mike12345

I understand a tactical reload to be reloading before your empty, with the bolt closed and a round still in the chamber. I dont understand how a bolt on charging handle makes that easyer. how about drilling a hole into the charging handle and using a longer set screw?

i need to see what the inside of this rail looks like. Im thinking about chopping one down for a 8in saiga so i can have a longer handguard because the micro handguards suck. i need to see if its possible and how much machining is required.

dont forget you can still run a choke on a SBS and not have a much wider pattern. You can also run TAP/Flight control and get tighter patterns without chokes.

im talking about getting shot by someone else in the right arm... your arm goes dead/no longer works. Now you have to fire left handed with casings ejecting into the side of your face. bottom ejecting designs are ok but still slower to reload. bullpups are usuially a more complicated design thats harder to work on. Ever take apart a FAMAS? Manual of arms is the movements we do in formation for drill and ceremony. I dont see how that would help.

dude your not supose to shoot the dead bolt itself... the deadbolt is steel and can cause ricochet. Your supose to shoot the door, going after the pin that gos into the door frame. Your doors would have still been locked with the pin in place. If its a wood door we just used 9 pellot buckshot with the barrel pressed aganst the door at a 45degree angle. If its steel i'd only shoot at it with a breaching round. What you did there is not safe. We were trained to do it and still had a guy lose an eye, while wearing eye protection.

nobody wants to take their handguard off?

I have used all different weapon systems, I dont like bullpups for two reasons. 1 the action is at the rear of the stock which sucks if your left handed, or if you have to shoot left handed. IE get shot in your right arm. 2 they are slower to reload, most use a paddle type/AK style release which sucks. You cant draw another mag while you drop the empty in the gun. They do have the benifit of a longer barrel in a shorter package but with a shotgun you dont need a longer barrel. If you live in a NFA friendly state you can run a 11.5in barrel and only lose 100FPS.

Can I fire heavy 3in magnum loads, without excessive recoil from the bolt slamming into the rear of the reciever, without adjusting your plug to fire it? By heavy i mean heavy 3in 15 pellot 00B 3in 24 pellot #1 buck 3in 41 pellot #4 buck

I have a pic request, I need to see the inside of a Chaos tri-rail. I want to put one of your trirails on an 8in saiga 12, I know a few rail forends are already made for the 8in but I want more handguard to hold onto. I just want to see what im getting myself into first. What needs machining? Can I just drill the screw hole and install the handguard?

nevermind

ok where do you buy it? I would be very careful what you shoot these at, tony should put a disclamer on it saying something about ricochets just to CYA.

like i said the TAP or flight control wad blows apart, pick them up after and look at them. It hooks sideways sometimes, i've had pellots hit the ground in front of me from this. im looking for a good reliable pattern. Im thinking having the barrel overbored/backbored may help. I'll try #1 16 pellot tomorrow I still have 3rds in a box here.

what patterns well out of the 8 in saiga shotguns? I have fired hornady tap and federal flight control which are the same wad almost but the back of the wad gets blown apart by the higher pressure and they seem to hook sideways sometimes.... that produces a pattern thats dangerous for bystanders. first pic is 8in wads second pic is 18in barrel the stretched wad is out out of an 11.5in barrel I have shot a few others 12 pellot remington express sucks... so what are you shooting that patterns well?

I swear the same topics keep coming back... A PK machinegun uses a 7.62x54r the browning designs work but a 12ga will be a pain. The question is what benifits does it have over the mag fed... none. The gun will be heavyer and bulky. You would need a big box for the ammo belt also.

well obviously the russians never learned the value of overbore or backbore in shotguns. http://www.browningint.com/fiches/backbore.html I'd consider having it done but the barrel is chrome lined... I shoot hornady TAP a lot (same as federal flight control), there is a lot of plastic fouling in the barrel from it. I cut one apart and the wad dosent fit in the muzzle end of the shotgun.

nope my 2 saigas are cut off SBS. 8 and 11in they should be cylender .730dia but arent.

Cameron, it needs bigger nipples! The problem with drums, even the C-mag type is that its a pain in the butt to carry the gun with these drums in it. With the gun slung the drum is bashing into you or in the way. If someone made a dubble stack mag I assume it would be better. It would have to be made in a right and left hand version. That way the extra stack of ammo is on the outside, the gun can lay flat aganst you slung, and not in your way. ETA: try to carry spair drums, its a pain. Then see how much more ammunition you could carry in standard magazines in the same amount

The barrel diameter is too small, I stuck a gauge in the end of the barrel thats .730 diameter and it dosent fit. Anyone have a caliper that can check their actual bore diameter?

let me guess, this conversion requires nonexistant $200ea russian magwell magazines. Then buying 10 of those will cost $2,000.00 alone. Not including the cost of the conversion parts for the gun. Even if you were willing to pay it you need to know how to press out the barrel and change it. It's not as easy as other weapon platforms. I think i'll pass. I already have 16 9rd russian Rock-n-lock mags anyway and cant justify the cost of conversion. Sure... The bolt locks open after the last round but you still have to pull the bolt back to release it. There really isent any difference. Rel

If the ATF would register new MG's I'd probably have 2 m60's. 26K is a lot of money for a gun, most people cant justify spending that on a vehicle. I have no doubt you can afford the price tag of transferable 60's with all of us throwing money at you, or at least I would hope so. Why spend the money though if you can build 5 for the price of one? bob im surprised you havent cut the magwell shorter, I bet I know who you got this from.

its a pre86 transferable reciever. If you only want one round or need to not fire number 2, hold the trigger and pull the bolt back a hair before you release. Tony has all the uber cool belt feds, Nice M60 mk43 mod0 I was looking into a mod 1 myself, but the damn thing would cost $33,000 to build.

just looked at your vid here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtfUPiXJenc Your gun is way over gassed with those 3in mags, you can tell because the ejecting shells are going way too far. You may want to use a lighter load because your bolt is going too fast and beating the shit out of the rear trunion. Take a look at it.

If you want to do this legal like, you cant be in possession of the gun and the barrel, if the barrel is shorter than 18in. You cannot cut this down yourself without breaking some law, even if its just constructive possession of a SBS. You may as well just register it as a SBS, or mail it in. If you dont want the ability to shoot low brass cheap birdshot, your gun will still cycle with Highbrass ammo and stock .073 gas ports with a 15in barrel. It would still cycle shorter.

I believe you can use an ak47 safety selector but it probably will not drop right in. You'll need to fit it to the trigger group.