal work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted May 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 It looks like it's a psuedo metal epoxy type substance (like Quicksteel). It's definitely not metal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 It looks like it's a psuedo metal epoxy type substance (like Quicksteel). It's definitely not metal. Sounds like just a cheap ass replacement. Did you get this from a dealer? a second hand? or brand new shipped from a supplier. If that makes any sense. I have an SGL21 and It came with a very sturdy nut, maybe some one is taking a cheap route or maybe it got replaced along the way, I dunno. Seems like a fluke or something. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dsmtsi23 18 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 It looks like it's a psuedo metal epoxy type substance (like Quicksteel). It's definitely not metal. Sounds like just a cheap ass replacement. Did you get this from a dealer? a second hand? or brand new shipped from a supplier. If that makes any sense. I have an SGL21 and It came with a very sturdy nut, maybe some one is taking a cheap route or maybe it got replaced along the way, I dunno. Seems like a fluke or something. Agree. Where did you get the rifle? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted May 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) It was a brand new arsenal rifle from a dealer. Edited May 10, 2011 by TwentyNizzo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stnls1911 55 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 The Tapco grip nut I have has held up rather nicely. I do agree; that shouldn't happen with an Arsenal rifle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
modrisco 16 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Arsenal SGL21's are meant to be, and are quality builds. Clearly this shouldn't have happened. Arsenal covers manufacturing defects under a limited 1 year warranty. I'd contact them ASAP and have a replacement mailed. I'm sure they'd oblige once they understand the issue, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
midnaite 43 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 the AR pistol grip adaptor should too, I exploded the one mounted on my S12, it didn't like recoil, and maybe I overtorqued it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) Hmmm the pictured broken pg nut looks like it's made of "pot metal". I use K-VAR pg nuts in all my Kalashnikovs, (since they're shaped correctly, unlike the TAPCO part), and I've never had any problems with em after long, hard use. Granted, I bought them awhile back. Perhaps this is a recent change. Edited May 10, 2011 by post-apocalyptic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DutchV 2 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 I'd drop Arsenal a note and give them a shot at making it right. They can afford to mail you a decent nut. I bet they will, too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted May 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 I've already got one on the way. I'm not interested in Arsenal sending me another cheap nut. They'll probably try and charge me $18 to ship it here 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Revolver Ocelot 3 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Hmmm the pictured broken pg nut looks like it's made of "pot metal". I use K-VAR pg nuts in all my Kalashnikovs, (since they're shaped correctly, unlike the TAPCO part), and I've never had any problems with em after long, hard use. Granted, I bought them awhile back. Perhaps this is a recent change. Shaped different? The tapco is just a square that fits in the hole right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 (edited) That looks like a metal injection mold (MIM) part. Its a way of making small precision parts cheaper, they are supposed to be as strong as metal but what kind of metal is the question. If done well the process does fine, even used as extractors on some bolts rifles. Of course if done not so well.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_injection_molding Edited May 11, 2011 by Rhodes1968 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rightwing87 0 Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 I broke mine just like that. The KVAR's are made of cheap pot metal. I replaced mine with a Bulgarian nut from Apex. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted May 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Got my new nut in as well. Tremendous difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stix213 3 Posted May 14, 2011 Report Share Posted May 14, 2011 What happened to these Arsenal rifles being made to mil spec? hmmm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 What happened to these Arsenal rifles being made to mil spec? hmmm Replacing that part is trivial, and the pg nut that K-VAR includes with these has nothing to do with the rest of the rifle.. which is far more mil-spec, (from the factory), than your Cali converted sporter ever will be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted May 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 (edited) trivial except having to enlarge the pg nut hole The question is, you pay $1100+ for a rifle and have to replace parts... Edited May 15, 2011 by TwentyNizzo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 trivial except having to enlarge the pg nut hole The question is, you pay $1100+ for a rifle and have to replace parts... What are you talking about? The pg nut hole is the standard size on my SGL(s).. all I have to do is swap out the pg nut K-VAR supplied with a mil-surp one. As for $1100+.. I paid $505 apiece for mine. ymmv. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted May 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 trivial except having to enlarge the pg nut hole The question is, you pay $1100+ for a rifle and have to replace parts... What are you talking about? The pg nut hole is the standard size on my SGL(s).. all I have to do is swap out the pg nut K-VAR supplied with a mil-surp one. As for $1100+.. I paid $505 apiece for mine. ymmv. Yours didn't come with an AK100 folder. But I will give you that you caught a pretty sick sale The metal nut I got wouldn't fit in the SGL's hole...had to open it up a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shades_of_grey 1,092 Posted May 15, 2011 Report Share Posted May 15, 2011 trivial except having to enlarge the pg nut hole The question is, you pay $1100+ for a rifle and have to replace parts... What are you talking about? The pg nut hole is the standard size on my SGL(s).. all I have to do is swap out the pg nut K-VAR supplied with a mil-surp one. As for $1100+.. I paid $505 apiece for mine. ymmv. Yours didn't come with an AK100 folder. But I will give you that you caught a pretty sick sale Maybe not, but I picked up a couple of these last year: (2 of the stocks, only 1 Russian booster) ~$505 '09 SGL21 + ~$180 AK-100 stock set + ~$179 labor = ~$864 The metal nut I got wouldn't fit in the SGL's hole...had to open it up a bit. Well, I guess either the nut or the hole was slightly out of spec. I can't imagine that you had to take much off the receiver to get a proper fit. As I said, a minor issue, that only some rifles may have, (none of mine do). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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