jwulf 179 Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) So I just learned of this interesting gun... the kel-tech sub 2000. A "pistol" with a long barrel (as it was described), but yet it had a stock... nowhere did it mention NFA... Do how does this weapon skirt NFA? It looks like an SBR to me. One had an AFG on it which could push out towards AOW territory... Anyone know the story on this one? Edited October 1, 2013 by jwulf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted October 1, 2013 Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 (edited) Sub2000 has a 16" barrel and is over 26" when in use. Because it's not functional when folded it doesn't violate the nfa. Edited October 1, 2013 by Darth Saigus 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwulf 179 Posted October 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2013 Ah ha! Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Eagle 839 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Sub2000 has a 16" barrel and is over 26" when in use. Because it's not functional when folded it doesn't violate the nfa. There was a story on another forum where some Bubba figured out how to bypass the safety and had a kaboom. The safety is there for a reason, numbnuts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 Sub2000 has a 16" barrel and is over 26" when in use. Because it's not functional when folded it doesn't violate the nfa. There was a story on another forum where some Bubba figured out how to bypass the safety and had a kaboom. The safety is there for a reason, numbnuts. Considering that the bolt is in one half and the barrel is in the other half I don't think that story is true. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 There was a story on another forum where some Bubba figured out how to bypass the safety and had a kaboom. The safety is there for a reason, numbnuts. Wut? nevr heared that un. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
horatio 515 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 what There was a story on another forum where some Bubba figured out how to bypass the safety and had a kaboom. The safety is there for a reason, numbnuts. what would really be impressive is if someone could find a 9mm glock model somewhere for under 600. i've been looking for a year 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haugpatr 972 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 I purchased one in December here in Michigan and it is actually considered a pistol in Michigan. Michigan changed the law Jan 1, prior to that anything less than 30" was considered a pistol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 I got rid of the one I have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulnj088 10 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 i love my 40 cal subby ..never fails Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 It is a rifle not a pistol that does not funtion when folded in half. It is a hot item at the moment, and the left hate it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
corbin 621 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 I love mine, though it's the older SUB 9 model and not the SUB 2000. Having mine registered as a pistol in MI allows me to legally keep it loaded in my vehicle with my carry licence. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 I got rid of the one I have. That's a shame. The scope mount you have on the one you had is pretty cool. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
psl sniper 963 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 what There was a story on another forum where some Bubba figured out how to bypass the safety and had a kaboom. The safety is there for a reason, numbnuts. what would really be impressive is if someone could find a 9mm glock model somewhere for under 600. i've been looking for a year Mines the glock model. I added a steel band around the grip. Keeps it tight. Once i fixed that i was able to use the drums without issues. The 50 rnd drums are awsome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 I got rid of the one I have. That's a shame. The scope mount you have on the one you had is pretty cool. Read it again. Think about where I am. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 I love mine, though it's the older SUB 9 model and not the SUB 2000. Having mine registered as a pistol in MI allows me to legally keep it loaded in my vehicle with my carry licence. You shouldn't have to have anything registered but good on ya for having it hot in the the car. Your rifle is superior to the new model and I have been searching for it for many years. Your shit is metal, not plastic! Hooah! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 OP. It's not an AOW or NFA because KelTec, like them or not, is one of the most innovative small companies out there! They know the bullshit laws and are very scientific in their process of saying "FUCK YOU" to the people who make these retarded laws. Nobody out there is trying new things like they are. A great example of this is the RFB. It's shorter than most people's SBR rifles and is completely legal, even in Canada! The mechanics of the RFB are amazing. It was a real risk in 7.62nato. They have a lot of negative feedback on some of the pistols but I have never had a problem with them. They are cheap, basic and go boom every time if you take the time to get them to run right. Kinda like our Saiga! I followed the instruction on my RFB and have never had any problems with it. I trust it more than the piece of junk uncle sam issued me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 That rifle has turned out to be the most surprisingly useful tool. When we had an 8 day power outage after a storm I was never without it, packs well even into a large fanny pack, carries well on a sling under a rain coat, and shoots straight. POI varies between one to two inches from the laser( cannot recommend that addition enough) POA at 50 yards with good ammo. With a pistol using the same mags as the rifle I never felt under prepared. While I "may" keep a H-P 995 in the truck I prefer the S2k for toting. Whats not to like. Good luck finding a Sub9 rare as hen's teeth, Ive inspected one and they are ok but weight feels so much lighter on the Sub2k and frankly that matters for what I presume is its designed purpose. Not a big fan of +P ammo in the rifle, think one would be pushing it, so went 40sw and never have regretted it. Should one have to leave everything else behind but the pistol and the 2k one could do a lot worse. Kel-Tech has failures (marketing) with some models but they at least are willing to push into new territory. Glad they do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted October 2, 2013 Report Share Posted October 2, 2013 I got rid of the one I have. That's a shame. The scope mount you have on the one you had is pretty cool. Read it again. Think about where I am. I did the first time and tracked. Notice my use of tense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aram Fingal 11 Posted October 3, 2013 Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 (edited) what There was a story on another forum where some Bubba figured out how to bypass the safety and had a kaboom. The safety is there for a reason, numbnuts. what would really be impressive is if someone could find a 9mm glock model somewhere for under 600. i've been looking for a year I just bought one (used mind you) for $450. I think I lucked out though I've been watching them for about a year on Gunbroker. Then stumbled across one at a local pawn shop when they posted it on their facebook page. I replied and told them I would be there in 5 minutes. Then I picked up 2 50rd drums on Gunbroker for $69 each ($74 with shipping). I bet that guy was pissed, I was the only one that bid on them for some reason. He had four and someone outbid me on two of them by $5. They go for about $150 a local shops. Edited October 3, 2013 by Aram Fingal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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