lelandeod 179 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Now that Legion is selling the factory 8's, I'm thinking of converting all my S-12's to run the factory 8 round magwell mags. To me, the achilles heel of the S-12 has always been the mishmash of mag interchangeability. Right now, I've got a 030 that takes the magwell mags... a IZ-109 with a Surefire magwell and a Tromix S-17 that takes rock and lock mags. I'm tired of investing in no less than three types of mags for the shotties and dream of them all running the same type of mags. Aside from RusMilitary (who is out) does anyone know of another source for these bad boys? Also, for anyone who has bought one from Oleg (or anyone else for that matter) do the magwells come with the front and rear pins/mounting hardware? Lee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fritzthemoose 3 Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Now that Legion is selling the factory 8's, I'm thinking of converting all my S-12's to run the factory 8 round magwell mags. To me, the achilles heel of the S-12 has always been the mishmash of mag interchangeability. Right now, I've got a 030 that takes the magwell mags... a IZ-109 with a Surefire magwell and a Tromix S-17 that takes rock and lock mags. I'm tired of investing in no less than three types of mags for the shotties and dream of them all running the same type of mags. Aside from RusMilitary (who is out) does anyone know of another source for these bad boys? Also, for anyone who has bought one from Oleg (or anyone else for that matter) do the magwells come with the front and rear pins/mounting hardware? Lee Rusmilitary will get some new ones soon you can pre order them on the page Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lelandeod 179 Posted April 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 I wrote Oleg to see if he is accepting preorders. Haven't heard back. The real kicker will be whether or not they come with the front and rear mounting hardware. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 The magwell from Oleg comes with everything needed to install it. I know, I put one on my IZ109 last year. Getting the mag latch pin in was a complete bitch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 The magwell from Oleg comes with everything needed to install it. I know, I put one on my IZ109 last year. Getting the mag latch pin in was a complete bitch. Yes, the latch pin is a big pain. I ended up using a Q-tip to keep the latch lined up and pushed the pin in behind it. The pin pushed the Q-tip out while lining itself to the holes. It worked great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramlake 98 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) I've bought them from russmil with and without Not really hard at all to fab the parts Use a cutoff drill as a pin, assemble the latch with short pin then loosely install the magwell, then insert a magazine and have someone watching on the opposite site help to align and drive in the longer pin. Slightly rounding and polishing the pin will help the pin from shearing and damaging the magwell pin holes Edited April 9, 2012 by RamLake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lelandeod 179 Posted April 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 I went ahead and pre-ordered two from Oleg. They better come with hardware! The rear pin is not hard to replicate, but the front "T-bolt" is not something I can just pick up at Ace Hardware. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramlake 98 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 I went ahead and pre-ordered two from Oleg. They better come with hardware! The rear pin is not hard to replicate, but the front "T-bolt" is not something I can just pick up at Ace Hardware. I can give you one if it does'nt....no worries 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyNizzo 66 Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 To install the rear pin, I cut down and re-used the factory 109 mag latch pin to hold the magwell in place Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lelandeod 179 Posted April 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I went ahead and pre-ordered two from Oleg. They better come with hardware! The rear pin is not hard to replicate, but the front "T-bolt" is not something I can just pick up at Ace Hardware. I can give you one if it does'nt....no worries Thanks, Ray. That helps me breathe easier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 damn you guys Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lelandeod 179 Posted April 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 damn you guys Lol, Go big or go home, right? Oleg wrote me back and said that only the first batch of mag wells lacked the hardware. So, now I wait. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beefcakeb99 572 Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 i hate you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ufo 20 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Try this one: http://www.planet-of-gun.de/ And all you need is in package. But you use your own screw and nut(IMHO as i did). When you will see nut you will know why. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Does anyone know if the MOLOT magwell flare in this link will fit the Russian magwell? http://www.planet-of-gun.de/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 That site has some interesting muzzle compensators. Never seen one quite like it. This one seems to be a comp+choke combo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ufo 20 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Does anyone know if the MOLOT magwell flare in this link will fit the Russian magwell? http://www.planet-of-gun.de/ It's the same. That site has some interesting muzzle compensators. Never seen one quite like it. This one seems to be a comp+choke combo. Yes MuzzleBrake from Maxrounds and Polychoke i think. But don't think that is so good as original one. Because it was designed without choke for proper function. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 Does anyone know if the MOLOT magwell flare in this link will fit the Russian magwell? http://www.planet-of-gun.de/ It's the same. That site has some interesting muzzle compensators. Never seen one quite like it. This one seems to be a comp+choke combo. Yes MuzzleBrake from Maxrounds and Polychoke i think. But don't think that is so good as original one. Because it was designed without choke for proper function. I've seen MOLOT magwells that look like aluminum. My Russian magwell is plastic and I don't know if the MOLOT magwell flare extention will fit. It may not be the same. Does anyone know for SURE? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 I think Schultze has had several of both. PM him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ufo 20 Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 @ARMOR: different material and outer dimensions only. There is only ONE type of original magazines for Molot Vepr... ;-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ufo 20 Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 BTW if you get magwell you have to modify frame. And it doesn't matter if you drill one or two holes etc.(depending on type of magwell). You will cut the frame anyway. If you use original russian magwell you can use original mags for Molot Vepr or Saiga Police. Maybe little fitting will be required(outer shape and dimensions). But it depends. IF you want to use US made mags? You can but you will HAVE to fit them. Maybe i can make some pics SGM 10rds mag vs Molot mag if needed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 I have my gun modded and magwell installed already. http://gunsandall.com/showthread.php?tid=388&pid=2001#pid2001 I just seen the MOLOT magwell flare and wanted to give it a try, but didn't want to order a part that wouldn't work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ufo 20 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 OK, second run. + = Original magwells both. Designed for these magazines: Both magwells are for original magazines. First is made from plastic. Second one is from aluminium( IMHO ) with integrated expansion. If you use SGM magwell buy that expansion only... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted June 2, 2012 Report Share Posted June 2, 2012 Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ufo 20 Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 You're welcome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ufo 20 Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Here we go folks. I made several pictures when i got it from Dirk for a while - new original russian magwell. I hope it helps. ;-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 I like that flared magwell. Looks really nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pedal2alloy 206 Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 The flare is cool, but I think the earlier plastic one is better the way it wraps up the sides of the receiver a little bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HART1 92 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 The flare is cool, but I think the earlier plastic one is better the way it wraps up the sides of the receiver a little bit. I agree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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