BattleRifleG3 16 Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 For those who want to use hi-cap mags and/or Jeric's pistol grip stocks but don't want to do the metalworking, or just like the classic stocks, I could modify US made fire control groups to fit your unconverted Saiga. This would replace three US made parts out of five needed. (There's no p-grip but the trigger is separate and a different part than the standard AK, so YES an unconverted Saiga needs five parts replaced.) You would use the same trigger and transfer bar system, just drop in the sear (former trigger), disconnector, and hammer. Pricing would be $50-70, depending on what I can get the FCGs for, which is about the same or less than the higher end AK FCGs. So please tell me - would you want such a thing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RangerM9 1 Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 For those who want to use hi-cap mags and/or Jeric's pistol grip stocks but don't want to do the metalworking, or just like the classic stocks, I could modify US made fire control groups to fit your unconverted Saiga. This would replace three US made parts out of five needed. (There's no p-grip but the trigger is separate and a different part than the standard AK, so YES an unconverted Saiga needs five parts replaced.) You would use the same trigger and transfer bar system, just drop in the sear (former trigger), disconnector, and hammer. Pricing would be $50-70, depending on what I can get the FCGs for, which is about the same or less than the higher end AK FCGs. So please tell me - would you want such a thing? HELL YES! I was actually about to post to see if anyone knew how to do it! I love my .223 in its stock config. Was looking to have Cobra76 convert it for me just to use hi-cap legally. ...but i honestly love the sporter look of it. (when i get a 7.62x39 as well....going to have to sneak it by the wife!......that one i will convert almost for sure...) If you could mod the parts and send it with some instruction on how to put them in i'd be very interested. would then need to place an order for some wood with you as well...or from Jeric... will be watching this thread closely. thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Birrdog 0 Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 For those who want to use hi-cap mags and/or Jeric's pistol grip stocks but don't want to do the metalworking, or just like the classic stocks, I could modify US made fire control groups to fit your unconverted Saiga. This would replace three US made parts out of five needed. (There's no p-grip but the trigger is separate and a different part than the standard AK, so YES an unconverted Saiga needs five parts replaced.) You would use the same trigger and transfer bar system, just drop in the sear (former trigger), disconnector, and hammer. Pricing would be $50-70, depending on what I can get the FCGs for, which is about the same or less than the higher end AK FCGs. So please tell me - would you want such a thing? HELL YES! I was actually about to post to see if anyone knew how to do it! I love my .223 in its stock config. Was looking to have Cobra76 convert it for me just to use hi-cap legally. ...but i honestly love the sporter look of it. (when i get a 7.62x39 as well....going to have to sneak it by the wife!......that one i will convert almost for sure...) If you could mod the parts and send it with some instruction on how to put them in i'd be very interested. would then need to place an order for some wood with you as well...or from Jeric... will be watching this thread closely. thanks Is there any pics.? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvasqu03 21 Posted June 10, 2006 Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 (edited) I'd actually been looking at this myself. I've noticed that some US made trigger groups have a bigger "beefier" trigger, so I was looking around for a trigger that I could cut in half and still have enough material to make both the sear and a trigger out of (I do have a sample saiga trigger group I've been using for comparison). In answer to your specific question, yes I'd be interested, but obviously, I'd much rather have a trigger group with all four parts, where I can add a US made gas piston and be done (I think I'm counting right, but please correct me if I'm not). Would you include appropriately sized axis pins to use for this FCG? I dont' think they're the same size as the ones on a regular AK FCG. Edited June 10, 2006 by cvasqu03 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted June 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2006 Every Saiga conversion I've done has used the same size pins as the FCG needs. I thought of doing a trigger too, but it would skyrocket the price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted June 11, 2006 Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 This would be good for those who don't want to convert or lack the skills to convert their rifles . I hope you can eliminate the Saiga trigger slap with your parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted June 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2006 I haven't heard of trigger slap before on a Saiga, but the US made FCGs I would be using are a common fix for the trigger slap problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted June 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2006 Ok, I'm lining up an order on some FCGs, so now's the time to get serious. Post here or PM or E-mail me if you want to buy a US made AK FCG professionally modified to fit an unconverted Saiga (except 308). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uzitiger 193 Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 I haven't heard of trigger slap before on a Saiga, but the US made FCGs I would be using are a common fix for the trigger slap problem. Mine occasionally does have a trigger slap and it hurts my finger when I shoot it a lot. It feels like the trigger is snapping at my fingertip. I haven't tried to look at a solution since I got a US compliance kit to convert the rifle. I haven't done the conversion but I wouldn't mind replacing the fire control system with US made parts. I already have a (Century) hammer and gas piston. I haven't shot it much since cheap Russian ammo became a problem. Maybe someone can import ammo from other former Com Bloc countries to alleviate the shortage of Russian ammo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JK-47 33 Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 BRG3, did this endeavor ever pan out? Does anyone have such a modified FCG in their Saiga? I might be interested in having this done to a tapco G2 single hook FCG. Would it be possible to send the unmodified FCG to you, since I will most likely be buying it in a package deal? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vanhoutster 0 Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 I don't know if this is a sign or not... but my buddy just bought a .223 siaga a week ago and it came with a 30 rd mag. it even has a RAA stamp on the little baggy it came in. I am wondering if converting it is even neccesary to be legal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted September 24, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Ask two different BATF agents and you'll get three different answers. With full US parts compliance though you can be more comfortable converting the gun to take military mags and add a muzzle attachment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roscoe 0 Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 (edited) Count me in if it is $50 or so. Mine is a .223. Edited September 24, 2006 by roscoe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 At $50 or less, I would buy one for my S-.308, and one for my S-12. Make the .308 first, then we can use FBMG's mags in "unconverted" woodie's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
investorsc 0 Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 I would be interested. Pictures would be a big help... BRUCE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted September 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 These would work in everything BUT the S-308, as these would simply be modified to fit in the linkage whereas the S-308 has an extended trigger. Whole different animal. I can't for the life of me figure out why they did all the same except this one. Regarding pricing, consider that normal AK US made FCGs cost at their best in the mid $30s, and this requires even more work yet. Thankfully this has been tested successfully and the first buyer has reported full satisfaction. I'll currently set pricing at $60 shipped. At this point I will only consider discounting if ordered in quantity or as a package with other items from me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roscoe 0 Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 OK, do you need money up front? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted September 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Standard terms are 50% down, rest on completion. For this amount it's probably easier for you to just send it all, but I'm fine with 50/50 terms if you want to do it that way. Turnaround on these would be a few weeks due to current standing orders. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RangerM9 1 Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 (edited) Just a note of support....i got my modified Tapco FCG from BRG3 a month or so back...other that the BHO spring issue that i had (couldn't get it back in until Dinzag taught me the trick)...it installed easy..... and it works great!. Can't wait for the wood to get here....BRG3 is working on that (custom quasi pistol grip and slightly modified handgaurd) as well. He's had some issues with the wood supply but has been an A+ communicator on every issue, and has found options to satisfy this customer. He will NOT sell you substandard goods. Good man to work with, he will not disappoint you. BRG3.....the rest of my money will be on the way soon....been a hell of a week, will hopefully get to the office next week and get the MO out to you then. later all GOOD GRIEF - Racerboy thanks for catching that typo!.... and BRG3 apologies for any confusion! Edited October 2, 2006 by RangerM9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
racerboy6996 0 Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 He will sell you substandard goods. I think this is a misprint... probably should read he WILL NOT sell you substandard goods.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted October 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 (edited) Sure hope so. Actually, I will sell substandard goods at substandard pricing, aka seconds, so people who want something cheap to work with or paint black to match synth stocks or something like that can get a good deal too. But I won't screw an order with a screwup. Edited October 2, 2006 by BattleRifleG3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RangerM9 1 Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Sure hope so. Actually, I will sell substandard goods at substandard pricing, aka seconds, so people who want something cheap to work with or paint black to match synth stocks or something like that can get a good deal too. But I won't screw an order with a screwup. Ok...i stand corrected...lol....and i have corected my post....forgive my typo please! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted October 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 I had a good laugh, knew what you meant the whole time and very much appreciate the compliments. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pineapplejack 0 Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 I will assume this project is still alive. What would the cost be if I supply the US made FCG? Would you need any other parts? One problem I have is missing the plate under the trigger guard. Any suggestions? Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted March 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Yep, I can still take orders for these. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TEXASAK73 13 Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 Well I need to order a few things from you soon.I'll need a quasi-pistol grip set,and the FCG. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
S12.308NSC 0 Posted March 5, 2007 Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 BRG3 - did you or anyone else ever come up with a solution for an unmodified .308 drop-in trigger replacement? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BattleRifleG3 16 Posted March 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2007 That would take welding or a level of machining that is not within my means. My modified G2 trigger groups will work on any Saigas except the S-308 and S-100. If I did come up with something for them, it would be too expensive. My recommendation is to do the P-grip conversion or use other US parts for compliance. A stock set from me would be more cost effective for an unconverted S-308, and combined with an FBMG mag your compliance issues would be settled. Using the factory mag, you're still in the sporting config so there's no problem there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
urotu 1 Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Yep, I can still take orders for these. Hey there BRG3, this is something I'm interested in, PM me or something to let me know, I'm also interested in a set of front hand gaurds too. I like the 2 piece. I know I'll have to talk to dinzag about the retainers for them, but it's all good. Let me know man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GreenEyedDevil 0 Posted March 22, 2007 Report Share Posted March 22, 2007 what kinda leads are you quoting on these now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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