magsite20 1,664 Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) oh yeah well take this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Nine http://www.cnet.com/news/mercedes-benz-builds-a-muscle-car/ Edited May 13, 2015 by the 4th Doctor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tundra1 391 Posted May 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 A true muscle car must only have two doors. Ever. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 oh yeah well take this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Nine http://www.cnet.com/news/mercedes-benz-builds-a-muscle-car/ Thanks, I will take that. It makes my point. Look at the one citation from that article (stub): http://www.notpurfect.com/main/wonder.html "What is a Wonder Nine? As a general rule, a wonder nine is a semiautomatic pistol which fires the 9 mm cartridge, and offers a number of features considered to be valuable for combat. These are generally not considered to be target guns. They are intended for combat use, and the emphasis is on firepower, safety, and readiness. The main features identifying these guns are: Double column magazine, generally holding from a dozen to just under twenty cartridges. Double action trigger system Polymer, stainless, or alloy construction for ease of maintenance. The C-Net article is basically ad-copy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
magsite20 1,664 Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) we may define things differently, but I respect your right to be wrong. you didn't note from the same : seems like your earlier statement was the action needed to be DA/SA now its double action, well DA kind of = safe action same / same pull trigger gun goes bang without cocking a hammer or lack there of. Examples include the MAB PA-15 (1968),[citation needed]Heckler & Koch VP70 (1970), Smith & Wesson Model 59 (1971[1][2]), Beretta 92 and CZ-75 (both 1975), Steyr GB (late 1970s/1981), Glock 17 (1982), and SIG Sauer P226 (1984). we all know the wiki is never wrong. Note the H&K VP70 is also a polymer striker fired gun plus was select fire. I'm sure a professional automotive writer's calling it a "muscle car" would carry more weight than a few laymen opinions in a court of law, maybe not on a forum but who cares? trust me on this I not an expert on any of this but I'm prepared to play one on TV or a forum plus I might stay at a Best Western in the future. Edited May 14, 2015 by the 4th Doctor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ktcm7271 999 Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I just got my first 9mm's this year, probably doesn't count as wonder 9's, but I like them: 1. TNW Aero-survival carbine. It uses Glock mags and is easily converted to .40 and .45. 2. Wifey just got a Charter Arms Pitbull 9mm revolver. No moon clip needed. Real fun to shoot and a good SD gun for her. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 Classic has the GP K100 on sale for $400. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 My favorite nine is my IMI Uzi. While not a "wonder nine" it's accurate, and extremely reliable. With the Israeli issue SMG ammo, it's got plenty of snort. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Heartbreaker 1,085 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) Classic has the GP K100 on sale for $400.I was looking at its' big brother, the P45, anybody have experience with it? Seems just like the K scaled up to .45 Edited May 17, 2015 by Heartbreaker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Garys4598 1,065 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 My favorite nine is my IMI Uzi. While not a "wonder nine" it's accurate, and extremely reliable. With the Israeli issue SMG ammo, it's got plenty of snort. Well, in that case. . . my absolute favorite "wonder nine" is my wife's Dakota Tactical D34 9mm carbine: 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Garys4598 1,065 Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) TUNDRA, YOU JUST MISSED A BATCH OF HI-POWERS OVER AT AIM SURPLUS, RANGING FROM $429-499, DEPENDING ON CONDITION. AIM HAS HAD SEVERAL BATCHES OF THESE RECENTLY, SO I'D GO OVER THERE AND GET SIGNED-UP FOR A NOTIFICATION THE NEXT TIME THEY HAVE THEM IN STOCK. . . . I was fortunate that week by reacting to the AIM Surplus email that I received fast enough to. . . secure one of the reported "select grade" condition Israeli police surplus FN MkIII (Browning Hi-Power) 9mm pistols. Even paid the additional $10 for 'hand pick." Upon inspecting the pistol after its arrival. . . . the matching serial numbered barrel appears to me to have never been fired (though that's gotta be unlikely). The exterior bluing on the slide's forend was rather worn; it must have been carried and holstered a great deal, and the pistol's plastic grips were somewhat dinged-up (not that I care; I'll be replacing them in short order with a set of Craig Spegel wood grips) . . . . to the point that normally I would believe the pistol should have been catorgized as "in good condition" verus excellent. Yet, it is a surplus police pistol and it was AIM Surplus that I purchased it from, so. . . . I suppose in their view, it was in excellent condition. Took the pistol out to the firing range for the first time this past Saturday, and. . . . I was friggen thrilled by how well she shot; her POI was very tight. Got plans for this baby. . . . gonna send her off to be completely re-blued to a high polish and I'll trick her out in a few other ways as well. This was a super-fantastic purchase. AIM presently have "Refinished FN MK 3 Hi-Power 9mm Pistols" available. These select few pistols have been refinished with a hot black oxide finish and look fantastic! (Much better than the pistol pictured above.) If anyone is interested (forum rules prohibit me from posting a weblink ). Edited June 5, 2015 by Gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 AIM presently have "Refinished FN MK 3 Hi-Power 9mm Pistols" available. These select few pistols have been refinished with a hot black oxide finish and look fantastic! (Much better than the pistol pictured above.) If anyone is interested (forum rules prohibit me from posting a weblink ). $530 but really nice looking, especially with the wood grips. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Mine favorite is the M11a1 Sig. Then my P226. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted June 6, 2015 Report Share Posted June 6, 2015 Here my favorite "Wonder 9" As in "I Wonder how fast we can push a 9mm bullet out of a 4" barrel?" Try just under 1600fps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 TUNDRA, YOU JUST MISSED A BATCH OF HI-POWERS OVER AT AIM SURPLUS, RANGING FROM $429-499, DEPENDING ON CONDITION. AIM HAS HAD SEVERAL BATCHES OF THESE RECENTLY, SO I'D GO OVER THERE AND GET SIGNED-UP FOR A NOTIFICATION THE NEXT TIME THEY HAVE THEM IN STOCK. . . . I was fortunate that week by reacting to the AIM Surplus email that I received fast enough to. . . secure one of the reported "select grade" condition Israeli police surplus FN MkIII (Browning Hi-Power) 9mm pistols. Even paid the additional $10 for 'hand pick." Upon inspecting the pistol after its arrival. . . . the matching serial numbered barrel appears to me to have never been fired (though that's gotta be unlikely). The exterior bluing on the slide's forend was rather worn; it must have been carried and holstered a great deal, and the pistol's plastic grips were somewhat dinged-up (not that I care; I'll be replacing them in short order with a set of Craig Spegel wood grips) . . . . to the point that normally I would believe the pistol should have been catorgized as "in good condition" verus excellent. Yet, it is a surplus police pistol and it was AIM Surplus that I purchased it from, so. . . . I suppose in their view, it was in excellent condition. Took the pistol out to the firing range for the first time this past Saturday, and. . . . I was friggen thrilled by how well she shot; her POI was very tight. Got plans for this baby. . . . gonna send her off to be completely re-blued to a high polish and I'll trick her out in a few other ways as well. This was a super-fantastic purchase. AIM presently have "Refinished FN MK 3 Hi-Power 9mm Pistols" available. These select few pistols have been refinished with a hot black oxide finish and look fantastic! (Much better than the pistol pictured above.) If anyone is interested (forum rules prohibit me from posting a weblink ). If Gary says something looks "fantastic" I am inclined to take his word for it. You can tell the phrase to google for without posting a link, and the name of the company. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Garys4598 1,065 Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) If Gary says something looks "fantastic" I am inclined to take his word for it. You can tell the phrase to google for without posting a link, and the name of the company. I appreciate the vote of confidence. But... one can decide for themself; here is the photo that AIM Surplus has posted of the pistol: Granted, the grips look a little chewed on... but they can readily be replaced. Edited June 8, 2015 by Gary Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Those are new enough to have HP friendly feed ramps, aren't they? I really haven't memorized the distinction between various versions of hi powers, but they are nice pistols. I think the worn bluing is more aesthetically pleasing than duracoat type stuff. Hot black oxide could look good or boring to me, but it should be fairly durable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Garys4598 1,065 Posted June 8, 2015 Report Share Posted June 8, 2015 Browning Hi-Powers new, are kinda ridiculously expensive (IMHO). So... obtaining a decent conditioned one under $600 to $500 seems somewhat of a bargain I think. But what do I know; money sometimes burns a hole in my pocket. As for the specimen I obtained from AIM Surplus: I've shipped her slide to NOVAK Designs to have new iron sights installed. Today, I shipped her safety lever off to Jim Garthwaite to have him modify it. I have already replaced the pistol's trigger with a Garthwaite competition trigger... and I've replaced her sear and hammer with Elite Warrior Armament products (a Colt 1911 commander-style hammer). Lastly, I've ordered custom Craig Spegel wood grips for her. Anyway, once the slide and safety lever are returned, the entire pistol will be shipped for rebluing to a high luster, with some of her controls receiving nitre-bluing. She should be quite the looker once all is said and done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JESS1344 508 Posted June 9, 2015 Report Share Posted June 9, 2015 (edited) Those are new enough to have HP friendly feed ramps, aren't they? I really haven't memorized the distinction between various versions of hi powers, but they are nice pistols. I think the worn bluing is more aesthetically pleasing than duracoat type stuff. Hot black oxide could look good or boring to me, but it should be fairly durable. GUNFUN, AS I RECALL, THE ONES WITH THE LARGER SAFETY AND THE SPUR HAMMER ALSO HAVE THE IMPROVED FEED RAMP. JESS1344 Edited June 9, 2015 by JESS1344 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Garys4598 1,065 Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 TUNDRA, YOU JUST MISSED A BATCH OF HI-POWERS OVER AT AIM SURPLUS, RANGING FROM $429-499, DEPENDING ON CONDITION. AIM HAS HAD SEVERAL BATCHES OF THESE RECENTLY, SO I'D GO OVER THERE AND GET SIGNED-UP FOR A NOTIFICATION THE NEXT TIME THEY HAVE THEM IN STOCK. . . . I was fortunate that week by reacting to the AIM Surplus email that I received fast enough to. . . secure one of the reported "select grade" condition Israeli police surplus FN MkIII (Browning Hi-Power) 9mm pistols. Even paid the additional $10 for 'hand pick." Upon inspecting the pistol after its arrival. . . . the matching serial numbered barrel appears to me to have never been fired (though that's gotta be unlikely). The exterior bluing on the slide's forend was rather worn; it must have been carried and holstered a great deal, and the pistol's plastic grips were somewhat dinged-up (not that I care; I'll be replacing them in short order with a set of Craig Spegel wood grips) . . . . to the point that normally I would believe the pistol should have been catorgized as "in good condition" verus excellent. Yet, it is a surplus police pistol and it was AIM Surplus that I purchased it from, so. . . . I suppose in their view, it was in excellent condition. Took the pistol out to the firing range for the first time this past Saturday, and. . . . I was friggen thrilled by how well she shot; her POI was very tight. Got plans for this baby. . . . gonna send her off to be completely re-blued to a high polish and I'll trick her out in a few other ways as well. This was a super-fantastic purchase. My Browning FN MKIII finally arrived back from Fogle's Gunsmithing where she was reblued to a mirror finish, and most of her control parts nitre blued for accent. I am very pleased with the final results. Now she's a heirloom piece. 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XD45 7,124 Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Stunning. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Simplicity at its finest there. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JDeko 792 Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 It really is gorgeous Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawk451 2,230 Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Art in steel & wood. Nicely done, sir! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 TUNDRA, YOU JUST MISSED A BATCH OF HI-POWERS OVER AT AIM SURPLUS, RANGING FROM $429-499, DEPENDING ON CONDITION. AIM HAS HAD SEVERAL BATCHES OF THESE RECENTLY, SO I'D GO OVER THERE AND GET SIGNED-UP FOR A NOTIFICATION THE NEXT TIME THEY HAVE THEM IN STOCK. . . . I was fortunate that week by reacting to the AIM Surplus email that I received fast enough to. . . secure one of the reported "select grade" condition Israeli police surplus FN MkIII (Browning Hi-Power) 9mm pistols. Even paid the additional $10 for 'hand pick." Upon inspecting the pistol after its arrival. . . . the matching serial numbered barrel appears to me to have never been fired (though that's gotta be unlikely). The exterior bluing on the slide's forend was rather worn; it must have been carried and holstered a great deal, and the pistol's plastic grips were somewhat dinged-up (not that I care; I'll be replacing them in short order with a set of Craig Spegel wood grips) . . . . to the point that normally I would believe the pistol should have been catorgized as "in good condition" verus excellent. Yet, it is a surplus police pistol and it was AIM Surplus that I purchased it from, so. . . . I suppose in their view, it was in excellent condition. Took the pistol out to the firing range for the first time this past Saturday, and. . . . I was friggen thrilled by how well she shot; her POI was very tight. Got plans for this baby. . . . gonna send her off to be completely re-blued to a high polish and I'll trick her out in a few other ways as well. This was a super-fantastic purchase. My Browning FN MKIII finally arrived back from Fogle's Gunsmithing where she was reblued to a mirror finish, and most of her control parts nitre blued for accent. I am very pleased with the final results. Now she's a heirloom piece. The Nitre blued accent parts really adds to the class. I really want to try that out sometime, I love the look. It's often complimentary to bronze or case hardened colors too. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tundra1 391 Posted September 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Damn nice hi power, Gary. Turned out beautiful. I really need to try to score one of these myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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