jfreakofkorn 1 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 hello, helping a friend w/ his S12 and he let out a few rounds, and he walked w/ a bruse on his on his shoulder a few days later ... the question, is there a stock that recoils and will take the kick ... w/o leaving a bruse on the shoulder .... a supplier would help, or any insight/ opinions are welcome thank you for looking ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EthanM 514 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 There's numerous stocks available that can help with recoil. Or you can just add a recoil pad. Big question, is it converted or factory? Here's a good supplier: http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com Edit: Plus you get 10% off being a forum member. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jfreakofkorn 1 Posted March 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 its a factory setup and the only thing that he has done to it, is just an auto plug tac47 i think Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billybobf 50 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Sgm makes a thick rubber pad You can even buy it from the forum store I think Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EthanM 514 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) Well if he doesn't want to convert, then this seems like an option: http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/product_p/phoenix-saiga-stockset.htm If you convert You can use a mako recoil reduce tube. I use a magpul Ctr stock with an enhanced buttpad. I shoot slugs and buckshot a lot without any bruises. Edited March 10, 2014 by Ethan M 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 hello, helping a friend w/ his S12 and he let out a few rounds, and he walked w/ a bruse on his on his shoulder a few days later ... the question, is there a stock that recoils and will take the kick ... w/o leaving a bruse on the shoulder .... a supplier would help, or any insight/ opinions are welcome thank you for looking ... A bruse, huh. I will be praying for him and hope he pulls through. That can leave a boo boo. Keep in mind adding a recoil stock can change the way the gun cycles by absorbing energy intended to cycle the action. Good luck and get a band-aid on that boo boo pronto. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XdamagedX 248 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Hold it tighter to the shoulder, also: more red meat and carbs... less vegetables, tofu and latte's. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 All of the above. other options include mercury tube, enedine... or one of several other brands of pogo stocks. I prefer a solid stock with a quality recoil pad. Kickeez or Limbsaver. It mounts nicer, and can't pinch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Slip on Limbsavers are a great place to start. I have one on my 10 gauge to tame down the turkey loads. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inspector 12 37 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I use a magpul Ctr stock with an enhanced buttpad. I shoot slugs and buckshot a lot without any bruises. image.jpg I would suggest the JT Engineering brake you have on it does quite a lot to reduce the recoil and muzzle jump. I know mine sure makes a difference in how the gun handles especially when firing in a fairly rapid fashion.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
burntpowder 23 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 (edited) Slip on Limbsavers are a great place to start. I have one on my 10 gauge to tame down the turkey loads. I prefer a solid stock with a quality recoil pad. Kickeez or Limbsaver. It mounts nicer, and can't pinch. These and I have also had great results with the Pachmayr Decelerator Slip-On Recoil Pads........sure did take a lot of the punch out of my 45-70 with hot and heavy loads. Edited March 13, 2014 by burntpowder Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 Lots of them work. I prefer kickeez because it works very well without being spongy. It is made of a material that is firm under light pressure, and soft under shock. The stuff doesn't get hard or oxidized with age like rubber or vinyl. Ones from the 1980s look and feel just the same as new ones. Ever used a crusty old factory pad from the 60s or 70s that may as well be wood? Also, it is solid rather than a system of voids. This means you can grind it to any shape you want. I've got a couple pachmayer grind to fit pads I picked up cheap because the professional gunsmith accidentally ground into a steel plate inside of them, and I chose not to pick up the ones where the smith ground too close to a hollow pocket. Most of them out there like most limbsaver models have the same hollow pockets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EthanM 514 Posted March 13, 2014 Report Share Posted March 13, 2014 I use a magpul Ctr stock with an enhanced buttpad. I shoot slugs and buckshot a lot without any bruises.image.jpg I would suggest the JT Engineering brake you have on it does quite a lot to reduce the recoil and muzzle jump. I know mine sure makes a difference in how the gun handles especially when firing in a fairly rapid fashion.. Yeah it actually helps quite a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jfreakofkorn 1 Posted March 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 what do they cost, the CTR stock and how easy are they to install .....?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EthanM 514 Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 what do they cost, the CTR stock and how easy are they to install .....?? Well it really depends. Lol Here's the kit for the conversion http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/product_p/s12-kit-5-ctr-6pc.htm Here's the enhanced recoil pad http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/product_p/magpul-recoilpad.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 Also, it is solid rather than a system of voids. This means you can grind it to any shape you want. I've got a couple pachmayer grind to fit pads I picked up cheap because the professional gunsmith accidentally ground into a steel plate inside of them, and I chose not to pick up the ones where the smith ground too close to a hollow pocket. Most of them out there like most limbsaver models have the same hollow pockets. Hummm... I'm fairly certain that Tromix freezes, then grinds to shape, their Limbsavers to fit their stocks? I have one and the result from the factory was pretty good. Needed a little clean up with a razor to be "just so", but I don't notice any big voids in it or anything. Seems like they were able to form it just fine. Maybe they improved over the years? That's also the one of the most expensive options out there for just a pad. So... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Also, it is solid rather than a system of voids. This means you can grind it to any shape you want. I've got a couple pachmayer grind to fit pads I picked up cheap because the professional gunsmith accidentally ground into a steel plate inside of them, and I chose not to pick up the ones where the smith ground too close to a hollow pocket. Most of them out there like most limbsaver models have the same hollow pockets. Hummm... I'm fairly certain that Tromix freezes, then grinds to shape, their Limbsavers to fit their stocks? I have one and the result from the factory was pretty good. Needed a little clean up with a razor to be "just so", but I don't notice any big voids in it or anything. Seems like they were able to form it just fine. Maybe they improved over the years? That's also the one of the most expensive options out there for just a pad. So... Yes, they use a different pad from the usual limbsaver line that is solid without voids. It costs significantly more than the usual pre-fit and grind to fit lines which do have voids. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MR_22 35 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) This is a good topic for me too--I just got a new Saiga-12 converted by Legion and I love everything about it, except the stock. I have the stock listed at Carolina Shooters as "AK ORIGINAL STYLE STOCK KVAR WARSAW LENGTH" and found here: http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/product_p/kvar-warsaw-stock.htm (And what sort of cleaning kit is supposed to be inserted into the stock? Because I didn't get anything with mine.) Anyway, I want something a little more interesting--and like the poster above, something that absorbs recoil a little better. What would you guys recommend? If I don't replace the whole stock, I would at least like a pad. What would fit it? Excuse, but I'm not new to firearms, but I'm a Saiga Noob. So, mine currently looks like this: Edited March 16, 2014 by MR_22 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Same as comes with an AK 74, but the shotgun comes with a different brush. The cleaning kit is intended to work with a cleaning rod they don't put on the shotguns. I'd rather have a good pad than a cleaning kit. Lots of us have run many round through the gun without cleaning. I don't remember exact count, but IIRC mine was still going strong after ~1200 rounds of bulk stuff before I decided to just clean it anyway. This was a few years back when I bought a lot of cheap ammo and wanted to see how dirty it could get. Others have done more. It depends on what you shoot, and the size angle and number of your ports. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Based on my limited experience, I would seek out whatever special Limbsaver Tromix is using and make it fit your stock. I REALLY like mine... and yes, it was expensive (I think the Limbsaver upgrade to my Tromix stock was $50). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MR_22 35 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) Based on my limited experience, I would seek out whatever special Limbsaver Tromix is using and make it fit your stock. I REALLY like mine... and yes, it was expensive (I think the Limbsaver upgrade to my Tromix stock was $50). I was checking that out last night and I have to agree; both on that looked like it would be a great upgrade and about being expensive, LOL. Edited March 19, 2014 by MR_22 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) It's DOPE and EXPENSIVE... Gotta pay to play! Tony Rumore (president of Tromix) will personally answer any inquiry about his products in the same day (generally).... I wouldn't hesitate to buy that Tromix stock and I didn't... I really like mine. edit: If you don't care for that stock, I'd still try to figure out what Limbsaver they are selling (generally GunFun is right on the mark, but I'm curious about whether or not the average-ever-day Limbsaver has voids vs. what he said... maybe their manufacturing process changed?).... Edited March 19, 2014 by Maxwelhse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ballistic brick 3 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 If your planning on changing the stock i'd go for the tromix with limbsaver. I currently have the 7.5" Ace skeleton stock with 1" pad. I think its the biggest they make. But in hind sight I do like the more squared shape of the tromix stock and the limbsaver is a beast. And Tony stands behind the quality of everything he does. I fired an S12 with 3" loads on a friends gun with the Tromix stock and it was a like a dream. On my first s12 i had a slip on butt pad before I folded and upgraded the stock. Wasn't the most attractive thing I ever put on a gun but it did the trick. Hardest part was keeping it on the stock. Velcro worked a bit but sloppy :/ I think it was from verifoce tactical for like $28. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jfreakofkorn 1 Posted March 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 i really appreciate every ones insight and experience on the subject .... very helpful would you all have links that i can relay to my friend regarding these opinions/ suggestions .... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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