Jump out of the windows now you bastards

[going12220 125]

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/05/politics/occupy-wall-street/

News was a little slow to pick up on this, who owns the broadcast networks?

Kind of the Arab Spring of America taking place this fall, young people trying to force change to the royalty that has bled America dry. Wonder how long before the finest government that money can buy puts this revolt down. Be kind of cool if we get sanctions from the UN for repressing the protestors in the street. Damn weird planet we’re on here.

[storm6490 2,768]

grrr! i get all emotional about UN soldiers.... knowing that I'll kill every one I see operating on our sovereign soil.

Edited October 5, 2011 by storm6490

[csspecs 1,987]

Unlike previous protests/riots in our history. These kids don't represent stalled factories or a needed labor force.

 

There is ZERO reason for those in power to listen to them.

 

I do agree that the few super rich betting on commodities have really screwed the majority of us. They have made prices and values to volatile for people to feel safe doing business. The markets developed to protect buyers and sellers of needed items such as oil iron ect. Now we have people that are neither buyers or sellers gambling and manipulating the markets to line their pockets. Stock markets don't really effect anyone in their day to day lives unless your investing. But we all feel the sting when oil "does well".

[BpS12 512]

I'll disagree CSS,

 

Everythime a stock goes up, prices for that commodity go up, and so to do ALL the products made from that commodity. However, when the stock goes down, the prices for those products stay high or even climb higher occasionally. That effects us on the ground drasctically. We never really see the effects of the drop because the corporations are keeping the prices high dispite their lower payouts.

 

As for Wall Street, the rich can afford to not care about everyone else, at least until their heads start rolling in the streets.

[antinwo 57]

When the Wall St Banksters got their way and had the Glass Steigel Act repealed, that gave way for them to speculate and gamble with the derivitives in the market. They leveraged the shit so much it became worthless, toxic.... so you and Joe Taxpayer get to foot the bill via the banker bailout, with the majority of it going to their overseas banking buddies. (That debt is not ours, and we should not vote for anyone that says it is or supported the bailout in any way).

 

It is somewhat ironic that the OP mentioned Arab Spring, for that is what is happening now, in as much as the original anti fed/wall street protest has been hijacked by Obama (MoveOn.org) and people the likes of Michael Moore, much like the protests in Egypt were hijacked by black ops to overthrow the Arab government. (Add Libya and soon to be Syria to that list) They don't want us protesting the federal reserve banking system (the original protest point), so now they have the dip shits (who don't know what the real problem is, they just know it is effed up) protesting capitalism instead. That's the problem with sheep, they can't think for themselves and are easily led astray. That's what years of American Idol and Fox news do to your brain.

 

The Federal Reserve and Wall St inside traders, along with Corporate monopolies are looting this country for all its worth, but hey, let's get the dumb shits to protest capitalism instead.

 

End Rant

 

Elect Ron Paul, then reinstate Glass Steigel, Abolish the Fed and let the Government issue its own debt free currency as instructed by the constitution.

 

 

 

Edit: This kids gets it..... there is hope after all

Edited October 5, 2011 by antinwo

[csspecs 1,987]

Well thats true to.

 

Stock markets originally had the concept of being company loans spread among dozens or thousands of people. Your shares where the buy in on a loan that would mature with the company eventually the company would buy the shares back thus repaying the loan.

 

Now it takes so much to be listed or traded that its simply not worth it. Stock markets now are more or less horse racing without horses.

 

 

As for going to a metal based currency, no thanks. Metals are needed for industry supplies are thin enough as it is, I don't need the bankers holding all the copper and silver in their vaults. Money is just the exchange medium of labor into material goods, an exchange tool only. Saving money is historically a bad idea.

 

I'm all for government trimming, but the sad reality is that the first things they cut are needed or useful program rather then making them less bloated (Nasa and the space shuttle is an example of a bloated program that needed to be trimmed rather then cut).

[antinwo 57]

I'm not for gold backed money either. It is all in the hands of the wealthiest 1% now anyway, and it can't expand to meet the needs of a growing economy. We need monetary reform. Money has never actually been a “commodity” or “thing.” It has always been merely a “relation,” a legal agreement, a credit/debit arrangement, an acknowledgment of a debt owed and a promise to repay.

 

The problem with our current system is every dollar brought into circulation (loaned to us by the PRIVATE Federal Reserve Banking system) has a debt of interest attached to it. The money needed to pay the interest is never created, so in the end you will have this huge interest debt that is impossible to ever pay. Plus, when our government spends more than it has, the Fed just prints more money, flooding the market with new currency thus creating an inflationary climate wherein our dollar is worth less.

 

We could go back to the old Lincoln Greenback system, where money is not loaned into circulation, but is spent into circulation AT NO INTEREST to fund the production and repair of public goods everyone can see and benefit from like roads and public buildings, all at a rate pegged by law to the general price level.

 

I'm sorry I got off topic here, I apologize to the OP. Maybe we could continue this in a new thread?

[Blaster 0]

As I understand it, a dollar is a unit of measurment, like a pound or an ounce. It issupposed to be a certain amount of weight in gold or silver coin. A quarter is supposed to be 1/4 of a dollers weight, a dime 1/10 of a dollers weight, a nickel was supposed to be made from a precious metal called nickel and a penny was supposed to be made out of a precious metal called copper. Prior to 1964, this country issued legitimate promisary notes which said:" payable to the bearer of this note, upon demand, the sum of..." and you could go to any federal reserve bank in the country and trade your dollers for gold or silver coin. One doller bill for one g/s coin, 100 doller bill for 100 g/s coins, or 1,000,000 for 1,000,000 g/s coins because each one printed was backed by gold and silver. Since 1964 however, dollars are no longer backed by gold and silver, quarters are no longer made of pure silver ( now made out of copper and nickel, look at the edges, you can see the copper) and nickels and pennies are now made from aluminum (pennies have a copper coating). A dollar bill is not real money, it is a promisary note (promise to pay) that was created for convenience purposes (imagine walking down the street with 500 silver dollars in your pocket). Over time people (with govt. and bankers assistance) have confused bills with real money. This was all done by the banks, which created a privately owned banking system called the Federal Reserve

(which in reality has no more to do with the federal govt. than Federal Express). Both the Federal Reserve and the Internal Revenue Service are completely illegal entities since the 16 Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was never ratified!!!

(Please don't take my word on this, check it out for your selves).

 

The American dollar as of right now is actually worth about 4-5 cents. Numerous countries are talking about changing the worlds Standard Currency from the U.S. dollar to something else. If and when that happens, what we now carry around in our pockets will be a worthless as toilet paper. 2008 was the hi-cup, the vomit is still on the way!!! Anyone not prepared to last 3-6 months plus completely on their own, may not make it. Not trying to be a perveyor of doom and gloom, but trying to give a word to the wise. Better to have it and not need it, (what ever "It" is) than to need it and not have it.

Edited October 5, 2011 by Blaster

[antinwo 57]

I started this thread to keep from hijacking this one and to keep this topic going.

[going12220 125]

http://www.foxnews.c...-across-hudson/

 

now starting to get to the violent part, this is one of those things that won't end well.

 

It would be great if these people press the issue that shits got to change. A corrupt government is spending money it doesn’t have and leaving the bill for the future to deal with. The very rich are being coddled and the very poor given just enough to keep them from rising up. Glad to see some work class stiffs are starting to see they’re the ones that will be footing the bill for all this for the rest of their lives. Only shame is it’s not bigger with more people in more places and they won’t turn the tide on the streets or at the ballot box.

 

what was also interesting is the way the protest does the repeat thing so everyone can hear what's going on, seen it before:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9NJ1ojCl7g

Edited October 6, 2011 by going12220

[antinwo 57]

Warning to Occupy Wall Street! OTPOR (CIA) is Infiltrating Your Ranks

 

 

This protest has been hijacked from a bunch of well meaning people who were just fed up with things, but didn't know what to protest against, by CIA Black Ops types(OPTOR, which later became CANVAS) that started the Arab Spring movement in Egypt and other places such as Serbia and Bahrain. This is only part of the connection that encompasses other groups, such as Moveon.org (White House). The legitimate protests are taken over and perversed into something completely different in order to fulfill the globalists agenda.

[going12220 125]

Unlike most of the Arab governments ours can’t just put snipers on the roof tops so they had to take action to turn the protest ugly so it won’t gain more popular support. Peaceful protests are a public relations nightmare to deal with for the elite. If you can’t just kill it out right take away the appeal.

 

side note: To save the economy, on October 28, 2011, Obama will announce that he is

ordering the Immigration Department to start deporting old people (instead of illegals) in order to lower Social Security and Medical cost.

 

Old people are easier to catch, and will not remember how to get back home.

 

 

 

........see you on the bus.

Edited October 6, 2011 by going12220

[antinwo 57]

Unlike most of the Arab governments ours can’t just put snipers on the roof tops so they had to take action to turn the protest ugly so it won’t gain more popular support. Peaceful protests are a public relations nightmare to deal with for the elite. If you can’t just kill it out right take away the appeal.

 

Would you agree that the movement (anti-wall st, anti-fed, anti-bank) is being redirected by the same institutions that the protesters were protesting?

[going12220 125]

Honestly I don’t know while there could be some force with an agenda at work, but there is also just herd mentality at play with that many people. In some cases I think there are people who are just pissed but don’t know at what entity of the government or private sector is the cause of their frustration/s. They know they’re getting screwed but can’t see who’s over their shoulder doing the pumping.

Edited October 6, 2011 by going12220

[Heath_h49008 442]

Wow...

 

 

Ok... Despite what you may be hearing, these protests were called by "Anonymous" .... NOT George Soros.

 

They were a protest against the corrupt relationship between the banks and the politicians.

 

They have been co-opted by SEIU, Moveon.org and the political left, in the EXACT same way the original Tea Party protests were taken over by idiotic neocons like Palin and Bachmann who never saw an issue with working for the IRS, or supporting John McCain... but who claim to be Constitutionalists now.

 

 

These protests are the EXACT SAME AS THE TEA PARTY. Same issue....

 

... they have just been sold out to the other side. The socialists infiltrated instead of the bible thumpers. That's it.

 

There is no grand conspiracy, these groups aren't that bright. (Bible Thumpers, Socialists, and the Government)

 

It's a good sign, because it means more people are becoming angry about the same corruption the Tea Party formed around 2 years ago. We just need to unite against our common enemy, repo the banks, and the bankers ill-gotten gains, at the same time we fire and prosecute every dirty politician that made it possible.

 

It will be a revolution, but I doubt a bloody one.

[patriot 7,197]

Unlike most of the Arab governments ours can’t just put snipers on the roof tops so they had to take action to turn the protest ugly so it won’t gain more popular support. Peaceful protests are a public relations nightmare to deal with for the elite. If you can’t just kill it out right take away the appeal.

 

Would you agree that the movement (anti-wall st, anti-fed, anti-bank) is being redirected by the same institutions that the protesters were protesting?

 

Swap out the cheap aluminum foil in your hat for the heavier-duty freezer wrap, or aluminum flashing secured with self-tapping screws.

[antinwo 57]

They have been co-opted by SEIU, Moveon.org and the political left, in the EXACT same way the original Tea Party protests were taken over by idiotic neocons like Palin and Bachmann who never saw an issue with working for the IRS, or supporting John McCain... but who claim to be Constitutionalists now.

 

Exactly spot on observation! +1

 

It's a good sign, because it means more people are becoming angry about the same corruption the Tea Party formed around 2 years ago. We just need to unite against our common enemy, repo the banks, and the bankers ill-gotten gains, at the same time we fire and prosecute every dirty politician that made it possible.

 

I also agree with you totally, but unity is the problem here. Most people do not know WHO the enemy is. Their ignorance of that fact allows them to be redirected by the very people they are protesting against. Take this as an example.... they started out protesting Wall St for insider trading and the major banks for stealing our money via the bailout. Both are legitimate claims. Now bring in the co-opters, Michael Moore is just one example, now he has these same people who mean well and are quite sincere in their beliefs protesting capitalism which brings the rest of the country who are watching this on the boob tube news to believing the protesters are a bunch of socialist type kids who want the wealth redistributed and blow the deal off as a bunch of wackos. The divide between the haves and the have nots gets bigger each year, and at some point it will get volatile. As Gerald Celente says, people lose it when they have nothing else to lose. The masses need an education as to who is looting our nation and putting the big dick wrapped up in a flag up their ass every day.

 

Ok... Despite what you may be hearing, these protests were called by "Anonymous" .... NOT George Soros.

 

Who is “Anonymous”? The problem with being anonymous is nobody knows if you’re for real.

Last week the Anonymous released a statement declaring it would cyber attack firms on Wall Street in response to mass arrests and the DHS set off alarm bells.

Now Anonymous – or somebody who claims to be Anonymous – saysthe threat was a fake and they are not responsible.

Imitations? How would we know?

There should be a rule of thumb in such situations: Cui bono, who benefits?

Certainly not the OWS protesters.

 

It is interesting that the supposed threat and the DHS response to it came as many within the movement had said they will now protest against the real culprit behind the curtain — the Federal Reserve.

I’m betting that Anonymous IS the government (pick any 3 letter agency you want), or at least a government impersonation when it fits their agenda. It's a perfect way to bring in mass censorship and control of the internet. The attacks of Anonymous are used to 'prove' the need for MORE GOVERNMENT CONTROL.

 

As for Soros............

 

Big Soros money Linked to OWS

 

"But Soros’ support for the protesters goes far beyond his tepid public statements. In fact, the original call to “Occupy Wall Street” came from the magazine AdBusters, an “anti-consumerist” publication financed by, among other sources, the Soros-funded Tides Foundation".

Edited October 6, 2011 by antinwo

[antinwo 57]

Swap out the cheap aluminum foil in your hat for the heavier-duty freezer wrap, or aluminum flashing secured with self-tapping screws.

 

What's tinfoil about that? It (popular movements being hijacked and redirected) happens every day around the world.

[Dad2142Dad 6,559]

No patriot, one of these

 

[Heath_h49008 442]

Stupid people are led by well funded people with agendas... nothing new.

 

The fact they are targeting the Federal Reserve from BOTH sides is very new.

 

These people are starting to become aware... they need to be educated. We laugh at Palin and Bachmann... we need to get these people to laugh at Soros. The hard part is done, they're moving. Now we just need to help direct them to the right target.

[Heath_h49008 442]

Oh noes!! Dah Jooooooz!!!

 

Bwahahaha....

 

Did they poison the wells in your village as well? Did they eat your baby? Have you seen their horns?

 

I seem to see quite a few very non-jewish names listed as billionares in charge of the Federal Reserve (Herman Cain sure doesn't look like a Red Sea Pedestrian) and the other major banks that purchased the non-jewish politicians and have milked the taxpayers of the western world dry in an effective tag-team. It's not complex, someone told the voters and politicians "Want a free lunch?" and everyone in our grandparents/parents generation said "Sounds great!"

 

Now the bill is coming due, and people are learning TANSTAAFL...

Edited October 7, 2011 by Heath_h49008

[going12220 125]

Seems like every event or movement created by people has to have scapegoats and conspiracy theories. While rarely if ever proven to be the cause there is always some entity, person, or group thrown under the bus personally I just stick with the devil for a blame game.

Edited October 7, 2011 by going12220

[DrThunder88 912]

I too am cynical about the invocation of the boogeymensch here. Reducing the causes of ills like socialism to being a "Jewish agenda" item is as fallacious as mischaracterizing the movement toward secular government as being toward secular society.

[D.C.MORRISON 494]

the snakes have and for now, need their front-men, pets, hangers on, useful idiots, the mask slips sometimes. once full control is achieved the mask comes off. and the gloves as well. then the useful idiots , traitors to their own people and country will be the first ones liquidated.

as to these protests , they will be heavily infiltrated. redirected, and as always violently put down.

 

 

"Now we just need to help direct them to the right target." indeed. the enemies of all mankind.

[antinwo 57]

Damn good read from Webster Tarpley

 

 

Occupy Wall Street: Who Wants to Hijack the Movement?

[fauxknight 30]

... they have just been sold out to the other side. The socialists infiltrated instead of the bible thumpers. That's it.

 

The protest has turned pretty silly, they're demands are absolutely rediculous, and most of them don't even make sense with where they are protesting. Take your protest to the whitehouse if you want socialism, wallstreet has nothing to do with that.

[patriot 7,197]

No patriot, one of these

 

 

 

That would look killer while riding a motorcycle!

[Heath_h49008 442]

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-october-5-2011/parks-and-demonstration