TonyRumore 1,332 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 http://www.hunt101.com/showphoto.php?photo=237378 Here is a pic of the completed Tromix prototype shorty Saiga, sans refinish. See the for sale board for pricing on complete Tromix Saiga shotguns as well as pricing on the Tromix Saiga mods that we can do on customer owned guns. Tony Rumore Tromix Corp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnnymceldoo 0 Posted January 4, 2005 Report Share Posted January 4, 2005 Nice! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Very nice! G O B Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 nice tony. are you upping your price now that you cant get any more saigas? at least for the time being? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted January 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 I have no plans to raise the price. If I can't get anymore guns, I will simply do the conversions on customer supplied guns. That works much better for my cash flow anyway. I only built 10ea up front because I am the new guy on the Saiga block and want everyone to know that I am serious about building these guns. It's not just a single prototype deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 ah, good point tony. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lithium 0 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 that is fucking kick ass! how much to trick out my saiga? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steven 0 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 will you sell the flash hiders seperate??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted January 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 I am assuming that you are talking about modifying a Title 1 Saiga, ie 18" gun. I would still suggest doing all the shorty mods and cutting the barrel back to about 15.5" and then add a permanent flash hider to put it at 18" overall, so the cost would be about the same as doing a 12" gun. Picatinney rail $85 Vertical Grip $40 HK Sights $150 Flash Hider 49 Tactical Light $100 The basic conversion, ie ACE folder, SAW grip, U.S. fire controls, Tromix cold weather trigger guard and shorty gas system components would run $466 plus freight. If you just want to leave the barrel at 18", we do not need to rebuild the gas system, the the basic conversion cost would drop to $335. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted January 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 I will sell the flash hiders seperately for the same $49 price. I would suggest just using red locktite and bond them on, but if you want it threaded 7/8x28tpi, I can do that at no additional cost. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lithium 0 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 I would like to purchess a flash supressor and the tatical light from you if you would also sell that seperate. if you would sell them to me how would we go about doing that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 tony's info can be found in this other thread in the for sale area of the forum.... http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=2865 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted January 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Just call me at the Tromix shop 9-5 M-F central time at 918 251-5640 and we can work out whatever you need. We can get 10 times more accomplished in half the time while talking on the phone than we can typing back and forth on the net. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diggler 0 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 (edited) Is the red loctite that sturdy, that it will hold up under continued recoil?? Also, I know that you remove loctite using heat... so if the barrel gets hot, could the flash hider slide off? Edited January 5, 2005 by Diggler Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted January 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 I assure you, the red loctite will NEVER let go under recoil. You can put a three foot long pipe wrench on the hider and you will spin the barrel into a corkscrew before the hider comes off. But, for those disbelievers, I can certainly thread them on, not a problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mickporno 0 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 can we get a closer look at those HK sights and the Flash hider as well?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyJ 0 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 How is the light attached? Might want to get just the mount and stick a surefire in it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted January 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 I will get some close up pics shortly of the entire gun and parts from various angles. The Tac Star light came with a simple clamp-on mount when I bought it. If you have a Surefire, fobus makes a mount of $20 that will bolt up to a picatinney rail. I don't think your Surefire will stand up to the recoil of the Saiga. I had one of their $500 AR-15 foregrip/light assemblies on an AR-15 in .458 SOCOM and it broke the bulb with the first shot. Surefire told me it was not designed to withstand that kind of recoil, and the SOCOM recoils quite a bit less than a Saiga. I am sure someone sells those simple clamp-on mounts for shotguns. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyJ 0 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 I'd like to find something that doesn't clamp onto the barrel though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steven 0 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 (edited) I would want to have in perm. attached so i could cut the barrel down so that it and the barrel are 18.25" how long a barrel is your little widow maker anyways ? Edited January 5, 2005 by Steven Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smithy5160 0 Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 i am really interested, this is the 12 guage, now can you do more customized work so i dont have to buy all the parts? i just bouht a 308 so i dont want to spend all my money at once like i want the front grip, side folding stock, flash hider, and ill wait on the light and sights to save some money. can you re use the original sights for now? and does this comply with all the US laws regarding assault shotguns? thanks smith329@purdue.edu Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bvamp 604 Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 purdue? jeese, what are you studying there smithy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted January 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 The basic gun runs $695. The picatinney rail, vertical grip, HK sights, flash hider, and tactical light are extra. You can use the original vent rib sight just fine. It has the correct U.S. parts count. Here is a pic of all the guns awaiting test fire. All but 2ea are sold. http://www.hunt101.com/showphoto.php?photo=238802 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jtf979 0 Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Tony, I already converted my Saiga-12 to pistol grip configuration and added a Tapco G2 FCG. How much would it be if I sent it to you to cut it back to 15.5" and add a flash hider for 18" total length? How are these guns patterning without chokes on them? Thanks, James Quote Link to post Share on other sites
swiftvision 0 Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Tony, I already converted my Saiga-12 to pistol grip configuration and added a Tapco G2 FCG. How much would it be if I sent it to you to cut it back to 15.5" and add a flash hider for 18" total length? How are these guns patterning without chokes on them? Thanks, James You will have to mess with the gas system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted January 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2005 It would run $385 to tear it apart, add the Tromix shorty gas system parts and cut the whole thing back to 15.5" and add the flash hider. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ak47dan2004 0 Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 Tromax you are a genius could you please share your knowledge on how you shortened the gas tube. I just got a saiga 12 for my birthday and I was wondering if you had to drill new holes for the gas to escape, how much longer the gas tube needs to be compared to the piston what i should and shouldnt do so that it will cycle correctly . And out of curiosity do you thing I could use a standard ak gas tubes and stuff. If you have pictures or just a special way to do please please help. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ForGreatJustice 1 Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 If Tony shares his trade secrets with the Saiga gas system, he'll put himself out of a job, won't he? It's one thing for us weekend hackers to bounce ideas back and forth the develop a product. It's another for a working gunsmith to share valuable intellectual property that he spent a long time accumulating. Just my 0.02$, no offense to anyone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TonyRumore 1,332 Posted January 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 It's not really an issue sharing info with a weekend gunsmithing warrior, but the net is wide up to everyone, including other competing gunsmiths. I will let them figure out how to do the shorty gas system on their own. In general, just cut out a section of the gas system, and weld everything back together. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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