20nickels 21 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Thinking about putting a push button single point in this position. 3/8" hole right in the side of the rec. Right now it's just sitting in place mocked up. What do you think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
renegade331 31 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Go for it! Measure twice cut once Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anathoth 4 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Have you taken a look at the products offered by Echo93? They manufacture sling mount plates that are installed between the pistol grip and receiver, so no permanent alteration to the gun is required. Basically results in a steel loop for use with mash hooks, HK hooks, etc. Though the high hand position with a US Palm grip (I have one myself) makes choices of the E93 products more limited. The style of buttstock can influence workable options as well. I'm trying out a V3 at present; haven't decided if I like it yet. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Those Echo93 mounts are very solid, high quality. Seems like a better idea than cutting into the receiver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BOB A. BOOEY 45 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Thinking about putting a push button single point in this position. 3/8" hole right in the side of the rec. Right now it's just sitting in place mocked up. What do you think? Ive found that the S12 is just too damn heavy for a single pointer. I dont use a sling at all for that reason. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
20nickels 21 Posted May 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I have looked at the Echo93 mounts. Good point about the US Palm grip not jiving with them, hadn't thought of that and I love my grip. +1 for the push button. I can't imagine it wouldn't work but I want to be 100% sure and exhaust my options before I put a gaping hole in the S12. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Well, if you drill your hole in the right spot, and you ever decide to go underfolder later, one hole is already centered... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anathoth 4 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 The V3 can work with the US Palm; it depends largely on your individual grip style/thumb position. Looking at pics of the V2 got me thinking about it, originally. Most rifles I found pictured with it had the traditional AK grips, which don't position your hand as close to the receiver, but the design of the V2 and other versions of their mounts made me suspect that the knuckle of one's thumb might rub on it when using the US Palm. There were a few user pics I found around online with rifles using the US Palm and the V2, which confirmed my suspicion, and I didn't want the rear-facing mount of the V1, so V3 it was. It's quite sturdy, and works nicely for its intended purpose. However, I'm not sure the thumb thing won't still be somewhat of an issue after long shooting sessions. We'll see. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sneaky 2 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Sounds cool but id be worried about the weight of the gun and it elongating the hole or ripping out, assing up the reciver. Maybe i just over engineer stuff idk. Would be neat tho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 These receivers aren't made of tin foil... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anathoth 4 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Something like these may be of use to you as well, if you go the receiver hole route- IWC QD sling mount Noveske QD sling mount Quote Link to post Share on other sites
20nickels 21 Posted May 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 These receivers aren't made of tin foil... I measured the depth of a aluminum DPH stock sling swivel hole and the steel S12 rec. thickness and they were very close. The rec being slightly thicker in fact. These were hard to measure with a calipers but looks all good. Only thing that bothers me is eventually it could waller out the hole I'll need to drill in the plastic stock stub which I could then epoxy a piece of 3/8" ID metal tubing. May just do that right off for support to keep it tight. I've tried to keep my gun light weight but it's still a bit of a beastie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 A wide washer would distribute the pulling forces out enough to keep the hole from cracking but the only way a hole would get wollared out would be by friction, since I'm assuming that you're going to actually tighten the fastener that holds the sling point, I wouldn't worry about that... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
layback1962 16 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 Position is ok if you do not use a slide on QR sight mount. It would be in the way if you did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theturtlepond 31 Posted May 16, 2012 Report Share Posted May 16, 2012 My S12 is way to long for a single point sling. I believe they are best suited for carbines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
20nickels 21 Posted May 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Took the plunge. Turned out really nice, not like some of my projects hehe. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
20nickels 21 Posted May 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 It's pretty solid. I'll put the fancy Magpul sling on tonite. It's one of those that goes from single point to 2 or 3 point. Drill pilot hole and then 3/8" hole being careful not to ream the hole out any bigger than needed. I would do it with your stock in place paying attention to yer depth. I did it with the stock out, PITA. Then take the stock out and ream it larger to account for the ball detents that hold the mount in place. Additionally the rec was just a hair thick so you will have to take some material off. I opted to do this on the internal side with a dremel tool. I stuck the dremel chuck trough the hole then I chucked up a grinding bit and ground with the bottom side of the stone. Hope that made sense. Better idea. Pilot hole w/ stock in place. Remove stock. 3/8" hole in rec. Then hole in stock while it's out, 7/16 to 1/2" ought to do it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anathoth 4 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Looks good. Let us know how it works out for you long term. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
20nickels 21 Posted May 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2012 Looks good. Let us know how it works out for you long term. Tks. I've carried it around a bit. It's solid. I have zero indication that it will fail. Cold blued the hole last night. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted May 26, 2012 Report Share Posted May 26, 2012 Position is ok if you do not use a slide on QR sight mount. It would be in the way if you did. IT is a push button release. He can pop off the sling stud, slide on the scope and put the sling back. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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