Doerdie 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 EAA wrote me back this afternoon, this is their reply: remington is not handling saiga, and we are no longer importing as well, not sure who will import saiga Thats pretty back and white. I know something was up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyJ 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Did they say why they won't be importing any more? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doerdie 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Nope, what I posted was their complete reply, nothing more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pistonring8 1 Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Oh my! This is serious! We are on the brink of the Saiga's extinction? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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pistonring8 1 Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Oh man, Not enough time....Im gonna have to sell a kidney to buy up all the Saiga rifles before they start to dry up. Although two months ago at the Harrisburg gun show there were literally PILES of them for $179.00 a piece long and short barreled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smiley_Guy 2 Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Here's the email I got from EAA this morning. Read it and weap. "we droped the izhmash line for various reasons, it will come back just not sure who will carry it" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyJ 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Anybody have a contact e-mail for Izhmash themselves? Let's let them know that we do want them to continue selling to the USA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jtoddellis 2 Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 I tried to e-mail Ihzmash once awhile back about hig caps for the .308 but my e-mail was returned undeliverable. I got the address from their web sight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlenderWizard 12 Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Anybody have a contact e-mail for Izhmash themselves? Let's let them know that we do want them to continue selling to the USA. They'll find an importer for sure. Someone would have to be an idiot to let that goldmine go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyJ 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 itc@izhmash.ru Sent about an hour ago, hasn't bounced back yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
k_dawg 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 This is a sad day indeed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolverine 10,360 Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Unfortunately, this is what I suspected was in the making. Importers strategy may be shifting with the sunset law. Why import the Saiga as a sporting arm at rock bottom proces when you can import other more profitable lines under the curent law? We can kiss the hi-caps good bye. Watch the prices on the Saiga's. It's the law of supply and demand. Dunham's is asking full price right now. I doubt we will see them again for $179 to $199. Folks will be looking to scarf up what is left. As for the comment someone will pick up the line. Factories only produce what importers, distributers and retailers demand. If Remington believes the Saiga was eroding it's margins on conventional and more expensive guns the Saiga will disappear. Even if they perceive a market we are in for a hefty price increase. My advice is if you can get your hands on one now at a decent price do so. This is worse than a corporate shake up. You can always find another job. But we may never be able to find a new Saiga. Woe, woe, woe!!! Now the good news. If supply drops, and demand remains, the value of our rifles also increases. Makes me glad I bought two at $199. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
k_dawg 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 I agree. Even if you pay full boat for the expensive ACE folder ( as I, and others did ).. the Saiga still comes in alot cheaper than many "reworked" Maaidi, Romak etc. I wonder how this affects those that import/mod the Saiga base rifles.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glennb 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 (edited) Maybe someone like a Krebs will be the importer the same way Robinson brings the VEPR into the country. I don't know how much more you could get for a Saiga even though it is a true Russian AK. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall during the process leading up to the EAA decision. I am glad the Saiga is not part of the Remington deal though. Edited January 3, 2005 by glennb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doerdie 0 Posted January 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 (edited) I agree, Remington would probably jack the price to 300-350. I wonder what it takes to get an import license....hmmmm. Saiga by Doerdie has a nice ring to it! Saiga does have alot over the other brands...shotguns, .308 caliber. If Krebs does start I just hope they don't bastardize them...I'd rather do that myself! (added thought) Edited January 3, 2005 by Doerdie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ross Man 0 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 I just bought my third 7.62 Saiga! Dunham's is having a sale; $25 off any $150-$399 rifle. The Saiga was listed at $229.95....so I got it for $204.99 plus tax...$217.29 OTD....$5 more than the first Saiga I bought from Dunhams on Memorial Day. I ordered a Saiga 12 from CDNN this morning. I was also going to order another 7.62 from them if shipping was reasonable. However, they are out of them! SOG has them listed in their flyer for $169.95. They have a 2% charge for credit cards. I called this afternoon and they do have a few in stock. After shipping and transfer fees I would have saved approx. $12-$14 ordering from SOG. However, my local FFL would have had to call SOG to let them know I could be on his account and charge my credit card. He works during the day. Or I could have mailed a money order and hoped they still had some left. It just wasn't worth the hassle. I also don't mind giving the local Dunham's some business if it is only a little more. Get them while you can!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolverine 10,360 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 I just had a nightmare. What if Century Arms buys up the Saiga line? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pistonring8 1 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 How dare you even joke around about something like that. Besides, Hesse might beat them to it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glennb 0 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 <I just had a nightmare. What if Century Arms buys up the Saiga line?> "I wonder where we should pin punch our import mark, eh?" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smiley_Guy 2 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 now I wonder if converting my Saiga will hurt it's resale value. I really like it but I guess I could part with this rare virgin collector's item for, say. $895??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolverine 10,360 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Naw, I wouldn't sell mine. I am going shoot the damn things until they need parts and can't be found or cost a fortune. Then I look for the next sleeper to play with. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brian33x51 1 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Naw, I wouldn't sell mine. I am going shoot the damn things until they need parts and can't be found or cost a fortune. Then I look for the next sleeper to play with. Perhaps AIM or someone could start importing these? That would be cool. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TWGLADF 0 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 WOW everybody sounds so surprised. me and a handful of others have only been telling everybody here that this was taking place for what, about 3 weeks now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolverine 10,360 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Somehow the masses often miss the towncrier. It's not until reality bites (no .308's available and others dwindling) that we begin to wake up to "yes, it is true). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doerdie 0 Posted January 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 I figured it was happening when I waited almost 2 months for a .308. But that line about the Skelotonized stocks put a bit of doubt in my head, so I e-mailed them! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolverine 10,360 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 That's what does not figure. EAA had posted on their sight the Saiga was coming out with a skeleton stock. I assumed as an option. EAA knew they were not going to be importing anymore so why the ad on the new stock? What do they know that we don't? Something just doesn't add up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doerdie 0 Posted January 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 That news was put up before the jerkoff killed those hunters, I think that is what drove the decision somehow. EAA made a mistake if thats why, since the press laid the blame on an SKS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TWGLADF 0 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 as far as eaa releasing misinformation, it seems to be their reputation. the 308 20 rounders, the 270 and 3006 saigas, the saiga 100, etc, etc, etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolverine 10,360 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Good point. As reliable as the word of some employers. All bullshitski!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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