saltydecimator 482 Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) its making the blog rounds, seems interesting, if street price were low enough you could take the guts out and build real gun with it, then sell the bullpup stock and be into it for cheap!? sounds legit!? http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2018/04/daniel-zimmerman/new-tristar-compact-bullpup-12-gauge-shotgun/ this is made by "kral" lotta folks hate on the turks, me, i hate on their vibro etched SNs and their kinda shoddy/sloppy fit and finish, mainly finish and engineering/overall design look.... Edited May 1, 2018 by saltydecimator Quote Link to post Share on other sites
netpackrat 566 Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 Nothing much wrong with the Turks that wouldn't be solved by kicking them out of Constantinople, and pushing them back into central Asia where they belong. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 Left Hand Operation? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted May 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 dunno about the ergonomics, in some old pics i found of their "normal" s-12 builds, they look like they retained the linkage holes, haha nothin like cloning something down to the tedious detail.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted May 2, 2018 Report Share Posted May 2, 2018 +1 Cloning a stupid detail that is so stupid they don't understand it, but still copy it. Imagine the depth of their confusion. On the other hand, imagine the depth of their ignorance if they simply copied that detail and didn't give a second thought to whether or not it made sense for their application. I am happy as long as the very basic parts are good enough to work with and will be durable. At the end of the day, I am thrilled with a donor that will make a good SBS that is worth throwing some time at. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
csspecs 1,987 Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 One thing that is interesting is that the importer is Tristar.. They tend to supply lots of small shops, so that should help the market grow a little. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Veprz 94 Posted May 5, 2018 Report Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) Whats this? Yet another shotgun that looks to take S-12/V-12 mags?? Wtf! Hold on I thought that market was "dead" and we should all just throw in the towel on kalasnikov based shotguns? $$mags$$bolts$$carriers$$extractors. Anybody like money? "Compatibility with popular Saiga-type 12ga magazines means a variety of sources and capacities are readily available." Uh oh guess they didnt get the memo that the S-12/V-12 and clone market is "dead", they better just scrap the whole project and cut their losses. Edited May 5, 2018 by Veprz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted May 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2018 oh its dead buddy, prices soared, obama left office without all out ban, folks tired of paying scare prices, and then lotsa folks get burned by junk.... sure its not the gun co fault people fudds and cant use hand tools, buuuuuuuuuut, until a cheap/realiable/sexy/marketed/supported item comes around (prob made by Ruger) its (ak pattern shotgun interest) not gonna come back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted September 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) maybe available now... texasags forum (whatever that is) had a first impressions thread but no internal pics etc https://texags.com/forums/34/topics/2981933 Edited September 27, 2018 by saltydecimator Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted September 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 looks kinda funny, but if the guts are drop in replacement saiga parts..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 Maybe the thing for them to do is sell it as a kit to slap on your US made KUSA K12... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted October 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2018 probably be for folks to do on the individual basis.... i am interested in some guts if folks just want the stock! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted October 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) got mine from the funshow yesterday... this my first edited vid with iMovie... thats why its kinda choppy and disjointed... long story long, they copied everything from a sporter saiga, left holes open where scope rail and trigger guard would mount, used small rivets (it seems anyways) and other stuff... $568 out the gunshow door. lil more than i would like to spend but i got impatient... pulled the gun outta chassis, bolted regular ak furniture to it, then profilied the hammer a bit, figured it might be helpful. maybe need more. later i will polish carrier a bit , remove the sharp humps... Edited October 21, 2018 by saltydecimator Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted October 22, 2018 Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 Well, stovepiping is close. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted October 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2018 hahah, so what should i do next? could you tell from vid if parts are cast or forged? i dont wanna mod too many parts as i assume they would blame shoddy parts on my mod if i ran into warranty issues... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 Well, barring action work, etc. really paints you into a corner. The first thing I would do is disassemble, strip all lube, and lube with some CLP Breakfree or some other thin lube (not frog lube, just thin oil). I'd try to evaluate whether or not the recoil spring weights and lengths matched the Saiga 12 closely next. If they are longer or heavier, I might try to find some standard weight Saiga 12 springs. If all was good or close enough with the springs I'd probably remove the gas block and have a look at whether or not it has any blocked ports or deviations from the Saiga 12 design that would affect reliability. Manually manipulate everything in the action and identify any binding. Do it with the recoil assembly in and with it out. The recoil assembly can hide things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Star Arms 2,047 Posted October 23, 2018 Report Share Posted October 23, 2018 Without mods I doubt it can be coaxed to reliably run the stuff you're shooting. CSS sells reduced power springs that might lower resistance enough to get the 1325 - 1350 FPS shells to run without having to get into modifying the action and gas system. If it runs 1450 - 1600 FPS ammo as is, it will definitely run the lower powered ammo with correct modification, but as it's a "new" clone, no one really knows yet how well it will hold up over time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted November 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 ya i wanna stay away from spring tweeks. seems a bad option.... gettin some deformation on my hammer already from the firing pin... must be soft. thats ok, easlily replaced/sourced part.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted November 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) live trapped a mouse. then dispatched it wiht the tristar. without top cover. im not diggin it, anyone wanna trade? oh, and dont tell peta Edited November 19, 2018 by saltydecimator 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted December 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2018 ran some remmy 6 birdshot "hunting " loads from mao mart (5.48/25) and they mostly ran... i need to re read the trigger mod posts on here to speed up hte trigger and make it nicer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted December 11, 2018 Report Share Posted December 11, 2018 Quick and dirty, you could use some 400 grit sandpaper wrapped around a precision file in the following places... trigger hook hammer where disconnector contacts hammer where trigger hook contacts disconnector where hammer contacts If you have good eyes or a magnifying glass, you might look for any significant burrs or significant rough areas and knock them down with the file first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rigs 0 Posted March 14, 2019 Report Share Posted March 14, 2019 So i've been doing a lot of research because I want the 25rnd drum for my tristar compact and since saiga 12 mags are interchangeable I just need to know one more thing which saiga 12 mag version would be interchangeable the lock and load version or the other? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted March 14, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2019 so the vepr is 25 rds and the saiga is 20. they are NOT interchangeable.... you would have to grind on your plastic to make it fit, and even then it may not.... so if you could try to fashion a vepr 12 type magwell out of hte tristar, it would work... buuuuuuut, that seems far fetched.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 On 3/13/2019 at 9:09 PM, Rigs said: So i've been doing a lot of research because I want the 25rnd drum for my tristar compact and since saiga 12 mags are interchangeable I just need to know one more thing which saiga 12 mag version would be interchangeable the lock and load version or the other? Get an MD-20 drum and a couple of 8 round Russian mags. Those are my favorites and I have used everything except the AA drums, which suck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saltydecimator 482 Posted March 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) Chassis sidewalks interfere with drum. Basically it’s a magwell. Hence the elongated mag release in the vid thumbnail Edited March 29, 2019 by saltydecimator Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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