Mr.BlahX3 12 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) Heres the first place ive seen one for sale. Looks interesting. And familiar. http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/natmil-tk-uzkon-br-99-semi-auto-shotgun-detail.html?Itemid=0 Edited August 28, 2013 by Mr.BlahX3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowFire 220 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 It does look interesting. Maybe somebody is starting to get the memo about certain concerns and issues with the platform. They've got my attention, lets see what these babies are made of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anubis 38 Posted August 28, 2013 Report Share Posted August 28, 2013 Talked about this gun in another thread. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/90013-this-is-interesting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) looks like a MKA with a different butt stock and fore guard. Looks like a better design to me, and its less expensive as well. Edited August 29, 2013 by SHOTGUN MESIAH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joebanda1213 59 Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Barrel Not chrome lined? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowFire 220 Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) It doesn't have to be in order to be rust/corrosion resistant. It just has to go through the right process. Glock barrels aren't chrome lined and are very rust/corrosion resistant. Edited August 29, 2013 by ShadowFire Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gose 17 Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Better and cheaper usually dont go hand in hand and its not like the MKA is very expensive either. I'll wait for the reviews to come in Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atlantic Firearms.com 170 Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 The barrel is chrome lined on the BR 99 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AR-12 Shotgun 16 Posted August 29, 2013 Report Share Posted August 29, 2013 Anubis, did you do any testing before dissecting the ones you got? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anubis 38 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 We only shot about 4 cases through one of them, so 1000 rounds or so. But getting all our dimensions and tolerances was the priority. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AR-12 Shotgun 16 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Share Posted August 30, 2013 We only shot about 4 cases through one of them, so 1000 rounds or so. But getting all our dimensions and tolerances was the priority. So what are your thoughts? If someone were choosing between the two, what would you tell them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turbobuick 3 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) I've got one coming, won't see it for approx, a week, once I get it I'll give everyone feedback, then I'll head out to the range w/my pre-existing 10 round clips from my MKA 1919 and run low brass and high power tests. Edited August 31, 2013 by turbobuick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) Atlantic Firearms, is the fore- guard material more heavy duty than the flimsy MKA fore-guard or is it the same. From the pictures it looks like it is better quality and a bit thicker than the MKA crap. Edited August 31, 2013 by SHOTGUN MESIAH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anubis 38 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Here's the basic rundown on the BR-99. The bolt and the carrier are more or less interchangeable with non-XN MKA parts. The gas system itself, in respect to the gas bypass, is different and improved over the MKA. The upper and lower receivers are not interchangeable with MKA parts, but are of similar design. The factory handguard is one piece, and has a pic rail front to rear. It interfaces directly to the front of the upper receiver without the use of a steel cup like the MKA, and is retained at the front with an almost identical retaining nut. The lower receiver has a number of internal differences from the MKA. Most significantly, the feed ramp is a separate piece that can articulate out of the way for removal of the bolt and bolt carrier without splitting the upper from the lower. The lower itself does not lend itself to cutting for adapters, although it weighs .4 lbs more than an MKA lower, it has much less structure at the base of the buttstock. The buttstock itself is on bore center, and stays square to boreline, unlike the MKA which has a downward slope. The buttpad snaps into the buttstock and is retained by a single screw at the bottom, making disassembly easier. The buttstock also features a built-in cheek piece, and the pistol grip features have been moved rearward approximately .6 inches. The bottom of the pistol grip is plugged, instead of an open hollow like the MKA. The raised surfaces on the side of the receiver in front of and behind the roll pin in the bolt lock are an improvement, making it much less likely for the factory retaining pin to walk out. The width of the BR-99 receiver is increased slightly over the MKA. All the internal cavities, including the magazine well, are crisp, clean, smooth surfaces, unlike the MKA lower. The sight assemblies are still made of plastic, but are much more rigid than the MKA sights. The front sight attaches to the pic rail of the handguard. The rear sight features vastly improved elevation and windage adjustments, and has four different apetures. The samples we have evaulated had good quality control and tight tolerances, but as with all imported guns from this section of the world, quality control at any time could become an issue. The factory magazines are interchangeable with MKA magazines. However, in the samples we received, the metallurgy seems to be substantially improved over the MKA magazines. All in all, as an out of the box gun, the samples we have performed well, shot a fairly wide variety of ammunition, but are still finicky when it comes to low quality shot shells, and low power, low velocity ammunition can still cause similar issues found in the MKA. Both guns have some pros and cons, but both are viable firearms in factory or modified configurations. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.BlahX3 12 Posted September 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Thank you Anubis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowFire 220 Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 I've got one coming, won't see it for approx, a week, once I get it I'll give everyone feedback, then I'll head out to the range w/my pre-existing 10 round clips from my MKA 1919 and run low brass and high power tests. *smack* *points finger* Mag, mags, magazine or magazines, not clips... Clip refers to a stripper clip. lol Also, Anubis, you said it doesn't lend it's self to cutting for stock adapters. So how do we do it anyway. lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 haha at least he didnt spell anytihng wrong while he was talking about "clips" off setting penalties! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowFire 220 Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 haha at least he didnt spell anytihng wrong while he was talking about "clips" off setting penalties! What did I spell wrong? Well anyway I was being light hearted about it. Even trained military still use the term improperly, so you might as well joke about it right? But seriously, how do we put a collapsible stock on this baby anyway? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 naw man im saying you didnt spell anything wrong, while saying clips... if you had spelt something wrong and said clips it woulda been more grievous a mistake... so good on you. stupid media talking about colorado recall elections today say "amunition clips" like that somehow makes clips more correct... face palm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anubis 38 Posted September 11, 2013 Report Share Posted September 11, 2013 We have a buttstock adapter now, but the stock MUST be cut to OUR specs. Failure to comply will result in a broken non replacable reciever It looks and works very well, we will put it into production soon. Jim 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowFire 220 Posted September 12, 2013 Report Share Posted September 12, 2013 We have a buttstock adapter now, but the stock MUST be cut to OUR specs. Failure to comply will result in a broken non replacable reciever It looks and works very well, we will put it into production soon. Jim Awesome. List the specs when it comes sales time (In the package I mean.). A blueprint would be great, seeing as how I am a machinist student. Tolerances noted would be VERY welcomed. naw man im saying you didnt spell anything wrong, while saying clips... if you had spelt something wrong and said clips it woulda been more grievous a mistake... so good on you. stupid media talking about colorado recall elections today say "amunition clips" like that somehow makes clips more correct... face palm Oh, ok. I ask because I do try to make an attempt to spell things properly so yeah I'd have wanted to know for future reference. My grammar sucks but at least I can try to spell stuff right ya know? "Ammunition clips"... morons... But that's what I expect from today's media, stupidity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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