jci63 1 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Hi: I'm new to the forum and to the saiga semi-auto shot gun. Whats the difference between these guns? Saiga IZ-109 12 gauge Vepr 12 gauge Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 They are different shotguns from different manufactures that use different parts and look different up close. Welcome to the nut house. Please use the search function to find out all the information you need. If you have a more specific question on selecting a shotgun, please ask.. I would suggest you go with the Saiga as it's easier to configure and has more support and parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Welcome. I'd go with the Vepr. It already has much of the work done. Just depends on what you want to do with it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spacehog 2,218 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Welcome to the forum, and just to add to the craziness...I vote you should get both the Saiga and the VEPR. Now you have three options to choose from. As Stryker said read up, there is a lot of info here, and you wouldn't go wrong with either option. The saiga may require a little more work to achieve certain configurations, but that is part of the fun IMHO. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunman1 1,753 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Use the search function to find what you want Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EthanM 514 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 If you want to work for it yo run right (or pay someone to do the conversion) then definitely the saiga Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerry52 893 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Saiga (because when you convert it , it becomes more than a gun) 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Venia 249 Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) Vepr Held one last week, oh my goodness that thing felt sweet. I look forward to the day I can own one or at least have a little fun with one. Edit: I got so carried away on that Vepr, I didn't even welcome you....sorry & welcome! Edited March 21, 2014 by Venia Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxwelhse 1,285 Posted March 21, 2014 Report Share Posted March 21, 2014 Welcome to the forum! Other than what everyone else above said (and I agree with get them both!) is that the Saiga is 1/2 the cost if you hunt around. Here's a question for you, what do you want to do with it? It could be that neither gun is good for your use. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Venia 249 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 You're in luck buddy, Vepr 12 on sale at Centerfire for $799.99 with fixed or folding stock......fuck why am I broke? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unclejake 428 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 You're in luck buddy, Vepr 12 on sale at Centerfire for $799.99 with fixed or folding stock......fuck why am I broke? Been asking myself that very question for decades now. Could have something to do with the dozens of long guns and thousands upon thousands of ammo that have seen the inside of said long guns 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
storm6490 2,768 Posted March 29, 2014 Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 $799 is a kick ass deal on a VEPR. I may have to consider one this summer if prices stay there. I have a really nice Saiga and it will be hard to beat. The VEPR might be a nice investment. I doubt I would want to modify it to run as good as my Tac-47. I could modify my own Saiga but the work would never be as good as the quality that was put into my shotgun. No way in hell would the VEPR run like my setup out of the box and I would be hesitant to modify the weapon that much. They are, from my understanding all Russian parts in a non neutered configuration. Unmolested VEPR and Saigas are commodities that will never loose value. I bet they will be very collectable one day. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jci63 1 Posted March 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 I ended up purchasing a Saiga 12 from this site. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big John! 2,062 Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 I ended up purchasing a Saiga 12 from this site. Now start studying your ass off on conversions. There is a ton of info on this site and youtube. If it doesn't run bulk type low brass loads, don't start buying gadget crap to fix it. There are dozens of threads here that will give you all the info you need to get it running light loads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) I ended up purchasing a Saiga 12 from this site. Now start studying your ass off on conversions. There is a ton of info on this site and youtube. If it doesn't run bulk type low brass loads, don't start buying gadget crap to fix it. There are dozens of threads here that will give you all the info you need to get it running light loads. Yeah don't buy gadgets. If it doesn't work it is clearly a manufacturer defect and very unsafe. I will need to take it of your hands.......for the children of course oh and BTW, Welcome to the forum Edited March 30, 2014 by VR6Shooter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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