nalioth 405 Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Don't they make the vortex in 14x1LH with the detents? I thought that was what I had here: Link to post Share on other sites
Leo.Kermes 1 Posted February 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Don't they make the vortex in 14x1LH with the detents? Thats odd that one is different that the one we got through brownells and is different from the spec-sheet http://www.smithenterprise.com/spec/Vortex_AK47AKM.pdf Link to post Share on other sites
Leo.Kermes 1 Posted February 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 "Left hand helical flutes will not loosen under sustained fire. Also, the self tightening design does not require the use of the standard AK-pattern front sight housing detent pin." - SMITH ENTERPRISE, INC Link to post Share on other sites
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jamesavery22 54 Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 For the bushing that comes with Kreb's AK74 style brake, thats supposed to be welded onto the end of the barrel? What threads does Kreb's brake have? Looking for a 14-1 LH to whatever Kreb's threading adapter Link to post Share on other sites
Leo.Kermes 1 Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 For the bushing that comes with Kreb's AK74 style brake, thats supposed to be welded onto the end of the barrel? What threads does Kreb's brake have? Looking for a 14-1 LH to whatever Kreb's threading adapter I don't know? your best bet will be to ask krebs. Link to post Share on other sites
vjor 2 Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 (edited) For the bushing that comes with Kreb's AK74 style brake, thats supposed to be welded onto the end of the barrel? What threads does Kreb's brake have? Looking for a 14-1 LH to whatever Kreb's threading adapter I don't know? your best bet will be to ask krebs. Screw the guns and muzzle brakes, who is that girl? Krebs adapter are 14-1LH x 24 mm, were do you saw it is welded? Edited February 26, 2008 by vjor Link to post Share on other sites
jamesavery22 54 Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 (edited) For the bushing that comes with Kreb's AK74 style brake, thats supposed to be welded onto the end of the barrel? What threads does Kreb's brake have? Looking for a 14-1 LH to whatever Kreb's threading adapter I don't know? your best bet will be to ask krebs. Screw the guns and muzzle brakes, who is that girl? Krebs adapter are 14-1LH x 24 mm, were do you saw it is welded? Thought bushings were threaded only on one side if threaded at all? Edited February 27, 2008 by jamesavery22 Link to post Share on other sites
gtnichols 51 Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 I like the 3rd, 4th and 5th ones down (pic below) and I always thought the ones with the cones looked cool Who's that girl,..that was a eurythmics song wasn't it? cute! :rolleyes: Link to post Share on other sites
dyi 0 Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 For the bushing that comes with Kreb's AK74 style brake, thats supposed to be welded onto the end of the barrel? What threads does Kreb's brake have? Looking for a 14-1 LH to whatever Kreb's threading adapter I don't know? your best bet will be to ask krebs. Screw the guns and muzzle brakes, who is that girl? Krebs adapter are 14-1LH x 24 mm, were do you saw it is welded? Thought bushings were threaded only on one side if threaded at all? I have a krebs 74 brake and adapter. Its threaded on both sides. Link to post Share on other sites
streetfrog1 0 Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Heres a ? for you guys. On my saige3 the front sight assy comes to the end of the barrel. I purchased the slip on/bolt down end to be able to put on any threaded 14:1 setup but it doesn't fit over the trunnion . How or what can I do to get it to work? Link to post Share on other sites
Leo.Kermes 1 Posted February 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Heres a ? for you guys. On my saige3 the front sight assy comes to the end of the barrel. I purchased the slip on/bolt down end to be able to put on any threaded 14:1 setup but it doesn't fit over the trunnion . How or what can I do to get it to work? can you re-phrase the question. I am not sure what you are asking. Link to post Share on other sites
Vultite 57 Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 (edited) TONY! you are da man!!! Edited February 29, 2008 by Vultite Link to post Share on other sites
Krom 36 Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 74 break... they work great. ....but only if they're designed after the real mccoy. The one pictured is only good for a 922r satisfying muzzle device (although I guess it would add some weight to the front of the rifle). A 'real' AK74 brake has an expansion chamber and staggered ports around the circumference. The above item only resembles a "real" Ak74 brake, with a very small percentage of the function of an actual '74 brake. It is also smaller than the actual AK74 brake. Actual AK74 brakes. Muzzle adapters are used to attach these to 14x1LH threads. These adapters are sold alongside the correct US made clones. How about the threaded one that Dinzag sells (I ordered it)? I'm a noobie to this stuff so... I've had quite a bit of experience with m16's and it's a top priority to get the most effective compensator that I can. So It'd be great if you could point me in that right direction. Link to post Share on other sites
Leo.Kermes 1 Posted March 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 74 break... they work great. ....but only if they're designed after the real mccoy. The one pictured is only good for a 922r satisfying muzzle device (although I guess it would add some weight to the front of the rifle). A 'real' AK74 brake has an expansion chamber and staggered ports around the circumference. The above item only resembles a "real" Ak74 brake, with a very small percentage of the function of an actual '74 brake. It is also smaller than the actual AK74 brake. Actual AK74 brakes. Muzzle adapters are used to attach these to 14x1LH threads. These adapters are sold alongside the correct US made clones. How about the threaded one that Dinzag sells (I ordered it)? I'm a noobie to this stuff so... I've had quite a bit of experience with m16's and it's a top priority to get the most effective compensator that I can. So It'd be great if you could point me in that right direction. If you have any questiong about Dinzag's work, just ask him. he is on the board. As for what is best, its is all about what you want to achieve. reduce felt recoil, reduce muzzle climb, reduce flash. And what you want to spend. Link to post Share on other sites
Krom 36 Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 If you have any questions about Dinzag's work, just ask him. he is on the board. As for what is best, its is all about what you want to achieve. reduce felt recoil, reduce muzzle climb, reduce flash. And what you want to spend. Yeah I guess I could do that, I'm a total newbie to the Saiga thing, and it seems like Dinzag has a really good rep and does great work. But I just kinda wanted a second opinion ya know? So any help you guys can give me will be greatly appreciated. What I'm looking for is a dramatic decrease in muzzle rise 1st, and 2nd less felt recoil. I don't really care about muzzle flash, I just want to be able to take very rapid and accurate follow up shots. Price is flexible. Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 (edited) What I'm looking for is a dramatic decrease in muzzle rise 1st, and 2nd less felt recoil. I don't really care about muzzle flash, I just want to be able to take very rapid and accurate follow up shots. Price is flexible. Not sure about "dramatic", but a quality clone of the Russian Ak74 muzzle brake will help with both (or if your parts count is amenable, use a surplus East German, Bulgarian or Russian one). Edited March 4, 2008 by nalioth Link to post Share on other sites
vjor 2 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 (edited) I go with a E-TAC brake on my .223 no muzzle raise. Not cheap a lot less recoil. On the AK 74 style Ak-usa and krebs make good stuff. I may thing in giving wakal a Pm or call to see if he can make a brake on 14-1 LH threats of his brake here you can look at his brake http://www.dreadnaught-industries.com/parts.htm latter on in my little life. Edited March 5, 2008 by vjor Link to post Share on other sites
gtnichols 51 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Here is my favorite so far For the S 12 of course. Link to post Share on other sites
sicktooth 8 Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 this one is my favorite...i also have a fixed krink stock coming to help out the look... http://www.copesdist.com/images/KR-009B.jpg Link to post Share on other sites
streetfrog1 0 Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 (edited) Heres a ? for you guys. On my saige3 the front sight assy comes to the end of the barrel. I purchased the slip on/bolt down end to be able to put on any threaded 14:1 setup but it doesn't fit over the trunnion . How or what can I do to get it to work? can you re-phrase the question. I am not sure what you are asking. Was tired so erase "trunnion" and insert "sight block" too much plowing not enough sleep! Ignore what I posted before. I ended up just buying a 14x1 die setup from DPH and threading the barrel. It was much easier except that you would think that for $50 you would get the handle to hold the die also, but Nope. Even after I cut the front sleeve off of the site block it wouldn't slide over it so it got threaded, Much better anyway. I also lucked out when doing my trigger conversion . When I took off the plate the correct trigger holes were already factory made Edited March 13, 2008 by streetfrog Link to post Share on other sites
getitat 609 Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Hello, Vjor My apologies if this is hijacking, but I got the following from the J-Tac folks about producing one in 24x1.5mm threading (for my Red Jacket AK-47 pistol) Hi Paul, The 24mm version is on the "to do" list - but it keeps getting bumped down for other projects. I would like to say I have an idea when we might do it - but truthfully I would have thought we would have done it by now. The best I can offer is to create an account on the website and select "notify me of new products" - and you will be notified when we finally get it done. Sorry I can't offer more. Please let me know if you have any more questions and have a great weekend. Todd Tuttle Primary Weapons Systems www.primaryweapons.com (208) 344-5217 So, if anybody else may be interested, drop 'em a line and maybe enough interest will get the ball rollin'... Respectfully posted, guido2 in Houston I go with a E-TAC brake on my .223 no muzzle raise. Not cheapa lot less recoil. On the AK 74 style Ak-usa and krebs make good stuff. I may thing in giving wakal a Pm or call to see if he can make a brake on 14-1 LH threats of his brake here you can look at his brake http://www.dreadnaught-industries.com/parts.htm latter on in my little life. Link to post Share on other sites
vjor 2 Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 Hello, VjorMy apologies if this is hijacking, but I got the following from the J-Tac folks about producing one in 24x1.5mm threading (for my Red Jacket AK-47 pistol) Hi Paul, The 24mm version is on the "to do" list - but it keeps getting bumped down for other projects. I would like to say I have an idea when we might do it - but truthfully I would have thought we would have done it by now. The best I can offer is to create an account on the website and select "notify me of new products" - and you will be notified when we finally get it done. Sorry I can't offer more. Please let me know if you have any more questions and have a great weekend. Todd Tuttle Primary Weapons Systems www.primaryweapons.com (208) 344-5217 So, if anybody else may be interested, drop 'em a line and maybe enough interest will get the ball rollin'... Respectfully posted, guido2 in Houston I go with a E-TAC brake on my .223 no muzzle raise. Not cheapa lot less recoil. On the AK 74 style Ak-usa and krebs make good stuff. I may thing in giving wakal a Pm or call to see if he can make a brake on 14-1 LH threats of his brake here you can look at his brake http://www.dreadnaught-industries.com/parts.htm latter on in my little life. Brother , The J-TAC brake has a problem the chamber is to small to accomplish full what is supposed to do, The brake that I have was made by E-TAC http://www.ipscgun.com/default.asp that is Esteban from Hawaii and was made to specs, is not just a drop in muzzle brake like a lot of commercial brakes it have to be run with a muzzle brake reamer cause close tolerances on the holes on the baffles plus the chamber are big to accomplish recoil and muzzle jump control. Must commercial brakes out there the holes on the baffles are to over size loosing complete control over recoil and muzzle jump and the chambers are to small to do the same. I will say E-TAC brake will tame any beast out there but like I say it have to be align with the bore with a Muzzle brake reamer to make sure the bullets passes true the brake no problems but that is what a good brake supposed to be, until U try one made like that is hard for people to really notice how recoil can be manage to like of a .22 and no muzzle jump at all. Now talking about other brake, Alex wakal makes one that I will try to get for a 7.62x39 but still talking to wakal and see what can be done, cause its brake is made for the AR15 and some stuff have to be change. Like I say is muzzle brakes and Muzzle brakes out there. Carlo. Link to post Share on other sites
getitat 609 Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Note to self: FINISH cup of coffee at 5:30 AM prior to posting replies........D'oh! guido2 in Houston Hello, VjorMy apologies if this is hijacking, but I got the following from the J-Tac folks about producing one in 24x1.5mm threading (for my Red Jacket AK-47 pistol) Hi Paul, The 24mm version is on the "to do" list - but it keeps getting bumped down for other projects. I would like to say I have an idea when we might do it - but truthfully I would have thought we would have done it by now. The best I can offer is to create an account on the website and select "notify me of new products" - and you will be notified when we finally get it done. Sorry I can't offer more. Please let me know if you have any more questions and have a great weekend. Todd Tuttle Primary Weapons Systems www.primaryweapons.com (208) 344-5217 So, if anybody else may be interested, drop 'em a line and maybe enough interest will get the ball rollin'... Respectfully posted, guido2 in Houston I go with a E-TAC brake on my .223 no muzzle raise. Not cheapa lot less recoil. On the AK 74 style Ak-usa and krebs make good stuff. I may thing in giving wakal a Pm or call to see if he can make a brake on 14-1 LH threats of his brake here you can look at his brake http://www.dreadnaught-industries.com/parts.htm latter on in my little life. Link to post Share on other sites
moxie1c 3 Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 I hope that I am not speaking out of line for Tony at Tromix, but here is an email conversation the two of us had. I might be moving to NY within the year and do not want to thread my barrel. Sometimes you do not know until you ask.... QUOTE ME Tony, I love your Shark Brake more than anything else but I do not want to chop and thread my barrell. Do you have any plans to release a brake that would fit over the existing "sleeve" of a Saiga barrell. It would be nice to have something that could be pinned and soldered onto the rifle. Take your time responding...lol, it is not like I have many other options when it comes to such a unique brake! Best regards, Moxie QUOTE Tony Yes, I can make you a smooth one, that you can bond in place using LocTite #620 Bearing mount. It will not come off. I need you to measure your barrel and give me the diameter to the closest 1,000ths. Tony Link to post Share on other sites
Indy4570 0 Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 I really like the idea of a slide over style brake for my S.308. a pin or a set screw or something. I know I can rent the stuff and do it myself but I still have to send the front sight to him so it can be bored out in order to do the threading. I don't want to be without my rifle for that long. There are stocks out there that give you apistol grip without moving the trigger guard. I might be a wuss but the damn thing shoots just fine out of the box. I need one Us part to make me happy. If I add a muzzle brake and it is a US part then I am still OK right? Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 I really like the idea of a slide over style brake for my S.308. a pin or a set screw or something. I know I can rent the stuff and do it myself but I still have to send the front sight to him so it can be bored out in order to do the threading. I don't want to be without my rifle for that long. There are stocks out there that give you apistol grip without moving the trigger guard. I might be a wuss but the damn thing shoots just fine out of the box. I need one Us part to make me happy. If I add a muzzle brake and it is a US part then I am still OK right? Any US part you add (that did not come with the rifle) will be fine. Just make sure you are in compliance if you use non-factory higher-capacity magazines. It's the barrel that needs threading, not the front sight block. Link to post Share on other sites
Indy4570 0 Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 (edited) yes, I understand that but the sight needs to be bored out so it will reside further back on the barrel. according to the instructions. I am working on getting at least one part so I can use the surefire mags. I was told the gun was compliant but it is not. I have the 8 rounder until I get a gas piston made in the US. Edited March 21, 2008 by Indy4570 Link to post Share on other sites
AgentLQ 3 Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 Where can you get the Tabuk Style hiders? Link to post Share on other sites
wally 2 Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 remember its a 7.62x39 not a 300 mag,dont get anal on this one it has no recoil,just get what will look tactacool at the range Link to post Share on other sites
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