generalpetres 4 Posted June 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 it was an auction, starting price was 620 buying price was 625 and hes installing a bullet button im sending him for free. gunbroker isnt bad to deal with just need to look harder since im from cali and a lot of people don't want to have to deal with calis antiquated gun laws. this will be more of a fun shotgun to take out plinking. This will be my 4th 12ga shotgun, i have an ithica o/u, remington 870, and an old sears and roebuck break action. as for the stock im still undecided. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
breid1970 327 Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Good luck with it bubba. I might look into getting one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerry52 893 Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 good luck buddy and let us know how the full bodycavity search goes for your ammo background check. Ha Ha Ha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 Hey....be careful how hard you poke me with that godamn finger, it just might go right through my skin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
breid1970 327 Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 Now in stock... Skin thickening Gel. Guaranteed to help thicken up any thin patches. Also helps testicles to drop should they be hung up. Im here for you bro. I also have a few cans of EMO B-Gone as well. It keeps those emotional types from getting under ones skin. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 Got any abrasive asshole balm? Or ran out a long time ago? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
breid1970 327 Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 I think I can dig some up for you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
generalpetres 4 Posted July 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 well my ffl got my shotgun on the 28th now im just waiting the 10 days before i can go back and pick it up. got most all the stuff i need for the conversion, just need some small wants to make it more comfortable to shoot. hogue pistol grip carolina SS trigger guard kvar polymer stock warsaw tapco g2 (im going to grind it down to make it work) trigger retainter plate 10 round sgm mag sgm modified threaded choke tac47 autoplug and a tromix side charging handel i still need to pick up a mercury tube for the stock and a limbsaver pad to add length 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerry52 893 Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Just take it slow and do it perfect, you will be glad you did Good Luck and have fun . If you have problems this is the place for the answers a lot of great builders here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
generalpetres 4 Posted July 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 its not gonna be hard converting it, its ust gonna be a walk in the park lol. its far less involved than building an ak receiver from a flat into a working rifle which ive done three times already lol. still trying to decide if i want to take it to the shooting range first before i convert it or now. who makes a good recoil pad for an ak stock? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
generalpetres 4 Posted July 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 picked my saiga 12 up today as well has finished my ar15 build so all in all it was a good day. ive already installed the knurled charging handle, my sgm tactical modified choke and the tac47 autoplug. the auto plug was the hardest to install, ended up using a punch to help turn the plug asa it was extremely hard to turn it by hnd but i managed to get it installed i think tomorrow ill start converting it. there are 4 gas ports on my saiga, did any one have problems with 4 gas ports ever not feeding win bulk pack from wally world? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 The answer to your question is "yes". Plenty of people have. It isn't just number of ports, it is size of ports and whether they are blocked. Most guns will run well with 3 dram ammo and up provided they have 4 unobstructed ports at least .078" to a max of 4 @ .093. I suggest you test it for function with the stock plug and Walmart federal 1200 FPS 1 1/8 oz of shot before attempting to tune the autoplug. Please see the 'reliability' link in my signature for an explanation of procedure. This is perhaps the most common question and it has been answered many times before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerry52 893 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 A Must! shoot it first Quote Link to post Share on other sites
generalpetres 4 Posted July 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) i ended up converting it last night, biggest pita was sanding down the kvar stock to fit the shotgun with out needing to force it in as well as removing a chunk of plastic from the bottom front in the middle to allow for the rear screw on the carolina SS triggerguard. still have acouple small things to do, modify the bho to allow easier dissassimbly . also going to sand the finish off around the left over holes and weld close the holes and paint them over with alumahyde 2 from brownells. gunfun ill do your recommendations before i start with the auto plug. hopefully everything goes well and my saiga likes win bulk as i just bought 300+ rounds of it. heres a pic of the saiga so far and my ar15 i just finished. Edited July 9, 2013 by generalpetres Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bayoupiper 738 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 saiga 12, this isn't my first firearm based on the ak platform. i have built an romy g ak47, bulgy ak74, and an psl. just glad i was able to get it for 655 shipped considering every where i looked people were trying to sell used ones for over 1k. 655? Thought you said 625.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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generalpetres 4 Posted July 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 625 plus 30 shipping Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerry52 893 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Coming Along! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
generalpetres 4 Posted July 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 got the stock drilled and mounted and test fit everything to make sure its working good. might need to remove a little more metal on the bho but i got everything in and working, trigger and safety are working perfectly. going to take it apart and weld up the 5 holes that i dont need and then paint it with some alumahyde. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted July 10, 2013 Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Slick up the rails with some fine sandpaper and don't paint them. Make sure to tape off everything before you weld. You don't want to be picking dingle berries out from under the rails and trying to get that smooth. Or inside the barrel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
generalpetres 4 Posted July 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2013 Slick up the rails with some fine sandpaper and don't paint them. Make sure to tape off everything before you weld. You don't want to be picking dingle berries out from under the rails and trying to get that smooth. Or inside the barrel. wont be any slag, going to be using some pennies as backing plates so the inside is nice and smooth then going to sand the outside down flush then paint it. still trying to decide how im going to install a recoil pad to that plastic stock since the innards are mostly hollow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 Didn't I send you a link to AZG's stock thread? It shows how to add material to the inside of a poly stock so that you can modify it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
generalpetres 4 Posted July 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 you sent me one with the wood and the mercury tube. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted July 11, 2013 Report Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) Whoops.nothing to see here sorry. Edited July 11, 2013 by Guest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 you sent me one with the wood and the mercury tube. I am pretty sure I at least put a link to AZG's thread at the end of that. His starts with wood, but a couple guys do some plastic stuff there too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
generalpetres 4 Posted July 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 ill check it out, i think im going to go with the dual action purpose pad DA-302-10-M: 1-7/8" x 5-1/4" x 1-1/8" - DA layer 1/4". the measurements for the back of the kvar stock are 1-3/8" wide*4"tall. so that pad should fit it ok, it will just need a bit trimmed down. its also not to far off on the screw holes the pad is 3.125" spacing while center to center on the buttstock is 3.25" so it only needs to get moved outward 1/4" and the stock i will trim down 1/4 of an inch to make it flush. hopefully it goes well and i dont f it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted July 12, 2013 Report Share Posted July 12, 2013 Course belt sander or a metal cutting grinding wheel seemed to be the smoothest way to remove material. Make sure to use the freezer trick often. It makes a huge difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
generalpetres 4 Posted July 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 holes are welded closed anad ground smooth now just waiting for my brownells order to get here on thursday. might take it to the range to test it with my win bulk to make sure it cycles. the gas plug should be set at 2 for low power loads correct? so say it doesnt cycle what drill size interval i should go with till i get it to work right? i would prefer it to work with the win bulk as i cant find federal bulk to often. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted July 14, 2013 Report Share Posted July 14, 2013 #2 by the detente pin is the lower power setting. However, all ammo that will cycle reliably on #1 should be run on #1. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
generalpetres 4 Posted July 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) welded up the extra holes in the receiver from the conversion and painted the receiver with alumahyde 2 flat black. sanded the stock flat in the back and drilled the area where the cleaning kit would go larger to fit the 7/8x5" mercury tube. didnt have a 7/8 drill bit but did have an 29/32 drill bit which is only 1/32 larger. also used the top hole for the recoil pad and drilled a new hole for the lower hole for the recoil pad. epoxied the old screw hole and added some epoxy to the bottom to help strengthen the stock as i removed some plastic ribs that gave the stock strength. all in all you dont really need any epoxy to add a recoil pad to a polymer kvar stock. wrapped some electrical tape around the mercury tube so it would be a tight fit in the stock which is is now. then i epoxyed a 3/4" nylon spacer on the back of the tube and sanded it flush with the back of the stock so when the recoil pad is installed it will not move anywhere. heres what the stock looks like with the recoil pad attached. the recoil pad is a Kick-EEZ Dual Action Medium Pad DA-302-10-M. I still have to sand the pad down to match the dimensions of the stock but all in all this was a very easy mod to do. the longest process on this will be sanding down the recoil pad. only other mod i needed to do to the stock was notch out the center part of the stock that sits in the saiga 12 to allow for the carolina shooter supply trigger guard. Edited July 22, 2013 by generalpetres 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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