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As far as I can tell they are all phony's and liars. My fatherinlaw used to call them "ARTIFICALS". There is no real incentive to represent in a two party system. One party is always in controll and the other is the'opposition'. Controll being the operative word. With a multi party system compromises HAVE to be made and more different parts of the population can have their concernes addressed. With this election so closely contested DON'T let either side count on our vote WITHOUT 'courting' us carefully.Scream IF YOU WANT OUR VOTE ADRESS OUR ISSUES. We are in the same position 3rd world natio

Sorry to cut last post short--it was time to celebrate with family. 6. Sabot rounds.These can be shot thru cylinder(open)choke,but without the spin from the rifeled choke(or barrell)they way not loose the sabot and will not be as accurate.Also a sabot round is roughly equal to .50 cal black powder rifle-simular projectile,weight and velocity.Very good for large game-longer accurate range than full gauge slugs,less bullet drop. Years ago'farmer brown' used to load rock salt and flour in his "get out of my watermelon patch' shells. Beside the welts it would put in your hide,the flour

Bvamp makes some good points,but let me clear up a couple misconceptions. 1. Before shooting ANYTHING except lead shot know what if any choke your shotgun has.An american dime should pass through the muzzle if the weapon safe for slugs,ect. this is NOT to say you don't need to know what you have and what you are doing--it is just $10,000 worth of insurance for 10cents. 2.SAIGA's do not fire from a stamped reciever-they fire from a locked bolt.The bolt has 2 heavy lugs that engauge the reciever.The reciever is completly made in the barrell.This is the strongest type of action-simular to bolt

Tantal has 2 round mags. Great price $54.30 for 4. I just recieved mine thursday I split the order with a friend,but at those prices it is worth it to get 4 if you don't have someone to split an order with. Also I am toying with the idea of attaching a 2 round bottom to bottom with a 5 round. Will have to see what it looks like.We cannot have mags over 5 rounds,2 mags attached are still 2 mags. G O B

Bvamp- you're right about "normal joe's".No honest man will ever spend millions to get elected to a job that pays 450 grand. My problem with "W" is that he is systymatically dismanteling the middle class in america. He's not alone,just the current figurehead for the radical right of the conservative movement.Everything about him is superficial.NOT a Texan,he is from kennebuckport maine.Never completed his military service.Not a regular guy-yale degree(skull and crossbones member)Harvard MBA. He has made millions in "stock options"while his company went broke. During campain(last one) claimed "

We have 2 candidates.Neither is one can be called moderate. The one in office did not get 50% of the vote.He is also smearing his opponents military record.(Brondze star,Silver star,Purple heart W/3clusters.)This from someone that dodged combat by using daddy's influence to get into the guard (2 DWI convictions,1breaking and entering)lost flight status for no show,got waver to leave early to go to harvard to get M.B.A. . Many of us protested the nam war,those of us who served have the right to speak the truth.We are the ones who BLEED.I did not go to nam,I served in the other war the so-called

To ARRH86 Shoot slugs/rifled slugs thru cylinder choke. Shoot subcaliber sabot slugs through extended rifled "choke'-also known as a paradox device. Other type chokes as recomended by manufacturer-the variety is amazing! The cylinder choke is bore size it is also good for shellcrackers,beanbags,incendiary,tracers and the million other"specialty"shells out there. This is the neatest thing about 12-ga. If You can imagine it you will find it out there. I understand the SAIGA chokes are external thread.American chokes are internal threads. Either way you still need to protect the threa

I'm with Bvamp. Looking cool is OK, but I believe in priorites. 1; It absolutly HAS to work.Anything delicate or fussy is not worth the agrivation. (1a;military designs are usually more rugged and easier to field strip,clean,ect.) 2; Anything overly expensive is no fun to "use hard and put away wet'. 3; It's more fun to play with if it is cheaper to feed! 4; Get the basic,most versitle ones first (.22,30-06,12-ga.,.223-----) 5; HAVE FUN! One old man's opinion-but if I haven't learned anything by now I probably nev

I have an order for 2 bolt hold-opens from 2-5 prepaid. Have not recieved order,cannot get anyone to return calls or e-mails. Let me know what you can find out,JiiKoo,and if I ever get a reply I will post it.

Midway is selling wolf 1oz 2-3/4 slugs for about $90. for 250 shells YEEHAH!! G O B

SAIGA_12 workswith 2 3/4 or 3" shells. I believe the .410 requires different mags for different length shells. But the 12ga. will handle either length shell even different lengths in the same magazine! The 12 has a gas regulator you will probably never need the 2 setting on the gas cylynder unless you shoot "police"(light loads for wussie's)rounds.Even these reduced loads should mainly work on setting 1. To see if your SAIGA is safe to shoot slugs see if a dime will fit down the muzzle if not it has a factory choke built into the barrell.SAIGA uses a 1mm. restriction wich is "extra full". DO

Tell her it's cheaper than a mistress! It might be a good idea to be shure she's not close to any objects that that have potential as missles when you do! LOL, G O B

Here are some places I've found that may be of intrest. http/www.tantal.kalashnikov.guns.ru/ they now have cheep SAIGA mags $54.30 for 4 including shipping! also SAIGA parts as well as a zillion AK things. www.blackjack buffers.com www.sksman.com www.k-var.com www.redstararms.com www.gunaccessories.com www.davids collectables.com www.hastings choke tubes.com These are some sites I've found,so I've started this thread to share-if you have some of you'r own-SHARE! I have shopped at TANTAL and BLACKJACK and recommend both. Happy hunti'n G O B (Grumpy Old Ba

HEY GUYS- Am I the only one who realizes that PAM dosn't exist? That post is just some sick mental weakling jerking your chain.There are plenty of pams in the world,but not posting on this site.The PAM we have here is someone so incompitent in their own life that they need to play juvinile pranks to feel they have some controll--HEY PAM IS YOUR REFRIDGERATOR RUNNING?

To LOVESGASOLINE I have the SAIGA-12,got it last year. Before I could try it a tree attacked wile I was cleaning up from last august's hurricane. Shattered both bones in right ancle left collarbone in 3 pieces. I finnally took the SAIGA-12 out a couple weeks ago. I was wondering if the recoil would be too much. WHAT recoil?I put maybe 30 to 40 rounds through that sucker with no discomfort at all. Felt more like a 16 gauge or .410 My sons and son inlaws were with me they had a remington pump.We went through 150 shells mostly with the SAIGA. The guys said the felt recoil of the pump was MUTCH

Great points guys.As near as I can de-cipher fed rules.Shuotguns detachable mag 5 round max. Many state laws 3 round IN weapon for hunting-requires 2 round mag(due to 2+1)Do not lose your gun because you also have a 5 round mag "in possesion" this could be in gear bag or even vehicle if you piss off the wrong LEO/warden/ DNR. Also shotgun detachable mag NO other "EVIL"features. The rule banning large cap. mags is the same one that makes streetsweepers illeagal.They became"weapons with no sporting purpose". I am serious about painting my SAIGA-12 cammo and putting pheasant and deer decals o

Hey guys ATF MAN is probably neither. Gov. types like their acronyms too much to shorten BATFE.(those with short johnsons need longer acronyms!). And we all know the man part is a lie!!

Hey assassan I would go with the30-06, if no other reason than it comes in more loadings than any 3 other calibers combined.I sporterized an 03-A3 springfield maybe 25 years ago,and this would be the one if GOD FORBID I could only save one!! It has mauser type action BEST safty ever made and EXCELLENT iron sights(garrand type). Use it to drive tent pegs,whatever-it always works. On this side of the pond 30-06 ammo is every where. I have shot everything from 55grain (22cal.discarding sabot) to 220 grain cast from linotype metal! Military surplus is still cheap and readily available. This one wi

I'm wondering what is going on myself. Ordered two bolt hold opens of feb.5. My e-mail was screwed for a while,so I telephoned.Twice both times i was promised a reply. Hasn't happened yet also my email is ok now,but I have not gotten a reply after several attempts. Anyone know WTF! I don't mind working with someone, but if they won't return my calls and emails I can only assume that they are in trouble, or have taken the money and run.

Here is ATF Man's mental match May they keep each other occupied hopefully too occupied for either to reproduce. For the sake of the common genepool,we can only hope!! www.ianalbert.com/mis/saiga

Check this out www.killacomputer.com (this is somthing I found surfing web) Remember dispose of waste properly.the more pieces it is in,the better it fits in the bag!

Love my saiga-12,so smooooth! Thinking about 30-06 for christmas wish list.Has anyone tried the saiga100 or vepr? Do the clips interchange?10round clips?I havnot found much info so far. Thanks

Good point I will now be wearing eye proyection when cleaning my guns(just getting ready to do that now).I also reccomend wearing nitrile gloves-they are like surgical gloves except blue in color and oil resistant. Pretty cheap at auto supply, These will also stop salty fingerprints that lead to corrosion especially if the weapon is stored for awile. G.O.B.

WE definitly need to keep sending letters to our congressmen and senators the AWB is a p.o.s. This has got to go! Meanwhile,I am going to paint my saiga-12 cammo--put decals of deer,turkey and pheasant on stock and handguard.These gunbanners see black and yell assault rifle --evil --must --sieze!! Here in maryland DNR requests deer be covered if transporting,the antigunners are not very intelligent they will talk about the last thing they saw,and not knowing what they are talking about don`t confuse them with facts.I figure pictures of game will register "sporting shotgun" remember we are NOT

Just shot my saiga-12 for the first time today !!!!!!!! I am going to need 50 billion shells YEEEHAAAAAAA!!!!! Also computer monitors make REALLY cool targets! Be nice,cleanup mess afterwards(hard to do grinning that hard)