ernestmayhand 10 Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Not too familiar with sights so I'm wondering what difference there are between the krebs ghost ring sights and the hk sights? I need to make a decision as to which I want on my S12 and don't have a way to try them both out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 It's hard to beat the Krebs Ghost Ring for sight picture. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BuffetDestroyer 969 Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 It's hard to beat the Krebs Ghost Ring for sight picture. I don't have the HK sights, but the I will second what Bob said... The picture on my Saiga with the ghost ring is intuitive and easy. It creates a ring around another ring (the front sight guard is rounded) with an AR15 four-prong post in the middle. A side note: Adjusting the Kreb's sight post (stock A2 style) was hard as hell to get started since mine was all the way down when I recieved it. The tolerances were so tight that I needed a jeweler's screw driver to adjust the post up and down because there was no gap around it and the indentations were so small on the sight post. As an additional option, I would also look into Dinzag's sights as he has one that is similar to the Krebs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
topmaul 42 Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 (edited) Krebs no doubt but to make it even better get a KNS cross hair front sight, to replace the AR front sight post. I know otherrs differ on this but the HK is attached to the dust cover the dust cover is not securly mounted ie it moves, that could throw off your slug shots by a lot. Go with the Krebs and up grade it with a KNS Cross hair front sight that is a tough combination to beat. http://www.coloradoshooting.org/kns.htm I use this on my AR also Edited June 24, 2008 by topmaul Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joelrod47 373 Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 I have one of each, and I like the Ghost Ring better.............. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 I also have both. For shooting at something I prefer the Krebs; the HK will work but not as well. The HK does have it all over the Krebs in the Panaché department IMO. 1911 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ernestmayhand 10 Posted June 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Installation isn't a problem (Tromix is doing this) so mainly just wondering along the lines of functionality. I like the Krebs idea of a small circle within a circle. How do the HK sights function? And is the difference also in where they're mounted on the gun? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Although pricey, an extra $120, the HK XS sight systems setup is hard to beat. You get a ghost ring at the back, close to your eye, with a hooded tritium front. Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunz4Fun 0 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Just hoping this is not an either/or thread, but looking for the best sight.If so, I will chime in.? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gtnichols 51 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Does theKNS Duplex screw into the front raised Krebs sight in place of the original peice? Are the threads the same? Thanks, Krebs no doubt but to make it even better get a KNS cross hair front sight, to replace the AR front sight post. I know otherrs differ on this but the HK is attached to the dust cover the dust cover is not securly mounted ie it moves, that could throw off your slug shots by a lot. Go with the Krebs and up grade it with a KNS Cross hair front sight that is a tough combination to beat. http://www.coloradoshooting.org/kns.htm I use this on my AR also Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mscottrogers 56 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 I always wondered if you took one of the holes on the hk site and bored it out to the same diameter as a ghost ring site,if you would have the best of both worlds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 I've got the KNS hooded crosshair post in my Krebs sight and while it works great I gotta say, its just about impossible to get a good grip on it to screw it in between the "ears" of the front sight. Its an extremely tight fit, I think this may be because I got the hooded post instead of the regular version. The hooded post is a bit thicker and leaves almost no clearance to get it screwed all the way in. Major PIA. Anybody else have this issue? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HarvKY 72 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 I've been wanting a KNS sight post for my Krebs but would like to see what it looks like installed on a Saiga. Can ANYONE please post pic(s) of their Saiga with a KNS addition ? Cheers, HarvKY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 (edited) OK, lets see if I can get this pic thing to work. Sorry about the crappy pic, didn't take it intending to show the crosshairs. http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/L...ns/IMG_0190.jpg Remember this is the hooded version; it has a thicker protective hood than the regular version. Also I mistakenly got the Duplex version (has a vertically adjustable dot) which is great for a rifle but seems pretty unecessary on a shottie. I was originally going to sight the crosshairs for shot and the dot for slugs but after experimenting a bit I think this proved unfeasible. Edited June 25, 2008 by DistalRadius Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 (edited) Edited June 25, 2008 by BobAsh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gunz4Fun 0 Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Although pricey, an extra $120, the HK XS sight systems setup is hard to beat. You get a ghost ring at the back, close to your eye, with a hooded tritium front. Tony Love to see that and maybe get one set up from you like that for playtime. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Thanks for fixing my pic, Bob. I'll get the hang of this sooner or later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ernestmayhand 10 Posted June 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Does anybody have a picture looking through the HK's or Krebs Ghost Ring's? The HK XS sight system Tony mentioned does sound nice, but I'd like to see what the other two setups offer. The pros vs. cons on the HK sight being on the dust cover but close to your eye has got me even more undecided now too HK XS Sight System Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ilsrwy27 0 Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 (edited) Where does the rear HK XS Sight system ring mount? On the receiver or in place of the original Saiga rear sight?!? Is the HK XS compatible with a top gas tube welded rail?!? Anybody has a pic of a gun with that system on? Edited July 2, 2008 by ilsrwy27 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
USP40 1 Posted July 2, 2008 Report Share Posted July 2, 2008 XS rear (H&K) sight is really an upgrade sight. You have to weld HK sight base on your reciever cover first. here is Tony HK sight set Tony HK sight If you look at the picture you will see what I mean. rear sight here is the XS sight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 OK. Here's some better pictures of the KNS crosshair sight post in a Krebs front sight tower. Please remember that this version is the Hooded Duplex. Hooded meaning the ring is thicker. Duplex meaning it has an adjustable dot in addition to the crosshairs. If I could do it again, I'd just get the regular crosshairs. The Duplex dot is about useless for S-12 and the thickness of the Hooded ring makes it a bear to install completely. To be honest I'm not completely sure I've got it in all the way. Notice the scratches on the top of the post? Very little clearance around the "ears" of the sight tower. Oh, and keep in mind that you're trying to depress the front sight detent pin at the same time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Ooo-kay, well for whatever weird reasons I cannot seem to be able to upload the last two pics. Odd. Oh well, anyway heres a link to photobucket to see what the sight picture looks like with the KNS post. http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/L...ns/IMG_0367.jpg http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/L...ns/IMG_0368.jpg Side note: You know, I just realized something; I think this may be the first post where I actually had something useful to contribute. I may have actually even helped someone. Feels kinda good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gtnichols 51 Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Hah! I went and bought the same set up at your reccomendations! I had a hard time getting the double hooded KNS cross hairs in the Krebs front too, I had to make a special tool out of aluminum. It is pretty sweet! Thanks for the advice! I am digging it. Mine did not have the adjuster on top just smooth round, but it turns up and down,. and the Krebs is adjustable left to right,.. Field report is in order here,.. Ooo-kay, well for whatever weird reasons I cannot seem to be able to upload the last two pics. Odd. Oh well, anyway heres a link to photobucket to see what the sight picture looks like with the KNS post.http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/L...ns/IMG_0367.jpg http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/L...ns/IMG_0368.jpg Side note: You know, I just realized something; I think this may be the first post where I actually had something useful to contribute. I may have actually even helped someone. Feels kinda good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
topmaul 42 Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 My Krebs/KNS fit but it was tight, now my KNS is one my AR-15 because I put my Krebs on my son's Saiga because he had that stupid rail thing and was complaining, I did put the plastic Tapco orange front sight in there for him. What I don't like about front sight posts is that some times I would sight in on a brush guard not the post so something had to be done. Same with my Saiga Rifles so I ordered the AK front sight post kit form Tapco via Blackjackbuffers.com now that problem went away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerrytofdallas 1 Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Although pricey, an extra $120, the HK XS sight systems setup is hard to beat. You get a ghost ring at the back, close to your eye, with a hooded tritium front. Tony Ditto +1 I have XS on both my 8" & 12" S17's and really is hard to beat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HarvKY 72 Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Ooo-kay, well for whatever weird reasons I cannot seem to be able to upload the last two pics. Odd. Oh well, anyway heres a link to photobucket to see what the sight picture looks like with the KNS post.http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/L...ns/IMG_0367.jpg http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee129/L...ns/IMG_0368.jpg Side note: You know, I just realized something; I think this may be the first post where I actually had something useful to contribute. I may have actually even helped someone. Feels kinda good. THANX for the great pics. Ive beenn holding off getting one b/c I wasnt sure what it would look like Cheers, HarvKY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 No problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ilsrwy27 0 Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 XS rear (H&K) sight is really an upgrade sight. You have to weld HK sight base on your reciever cover first. here is Tony HK sight set Tony HK sight If you look at the picture you will see what I mean. rear sight here is the XS sight Thanks, that is a great setup! Which one of the two option does Tony/Tromix use? I think I prefer the upper HK MP5 but both look great to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ernestmayhand 10 Posted July 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Went out with the new Krebs Ghost Ring sights this last weekend and am impressed. I consider myself a novice still and have only shot slugs with my Mossberg with the bead sight and of course my Saiga with the factory sights so being able to look down the barrel through these Kreb's and hit a soda can at about 40 yards felt real nice. I'll post pics when I get a chance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kellysguy 1 Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 Does KNS make one that'll fit standard AK threads? I've searched but found inconclusiive results. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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