cvhanh20 1,052 Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Jugg, Lonewolf was my first account on this forum, I changed it to Cameron Hadley because I know this will be easier for people to follow during the story of Chaos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvhanh20 1,052 Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Also thanks guys for the welcome, I know this has been hard on everyone involved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 PM inbound.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Cameron, just let Max know what profile you want bumped to contributor (Or whatever you all worked out) Looking forward to getting to know you... finally..... but, man.. it's late and I'm a gonna hit it! That grip is somthin else ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Welcome Cameron. Looking over some of your products, very positive thus far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zone1935 5 Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 If chaos is back in the "good graces" of those involved, I was wondering a couple of things. One, is the chaos parts currently on EBAY actual chaos brand parts sold by you. Second, the rail that is on your website looks sweet. Could we get picks of the different stages of the rails on saigas? The CGI on the site just don't "do it" for some of us Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvhanh20 1,052 Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 If chaos is back in the "good graces" of those involved, I was wondering a couple of things. One, is the chaos parts currently on EBAY actual chaos brand parts sold by you. Second, the rail that is on your website looks sweet. Could we get picks of the different stages of the rails on saigas? The CGI on the site just don't "do it" for some of us At this stage of things I really can't go into Chaos product info because I don't want to seem to be pushing Chaos here until the proper things have been done. On the other hand I will be shedding light very shortly on the birth of Chaos and the surrounding events. Thanks for your comment on the rail thats why I put the work I do into my products, to hear those kind of responses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zone1935 5 Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 If chaos is back in the "good graces" of those involved, I was wondering a couple of things. One, is the chaos parts currently on EBAY actual chaos brand parts sold by you. Second, the rail that is on your website looks sweet. Could we get picks of the different stages of the rails on saigas? The CGI on the site just don't "do it" for some of us At this stage of things I really can't go into Chaos product info because I don't want to seem to be pushing Chaos here until the proper things have been done. On the other hand I will be shedding light very shortly on the birth of Chaos and the surrounding events. Thanks for your comment on the rail thats why I put the work I do into my products, to hear those kind of responses. Ok, thought I would ask. If I need to wait, I wait. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted June 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Cameron is NOT the wraithmaker crew. This is NOT the enemy, this guy......... the samples I have (that I was told by owners of this site to not comment on) are superior. Your money is well spent with these parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted June 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 TEE HEE TEE HEE. These parts, guys, are SWEET. I give my 100% on them. No Bull. 100%. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Russian 0 Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Were all good jack.... Nothing against you or your post count either.As you can see, I ALWAYS got my helmet on..... Just if someone pisses down my back and tells me it's raining... I'm gonna call them on it. Fair Enough? as a Mod, I'm instructed to enforce certain rules. I may or may not even agree with them... None the less, I do what I'm asked to do. No one has worked harder to bring un wanted and un needed stress to a close around here either. I agree, the "tee hee... I got some dirt on you" just has got to go..... PLUS ONE!! (and I didn't just say that to see my post count go up.) REALLY........yeh, it does......LOL oh, hate to do it, but TEE HEE IM THE DISTRIBUTER AND YOU ARENT TEE HEE. (better stop, staff) TEE HEE TEE HEE THESE PARTS ARE FUCKING SWEET!!!!! TEE HEE TEE HEE!!!! ....mocking me...yeh.....dont bash this guy, his stuff is first rate. I put my reputation (whats left of it) on this product line. Guys, are these nice parts..........I shit you not. I honestly think this guy MAY ACTUALLY KNOW what he is doing, and is good at it......first rate, in my book. You should ALL have this grip I am looking at........... What are you talking about? Sorry, I'm new and can't really follow this... Is it parts or something other issue? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmax4x4 68 Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 (edited) Why are photos of the hand guard not available? Has none been made yet Or is it just all the BS on if it comes from WM or who ever? Or is it not in production yet? Show it to me baby Oh yea! Edited June 11, 2008 by madmax4x4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zone1935 5 Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 the front web page has a few photos now, just not enough "gun porn" for my taste. It does say "in it's final stages before production." From what i've read on the post, these guys got the high hard one from WM, just like alot of people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted June 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 for a PART, and a general gun part at that???? THIS IS THE BEST PART OF THIS TYPE THAT IVE SEEN TO DATE. This is made by Cameron, and sold under Chaos name...... I would not lie to you all...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted June 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 If chaos is back in the "good graces" of those involved, I was wondering a couple of things. One, is the chaos parts currently on EBAY actual chaos brand parts sold by you. Second, the rail that is on your website looks sweet. Could we get picks of the different stages of the rails on saigas? The CGI on the site just don't "do it" for some of us At this stage of things I really can't go into Chaos product info because I don't want to seem to be pushing Chaos here until the proper things have been done. On the other hand I will be shedding light very shortly on the birth of Chaos and the surrounding events. Thanks for your comment on the rail thats why I put the work I do into my products, to hear those kind of responses. I endorse Cameron, even with my damaged reputation, 110%...... Give him a chance, guys. I really have always given a crap, and this guy really does deserve our attention....My company may very well carry his parts on ALL of our guns, and you all do know who my partner is.....and how long ive been here..... You are missing the boat if you dont buy Chaos parts.....I can assure you of that much..... by the way, I am very happy to come full circle on this "ticket". I think the REAL maker is worth my time, as I suspected, and I sought to expose the real makers for what they are. ...buy these parts, guys..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted June 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 and oh, Im curious what you all think of chaos before I say any more..... ..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bayoupiper 738 Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 I will form my opinion based on Cameron and his products and not your say so, if you don't mind.......................... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 I will form my opinion based on Cameron and his products and not your say so, if you don't mind.......................... Perfectly stated! Cameron, I talked to Max and he said he will be calling you so he can be brought up to "speed" on everything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Or this Jerk Off!http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showuser=6678 Looks like someone tried to steal your identity!!! Dude, I HATE that guy......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Good parts sell themselves. Sometimes the absolute worst thing for a new company, can be when someone starts doing their best to shove the product down everyone's throats. Just an observation.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bayoupiper 738 Posted June 11, 2008 Report Share Posted June 11, 2008 Dude, I HATE that guy......... But the resemblence is uncanny! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted June 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 I will form my opinion based on Cameron and his products and not your say so, if you don't mind.......................... Why are you bothering to continue to read this thread then, or even commenting on what I say? By the way, werent you the one that suggested I have some of them in-hand to review, and that would be more helpful. Cobra - Im not shoving ANYTHING down anyone's throat, and you were given those parts to look at, comment to the maker on, given ALL the info to get in contact with them as well, and put up your thoughts to help fix the situation this guy is in because of our mutual "friend" the "wiggie-nuts". the 1400 in parts he sent us was as much for reviewal purposes as they were to demonstrate that he is a man of good nature, intentions, and skill. Anyway, I spoke with Cameron the other day for over an hour (him and I cannot seem to make a quick phone conversation happen, for some reason), and he did say that some new stuff would be coming out, and they are in the works, development stage, or are prototyped and almost ready to be produced. From the sounds of it, the new parts should be very well received by the public. I see that Max has a call in to him scheduled, so maybe that will bear some sort of understanding or fruit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Koliadko 207 Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Why are you bothering to continue to read this thread then, or even commenting on what I say? By the way, werent you the one that suggested I have some of them in-hand to review, and that would be more helpful. Cobra - Im not shoving ANYTHING down anyone's throat, and you were given those parts to look at, comment to the maker on, given ALL the info to get in contact with them as well, and put up your thoughts to help fix the situation this guy is in because of our mutual "friend" the "wiggie-nuts". the 1400 in parts he sent us was as much for reviewal purposes as they were to demonstrate that he is a man of good nature, intentions, and skill. I'd say posting 8 times between 12:50 and 3:30 is getting near 'shoving'. I know all those posts aren't still there but I get email notifications on this thread along with the original post. I know you also edited many of the ones you left up. You really ought to let Cameron and Max work the details out and let Cameron's product's stand on their own. Anyway, I spoke with Cameron the other day for over an hour (him and I cannot seem to make a quick phone conversation happen, for some reason), and he did say that some new stuff would be coming out, and they are in the works, development stage, or are prototyped and almost ready to be produced. From the sounds of it, the new parts should be very well received by the public. I see that Max has a call in to him scheduled, so maybe that will bear some sort of understanding or fruit. You can't seem to do that with Shannon either. Seems to be a guy thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Excuse me but I know exactly why I have these parts bvamp. And it has nothing AT ALL to do with me "fixing" ANYTHING or ANYBODY'S "situation"....or ANYTHING to do with your so called wiggie nuts. Unlike you, I am still trying to leave all that shit in the PAST. Get this through your head once and for all....It is NOT my fault that Cameron and those fucktards the wingnuts, wiggers, wiggies , or whatever they are, are in the situation they are in now. It is totally their own fault. At least Cameron is man enough to try and come here and fix that on his own. Can't you please just stay out of his way and let him do that? He doesn't need you to push his products. He sent those to US to evaluate and give feedback on. And it was because MAX asked him to....you didn't have a thing to do with it. Max told me that himself. You called Cameron on the phone and talked to him first, after telling us not to....you said that you should be the one to handle it. That's it. If I'm not mistaken, they are already on the market anyway. I hope our input will help change a few things if it is decided that they need changing. I have found at least one thing already that definitely should be changed. Now if you don't mind, we have work to do. I HAVE given my input ALREADY, to YOU and the other guys who are testing these parts, and like I said, and you saw, I have NOT finished yet. I will give my complete analysis when, and not a moment before, I am actually FINISHED. This has nothing to do with you. Please stay out it. Go off and do some testing of your on, instead of just blowing smoke up Cam's ass, and everyone else here. Would you like it if I just went ahead and pasted my premature findings right here in this thread? It doesn't matter. I will present my findings to Cameron HIMSELF, and it will be done privately unless HE specifies otherwise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted June 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 hahahah. thats funny, actually. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bayoupiper 738 Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Why are you bothering to continue to read this thread then, or even commenting on what I say? By the way, werent you the one that suggested I have some of them in-hand to review, and that would be more helpful. Yes, but that was before I knew what a drama queen you'd become. Cobra - Im not shoving ANYTHING down anyone's throat, and you were given those parts to look at, comment to the maker on, given ALL the info to get in contact with them as well, and put up your thoughts to help fix the situation this guy is in because of our mutual "friend" the "wiggie-nuts". the 1400 in parts he sent us was as much for reviewal purposes as they were to demonstrate that he is a man of good nature, intentions, and skill. I agree that you are not pushing the parts. But your past actions and attitudes make many of us suspect to your motives. Anyway, I spoke with Cameron the other day for over an hour (him and I cannot seem to make a quick phone conversation happen, for some reason), and he did say that some new stuff would be coming out, and they are in the works, development stage, or are prototyped and almost ready to be produced. From the sounds of it, the new parts should be very well received by the public. I see that Max has a call in to him scheduled, so maybe that will bear some sort of understanding or fruit. I know that other reputable gunsmiths and dealers speak to people like Cameron all the time and don't see the need to blow their own trumpet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bayoupiper 738 Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Excuse me but I know exactly why I have these parts bvamp. And it has nothing AT ALL to do with me "fixing" ANYTHING or ANYBODY'S "situation"....or ANYTHING to do with your so called wiggie nuts. Unlike you, I am still trying to leave all that shit in the PAST.Get this through your head once and for all....It is NOT my fault that Cameron and those fucktards the wingnuts, wiggers, wiggies , or whatever they are, are in the situation they are in now. It is totally their own fault. At least Cameron is man enough to try and come here and fix that on his own. Can't you please just stay out of his way and let him do that? He doesn't need you to push his products. He sent those to US to evaluate and give feedback on. And it was because MAX asked him to....you didn't have a thing to do with it. Max told me that himself. You called Cameron on the phone and talked to him first, after telling us not to....you said that you should be the one to handle it. That's it. If I'm not mistaken, they are already on the market anyway. I hope our input will help change a few things if it is decided that they need changing. I have found at least one thing already that definitely should be changed. Now if you don't mind, we have work to do. I HAVE given my input ALREADY, to YOU and the other guys who are testing these parts, and like I said, and you saw, I have NOT finished yet. I will give my complete analysis when, and not a moment before, I am actually FINISHED. This has nothing to do with you. Please stay out it. Go off and do some testing of your on, instead of just blowing smoke up Cam's ass, and everyone else here. Would you like it if I just went ahead and pasted my premature findings right here in this thread? It doesn't matter. I will present my findings to Cameron HIMSELF, and it will be done privately unless HE specifies otherwise. I wish I could have said it this well........................................... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
22_Shooter 1,560 Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Or this Jerk Off!http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showuser=6678 Looks like someone tried to steal your identity!!! Dude, I HATE that guy......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HogBlaster 0 Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Gezzz guys this isn't the place to compare foreskins, I'll give Chaos a chance, Lots of really cool stuff could be made for Saiga's a well fitting Rail forend would be a good start.I need to bolt on a flashlight / front grip to hammer the hell out of creatures in my trash cans at night. I've seen some of the systems put out by other Manufactures nothings really tickles my ass cheeks just yet. The more people making product the better, and the more choices we have! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Everything I have seen of Cameron's work is truly ....."beautiful"... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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