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Liberalism is a form of mental illness, particularly in extreme cases. It involves the almost total denial of logic and reason and works strictly from an emotional level. That is why you can not have

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What if you haven't liked the last 100 years? Or maybe the last 170 years since Lincoln started a war causing 600k Americans to die and create a firm grip on central government? You can't deny that i

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Did she cry? Liberals tend to do so, when they don't get their way. Another tactic is to put words in your mouth, I was just having a discussion with a Liberal who tried that one; he figured because I disagreed with him, I must agree with all the "extremists".

 

If someone stops being a friend, because you have a different opinion, they probably weren't much of a friend to start with.

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The only thing more closed-minded than a liberal is a liberal woman. It's no secret that once a woman has made up her mind, that's the end of it. Combine that with closed-minded liberalism and it's pretty easy to see where that road leads.

 

Yeah, women suck!

Hey...Wait a minute...

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Only a few.

 

Yeah, women suck!

Hey...Wait a minute...

 

Most women that I know are smart and can articulate a position with out any of the above tactics. She did not cry but their was plenty of putting words in my mouth. Then she said I did that to her. I was some what dumfounded by that. Lots of yelling as well.

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The only thing more closed-minded than a liberal is a liberal woman. It's no secret that once a woman has made up her mind, that's the end of it. Combine that with closed-minded liberalism and it's pretty easy to see where that road leads.

 

Yeah, women suck!

 

Only the good ones...

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Liberalism is a form of mental illness, particularly in extreme cases. It involves the almost total denial of logic and reason and works strictly from an emotional level. That is why you can not have a debate where logic and reason has any meaning with them. These types of people flock to anyone that claims that they can make everything alright, no matter how ridiculous the claim is! That is why the Democratic party is loaded with them, not that the Republicans do not have their share of loonies, they just tend to go in another direction.

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This is why I only talk about politics with friends who have their heads out of their asses, i.e. conservatives. When I'm around those few liberals who I would consider friends, I avoid political discussion altogether. I simply refuse to participate because I know it'd lead to an experience like yours.

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When around friends, avoid discussion and debate in topics where no one can be right or wrong... namely religion and politics.

 

It is the deep-seated, sub-conscious knowledge that no one is right that causes people to become overly emotional when discussing these topics... emotional to the point of irrationality. Can't win, can't lose, why stir up shit, especially with your friends.

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When around friends, avoid discussion and debate in topics where no one can be right or wrong... namely religion and politics.

 

It is the deep-seated, sub-conscious knowledge that no one is right that causes people to become overly emotional when discussing these topics... emotional to the point of irrationality. Can't win, can't lose, why stir up shit, especially with your friends.

You both are right. I use to live by that golden rule. This is what I get for ignoring it.

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:haha: LMAO! Death camps... really? No offense, but your post is a huge fail. No one else is gonna tell you this bro, but you shouldn't just surround yourself with people who agree with you. DEATH CAMPS! :haha:

 

I had a Jewish teacher in grade school who was a child in a German death camp. Lost him Mom and Dad. His family help the national socialist party at first. They believed in its underlying principles. He only ever talked about it once to our class and that was on the first day of class. He always said to always stand vigilante agents socialism. I study socialism most of my adult life. Its a sick hobby and how I stay vigilant. Every socialist government that had gained power has some kind of a death camp. In UK and Canada is the hospitals where they let the sick and the elderly die because they cant afford it and have out lived their usefulness. Its a nice death camp, they may even give you pain meds to ease your death (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/5955840/Patients-forced-to-live-in-agony-after-NHS-refuses-to-pay-for-painkilling-injections.html) and feed you from time to time if its fits into their day (http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/healthofthenhs/NHS-wastes-250k-on-uneaten.5391050.jp), but its a death camp non the less. In the USSR they just let a 100 million people starve to death. What form will the death camps take hear? I don't know and hope to never find out.

 

As to surrounding my self with like minded people. Your hear. I have (too many) other liberal friends as well.

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I have observed that most liberals are simply wired to treat politics as religion, and religion as politics. To begin to understand liberals one has to wrap the mind around the fact that for most liberals - Liberalism is a belief system, and not a point of view developed or derived from life experience or logical thought.

 

While most of us tend to have positions on a range of issues we have thought about, and about which we have reached our own conclusions, the true Liberal lives within a very narrow set of political and sociological constraints beyond which they cannot venture without being shunned, ridiculed, and dismissed by their community (much like Amish shunning or "Meidung", but infinitely more painful). In fact a shunned Amishman or woman probably has a better chance of regaining acceptance from the "Gemeinde" than a fallen liberal has of regaining the confidence of their comrades on the left.

 

Oh man, you've got me going now! In the American vernacular "Liberal" has completely ceased to mean open minded, thoughtful, or in any way progressive, and is every day becoming more and more synonymous with Socialism - an ideal under which individual rights are always trumped by communal rights as interpreted (dictated) by the state.

 

We have entered into an era where we live in some bizarro world version of America where the Speaker of the House of Representatives characterizes free speech as "unamerican", and where anyone who does not agree with the "liberal" agenda is labeled as a NAZI, or put on a list of potential terrorists. Even Hillary choked on that one!

 

Here's a little history lesson... While the liberal elite would like to paint the NAZI's as heartless fascists, they were in fact dedicated socialists, opposed to a multi party system, and convinced that THEY knew better than ANYONE what was best for the world. They squashed free speech, eliminated opposing political parties, disarmed the population, and assumed the position of arbiters of who was worthy of life, and who needed to die.

 

Sound familiar?

 

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No and married.

 

Look at Eva Longoria then. I know when I'm feeling down, she picks me up. post-88-12531446757717.gif :wub:

 

Just remember, under the skin of just about any hollywood hotty, you are likely to find this...

 

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I think I found this in a printable targets thread.

 

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No and married.

 

Look at Eva Longoria then. I know when I'm feeling down, she picks me up. post-88-12531446757717.gif :wub:

 

Just remember, under the skin of just about any hollywood hotty, you are likely to find this...

 

post-18546-12532206172546_thumb.jpg

 

I think I found this in a printable targets thread.

 

WS

 

 

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No and married.

 

Look at Eva Longoria then. I know when I'm feeling down, she picks me up. post-88-12531446757717.gif :wub:

 

Just remember, under the skin of just about any hollywood hotty, you are likely to find this...

 

post-18546-12532206172546_thumb.jpg

 

I think I found this in a printable targets thread.

 

Or maybe it was this one.... I can't remember.

 

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WS

 

WS

 

 

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:haha: LMAO! Death camps... really? No offense, but your post is a huge fail. No one else is gonna tell you this bro, but you shouldn't just surround yourself with people who agree with you. DEATH CAMPS! :haha:

 

I had a Jewish teacher in grade school who was a child in a German death camp. Lost him Mom and Dad. His family help the national socialist party at first. They believed in its underlying principles. He only ever talked about it once to our class and that was on the first day of class. He always said to always stand vigilante agents socialism. I study socialism most of my adult life. Its a sick hobby and how I stay vigilant. Every socialist government that had gained power has some kind of a death camp. In UK and Canada is the hospitals where they let the sick and the elderly die because they cant afford it and have out lived their usefulness. Its a nice death camp, they may even give you pain meds to ease your death (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/5955840/Patients-forced-to-live-in-agony-after-NHS-refuses-to-pay-for-painkilling-injections.html) and feed you from time to time if its fits into their day (http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/healthofthenhs/NHS-wastes-250k-on-uneaten.5391050.jp), but its a death camp non the less. In the USSR they just let a 100 million people starve to death. What form will the death camps take hear? I don't know and hope to never find out.

 

As to surrounding my self with like minded people. Your hear. I have (too many) other liberal friends as well.

 

 

There is a *HUGE* difference between the Nazi ideology and the generally center-left politics of Obama. That aside, I live in Moscow Idaho as well, you should come shooting with us some time.

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:haha: LMAO! Death camps... really? No offense, but your post is a huge fail. No one else is gonna tell you this bro, but you shouldn't just surround yourself with people who agree with you. DEATH CAMPS! :haha:

 

I had a Jewish teacher in grade school who was a child in a German death camp. Lost him Mom and Dad. His family help the national socialist party at first. They believed in its underlying principles. He only ever talked about it once to our class and that was on the first day of class. He always said to always stand vigilante agents socialism. I study socialism most of my adult life. Its a sick hobby and how I stay vigilant. Every socialist government that had gained power has some kind of a death camp. In UK and Canada is the hospitals where they let the sick and the elderly die because they cant afford it and have out lived their usefulness. Its a nice death camp, they may even give you pain meds to ease your death (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/5955840/Patients-forced-to-live-in-agony-after-NHS-refuses-to-pay-for-painkilling-injections.html) and feed you from time to time if its fits into their day (http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/healthofthenhs/NHS-wastes-250k-on-uneaten.5391050.jp), but its a death camp non the less. In the USSR they just let a 100 million people starve to death. What form will the death camps take hear? I don't know and hope to never find out.

 

As to surrounding my self with like minded people. Your hear. I have (too many) other liberal friends as well.

 

 

There is a *HUGE* difference between the Nazi ideology and the generally center-left politics of Obama. That aside, I live in Moscow Idaho as well, you should come shooting with us some time.

 

I am totaly up for that. I just got all me parts back and my saiga is back in working order. I don't think my keep still works for the gun club range out on lindvil road but we could give it a shot this saterday. I will send you a PM.

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I had a friend once say that if you ever came to an agreement with someone or felt you were getting along well with someone... it's only because you don't know them well enough yet.

 

Problem with arguing without ground rules and boundaries is that someone always gets hurt. I'm sure your friend will chill out and with time this will become one of those funny ha-ha moments when you realized you were in swinging 3some with Obama.

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Here's a little history lesson... While the liberal elite would like to paint the NAZI's as heartless fascists, they were in fact dedicated socialists, opposed to a multi party system, and convinced that THEY knew better than ANYONE what was best for the world. They squashed free speech, eliminated opposing political parties, disarmed the population, and assumed the position of arbiters of who was worthy of life, and who needed to die.

 

Sound familiar?

 

Goddam right - it sounds EXACTLY like the last 8 years!

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Here's a little history lesson... While the liberal elite would like to paint the NAZI's as heartless fascists, they were in fact dedicated socialists, opposed to a multi party system, and convinced that THEY knew better than ANYONE what was best for the world. They squashed free speech, eliminated opposing political parties, disarmed the population, and assumed the position of arbiters of who was worthy of life, and who needed to die.

 

Sound familiar?

 

Goddam right - it sounds EXACTLY like the last 8 years!

 

Can you give me one example where president Bush told a protester of any sort to shut up? I think you would be even hard pressed to find a fringe Republican who told protester to shut up. Can you name any republican regulations, policy, or legislation the was implemented or proposed in the last 8 years to limit free speech? How about Department of homeland security briefing labeling average Americans as terrorist for protesting and owning guns? Wops, that was president Obama, I forgot we where talking about the last 8 years and that everything that democrats do is as pure as the driven snow.

 

You may think that the above make me a Bush supporter. Let me assure you my support is limited for anyone who drive up the deficit, builds massive government programs, and is a democrat light. I just get tired of people accusing him of stuff he never did.

 

People keep tossing fascism and president Bush together hear is a definition.

fascism - A political regime, usually totalitarian, ideologically based on centralized government, government control of business, repression of criticism or opposition, a leader cult and exalting the state and/or religion above individual rights. :smoke:

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