BlackBird97 1 Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 The last part I need for my conversion is a good stock, and I've been toying with the idea of one of the bonesteel folder options. I am just wondering how functional are shot guns with the folding stocks? They look like they would be hard to shoot/operate. What are your experiences with folders? Is just a cool factor, or do they actually serve a practical purpose? Just wondering, becuase I know I can save some cash going with a KVAR Warsaw legnth or a CSS M4 reciever extension. Thanks much for your help! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FOURBUX 22 Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 There are many good stocks out there. The bonesteel folder is new on the market, but seems to be a great alternative for those who want a folding stock without having to cut off the rear tang. As far as functionality goes, they are sturdy enough to do the job and come with the added benefit of being able to fire the S-12 with the stock folded (especially if it folds to the left of the receiver). Really, your stock choice comes down to what you want your S-12 to be. Some people want it to be as light and compact as possible, while others prefer bigger, sturdier guns with more features. I personally have the recoil-reducing Mako SBT K47 stock tube on mine and a Mako M4 stock, and it makes all the difference in regards to recoil. A 200 round day at the range leaves my arm with a slight mark for a few hours as opposed to an outright bruise for days. I personally do not like the options that require removing the rear tang, so I'm stuck with options that are installable on an AK (perfectly okay with me). Consider all of your options carefully and choose your stock based on what you want your gun to be, and you will enjoy the platform that much more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) KVar WARSAW or save up for one of these.... I'd happily use the WARSAW over anything other than an AK100. I have many of both. They feel like home to me. Edited June 12, 2012 by evlblkwpnz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedChallenger 149 Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 They are great.on SG's. I have the Bonesteel, quick, easy bolt on. Folders are for transporting and storage, IMHO. Shooting folded = spraying & praying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlackBird97 1 Posted June 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 They are great.on SG's. I have the Bonesteel, quick, easy bolt on. Folders are for transporting and storage, IMHO. Shooting folded = spraying & praying. Thanks for the replie, do you have pics of your rig? I've tried doing some searching, and like fourbux said, it's still pretty new and I can't find too much on it. There are many good stocks out there. The bonesteel folder is new on the market, but seems to be a great alternative for those who want a folding stock without having to cut off the rear tang. As far as functionality goes, they are sturdy enough to do the job and come with the added benefit of being able to fire the S-12 with the stock folded (especially if it folds to the left of the receiver). Really, your stock choice comes down to what you want your S-12 to be. Some people want it to be as light and compact as possible, while others prefer bigger, sturdier guns with more features. I personally have the recoil-reducing Mako SBT K47 stock tube on mine and a Mako M4 stock, and it makes all the difference in regards to recoil. A 200 round day at the range leaves my arm with a slight mark for a few hours as opposed to an outright bruise for days. I personally do not like the options that require removing the rear tang, so I'm stuck with options that are installable on an AK (perfectly okay with me). Consider all of your options carefully and choose your stock based on what you want your gun to be, and you will enjoy the platform that much more. Thank's for your quick replie,you've given me alot to think about. Now I am starting to wonder what type of recoil pads or options would be available for certain types of stocks. Mainly, the KVAR Warsaw style, I know there is the traditional grenade pad, but is there anything else out there that would go over it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedChallenger 149 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) Edited June 13, 2012 by RedChallenger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ufo 20 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 (edited) S12k and modified ACE Edited June 14, 2012 by ufo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonaldDuck 9 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 What are your experiences with folders? Is just a cool factor, or do they actually serve a practical purpose? Just wondering, becuase I know I can save some cash going with a KVAR Warsaw legnth or a CSS M4 reciever extension. Thanks much for your help! My personal favorite is the Tromix with 1" limbsaver, and PUSH BUTTON folder. Practicality is up to your possible uses.... If there's any possible situation that can run through your mind where you may think it would be beneficial to conceal a shotgun, such as under a long coat or in a duffle bag, a folder would be advantageous. That pushbutton is very easy to operate and I find it a better design than the standard. I have found the Tromix with 1" limbsaver to be infinitely more comfortable than a standard Warsaw. Now if you're feeling rich and want to be the cool kid on the block, I'd say get an SVD folder from Rusmilitary. They do however cost more than a new S-12. On rifles, a fixed stock will be more accurate. That stated, your scatter-gun is not your rifle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dustindu4 101 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 I have the DPH stock with non-push button folder and 1" ace pad. I shot 200 rounds last weekend and felt absolutely nothing. A forward grip helps with recoil too. The DPH and pad is half the price of the tromix and limbsaver. If I were to do it again I would have gotten the pushbutton folder I think. It's a lot easier to fold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socom688 217 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 I put on my Tantal sidefolder with a buttpad, and I like it. I will post up pics later Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 I'm staying away from the poly stocks like the Tromix, mine broke when the weapon fell four feet into mud... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlackBird97 1 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Lots of very informative replies! Has anybody tried one of the Polish folding stocks? It seems nice because it would be a factory option and I wouldn't have to cut my tang. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socom688 217 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) Here is looks like my Krebs Custom safety is stuck with the stock folded, but it isn't. Even with the stock being wrapped in paracord, the safety barely clears, but it clears and I can still manipulate it with my index/trigger finger. Here it looks like the bolt is touching the pad, it isn't. It barely clears, but hell even if it did, it would be so minor it may just barely take a little off the recoil pad. Sorry for the crappy quality, but its from my iPhone. All in all, definitely an upgrade. The polish stock is rock solid, zero flexing, and zero wiggling around. If I didn't have the recoil pad on it, the safety wouldn't be able to be engaged or disengaged with my index finger because the pad, when the stock is folded, keeps it about a 1/4 - 1/2 inch further off of the gun, but I think the pad looks like it belongs on the gun. Edited June 15, 2012 by socom688 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlackBird97 1 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) That Tantal stock looks pretty nice, the one I was thinking of was the Beryl Style. It looks very simular to the ACE stock. Edited June 15, 2012 by BlackBird97 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socom688 217 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 From what I know, it seems the Beryl wouldn't allow for manipulating the Krebs Safety I have, that's why I went with the wire. IMO being able to do everything the same with the stock folded is what's important. Even with a stock safety lever, youd have to move the stock out of the way before manipulating it. That's why I bought the wire, though I will say the Beryl is better looking by far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ramlake 98 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Hard to beat the factory stocks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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