Boba Debt 350 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 And expecting a different result. I don't get how sellers on Gunbroker.com can afford to list the same auction 5+ times. If the gun didn't sell for $679 after the third time I would think about lowering the price. I have noticed some sellers actually increase the price. I just don't get the logic behind it. How much does it cost to re-list something on GB for 500+ dollars? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spartacus 1,619 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 >>I have noticed some sellers actually increase the price. That's a sales technique that actually works sometimes. It's all about perceived value. The sellers that are posting the high prices repeatedly do so because they are fishing for newbies. They know that they are many of them out there that have no idea what the true value of the item is. I prefer sellers that stick with reasonable mark-ups. It's an auction site..... caveat emptor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juggernaut 11,054 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 http://froogle.gunbroker.com/User/SellerTutorial.asp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HarvKY 72 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 How much does it cost to re-list something on GB for 500+ dollars? I presume that you've never used GB Its FREE HarvKY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 How much does it cost to re-list something on GB for 500+ dollars? I presume that you've never used GB Its FREE HarvKY The very basic service is free to list, but you pay a percentage of the sale price to GunJoker when the item is sold. Even with the inexpensive options, the item will relist itself forever until it sells or the seller takes the ad down with no additional payment required (until it sells). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boba Debt 350 Posted October 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Ok That helps me understand it a little better. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vbrtrmn 167 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Well, a lot of those guys figure if they keep listing over and over, eventually they'll find some sucker who will buy. I only use GB to find C&R guns, the ones which kind of get me are the guys who post a firearm starting at a penny with a high reserve and state "Reserve Not Disclosed", hmmm .. maybe if I knew what the reserve was, I'd buy it, but since the sellers who do this are kind of dbags, I just won't deal with them at all. This is one of the best examples, I like this gallery gun a lot and would love to get it for my father, to replace the one he had as a kid. The listing has been on GB for something like a year. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=142079550 I actually have a script I wrote up for gunbroker which you can use with the Firefox browser and Greasemonkey add-on, it cleans up a lot of the bad UI and kludginess which GB has. http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/32178 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 A lot of dealers list all their contact info as well, that way you will/can contact them on the phone. There is no reason to relist if that it their purpose. There is a dealer here in Georgia that lists some great deals on Leupold scopes, but when you call them they are out, even though the Ad is still running. They will try to sell you something else for more! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waltham_41 52 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 If I am not mistaken, you can list it on GB and let the auction run however many times it takes to sell for the initial fee and their cut of the final auction value Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eric Pate 478 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I don't believe in selling firearms (its against my religion) but if I ever wanted to, you can guarantee I'd be doing it on GB. I've seen some ludicrously bad deals sell on there just out of buyer ignorance. I'd be trying to cash in on that too. FWIW, I'd never BUY anything from GB, that site only seems to help sellers find clueless newbs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raoul_Duke 113 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 FWIW, I'd never BUY anything from GB, that site only seems to help sellers find clueless newbs. I've gotten a few good deals on firearms from GB, but they are few and far between. You have got to be patient and look often. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I have made some good deals on GB, but mostly for parts! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elkhound 91 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 I have found a few really good buys on Gunbroker. But, you have to look, recheck, look again, and then hope no one else knows it is a good deal, too. If they know, then you get a bidding battle and the thing bids up to what it is worth. There goes your good deal. I really like the Winchester Stainless Marine 12 gauge pumps. In pristine condition, they are getting harder and harder to find. Trolling the auction sites is one of the best ways to find such hard to find guns. But, there are a lot of jerk seller on Gunbroker with their own silly demands and requirements. But, yes, once you pay your listing fee, you can leave the thing posted for as long as you want. WJ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elkhound 91 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 And expecting a different result. I don't get how sellers on Gunbroker.com can afford to list the same auction 5+ times. If the gun didn't sell for $679 after the third time I would think about lowering the price. I have noticed some sellers actually increase the price. I just don't get the logic behind it. How much does it cost to re-list something on GB for 500+ dollars? Oh, Boba, I forgot to address the "raising the price" issue. I have actually done that on Gunbroker. The logic, at least in my mind, is that after the item fails to sell on the second running of the listing, you might price it down to see if anyone will bite. If that fails, and you are not in a hurry to sell it, then you raise your price back to what you want for it and hope that the right buyer eventually comes along. It may not make perfect sense, but then, what about our fascination with guns really does make sense? WJ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paprotective 362 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Bought and sold on there for like 2 years.. I price out what I am selling FIRST, then go $5 lower (as an example) then the lowest guy selling the same item, and voila' it sells. If selling also keep shipping DOWN.. Some GB sellers charge more for shipping than the item costs.. Hard items are AMMO as you got to ship ORM D with UPS or FED X Ground.. Also got to know restrictions by state for Ammo and Mags also.. My Glock sold for $645 (G30 with xtra BBL and 150 rounds ammo and 3 mags and 2 holsters) and cost was like $32 when it sold... So always include the END listing fees if you can figure that out when you put items up or be prepared to SUCK IT UP which if you want to sell something then be prepared.. Winning on GB is like on Eba*, wait till 17 minutes and bid you butt off. I got 100 rounds of 7.62x54R for $18 last week. Even with shipping was only $0.28 round.. [i don't have $110 for 440 rounds so $0.28 vs. $0.22 or so is a good deal to me. IMHO.] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paulyski 2,227 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 Insanity is doing the same thing over & over & expecting a different result. Hearing & seeing people & voices that aren't there count too.... I don't get how sellers on Gunbroker.com can afford to list the same auction 5+ times. If the gun didn't sell for $679 after the third time I would think about lowering the price. I have noticed some sellers actually increase the price. I just don't get the logic behind it. How much does it cost to re-list something on GB for 500+ dollars? As many have said, the perceived value has a lot to do with it too. Or the guy may have listed what he felt was a great deal because he needed $ badly, & then when it didn't sell, & he got out of trouble, he listed it at what he considers it's true value. Personally, being as I like to sell stuff fast, I will list GREAT deals. For example, I had a 40hp Evinrude outboard boat motor, I was moving & had already sold the boat, so I listed it on Craigslist for $400.00. I got a ton fo calls from people who seemed to assume it was a pile of crap. I could sense the skepticism in their voices. I even re-listed the damn thing for a $250.00 one day only special. Once again, a lot of calls, no buyers. Keep in mind that I put over &1000.00 into this damnd thing & it ran like a top! It even had electric start & I had it in a 55gal barrel so I could show people.... (who never showed) I moved & took it with me. Later I listed it for $800.00 & it sold within 3 days... Go figure. People are assuming, suspicious & ignorant for the most part. I guess they feel if it is a good deal, it has got to be B.S. I will now list stuff for WAY above what I want. Just so I can let people bargain me down so that they "FEEL" like they got a good deal. A person's reality is all in their perception. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boba Debt 350 Posted October 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 I guess the unlimited ability to relist something for free is the driving factor. Personally, when I am listing something for auction it's because I wasn't to sell it off fast. So I do my homework and offer a good deal. Apparently, some sellers are as concerned about selling the item quickly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shandlanos 1,470 Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 A lot of dealers list all their contact info as well, that way you will/can contact them on the phone. There is no reason to relist if that it their purpose. There is a dealer here in Georgia that lists some great deals on Leupold scopes, but when you call them they are out, even though the Ad is still running. They will try to sell you something else for more! Sounds like an illegal bait-and-switch operation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BronCobraJet 80 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 I've seen the same mentality on the Bay, for no apparent reason, unless some one comes along that had not seen the listing before and decided it was a good price. Example, I was in the market for a chrome and glass dining table. Most were selling for $1200 plus. A guy from KC was offering the exact table for $550. No one bought it for three different times he posted. Same as the $1200 tables. I emailed him and bought it for the $550 price, and it is exceptional. (everything in my house is 60s or 70s furniture bought from all over the world on Ebay) Who knows what the hell people are thinking when they bid on anything? I actually paid more in shipping than what the table cost, but it was still lower than the other posters with shipping. I see things like that on ebay all the time. The cost goes astronomical after a posting or two, and many times they get what they are asking at the higher price. Most of the items I am looking at, though, are one of a kind 60s and 70s furniture or decoration items.But I think the core concept remains the same. Eventually, someone is going to come along and snag it, unless whatever you are selling is complete junk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BronCobraJet 80 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 I guess I'm officially insane, I get drunk and watch porn over and over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
t165 30 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 (edited) I guess I'm officially insane, I get drunk and watch porn over and over. Damn...I do the same thing! I thought I was just a perv, now I know I'm just a bit crazy! Edited October 7, 2009 by t165 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JulianH 4 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 I guess I'm officially insane, I get drunk and watch porn over and over. LOL! Actually, the saying is that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results. Since you get the expected results every time, you're just a fuckin perv. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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