big lumber 9 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 i have had a offer made and want advice a gentle man has offered two trade choices from him...he will trade me straight up my shotgun and two mags for a excellent shape hk usp 45 with 3 10 round hk mags bout 400 rds down the tube or he will trade me a springfield xd45 with 3 13 round mags and trijicon sights installed and heel give me $200 he sayes is like new my figuring is it would be cheaper to buy a springfield xd45 than it would be a usp 45 but... opinions? btw the picture is of my shotgun Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 Somebody is on drugs here. The XD is the better deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big lumber 9 Posted December 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 am i just missled...i havent checked in a while but i thought the usp was a really expensive gun? i was leaning more towards the xd but i was just making sure... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big lumber 9 Posted December 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 also im not on drugs its a non converted eaa and i was just dumbfounded by the hk name i guess so the xd45 is a better pistol? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalioth 405 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 also im not on drugs its a non converted eaa and i was just dumbfounded by the hk name i guess so the xd45 is a better pistol? The seller is on drugs - not you. The XD is the better deal, imho. The H&K deal is crazy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big lumber 9 Posted December 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 so its def. not worth an even trade for the hk? soo would you do the xd deal if it were you? i have a converted tricked out s-12 im keeping for my self so keep that in mind... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 My personal opinion is contrarian to Nalioth's. I would take the HK .45 USP in trade. Is it a compact or Full Size? The rifling on the HK makes it a very accurate weapon and HK quality is great and it is not a striker type. I have a number of XDm pistols and they are great but I would prefer the HK .45 1911 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big lumber 9 Posted December 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 how much is the hk worth?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big lumber 9 Posted December 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 nevermind i just found one on a auction sight with more mags for 500 buy it now yah the guy im dealing with is trying to sell it for 800 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
buckandaquarterquarterstaff 5 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Neither, You can get a reliable 45 for $300 (used, but that's what you're asking about anyway). Your shotty is worth more than either gun IMO. Also, I find the HK is the better of the two pistols, but neither is worth yours in trade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norty 13 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 (edited) I say take the HK the USP is a great gun, I really like mine. You should ask the guy if you can meet at a local range for a test shoot to see which feels better to you. Check which variant the HK is also, they have about 9 variants. I think V1 is the best its like a 1911 carry cocked and locked if you like or you can use the decocker for DA. Also for vallue to compare all three at "New Price" Saiga (stock) $550 HK $800 XD $500 Edited December 11, 2009 by Norty 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aresv 49 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 Having tried both, I prefer the XD. H&K's are quality pistols but I don't care for their ergonomics (plus H&K is legendary for their piss-poor customer service). OP, do you really WANT either pistol? If you don't, then don't trade. Keep your shotgun and trade it for something that suits you. Buckandaquarterquarterstaff is right. You can get a reliable .45 for cheaper than what your shotgun is worth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
janusthephoenix 24 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 My vote is keep your shotgun. As far as USP vs. XD, the biggest determinant should be personal preference, like others have said. (Kind of like any other handgun debate ever...) Beyond that, I would lean towards USP right now because of the all metal frame, but it's also a rather big gun and I've small hands. Anyway, keep your shotgun and go try out some handguns at the range. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vbrtrmn 167 Posted December 11, 2009 Report Share Posted December 11, 2009 I fired the Springfield XD-45 Tactical, had a really good time with it and it fits my hand like it was built for me. The gun belongs to a buddy of mine, he's shooting it and getting all over the paper, I pick it up and put holes through holes in a nice little group. When I put it down and turn around, he's pissed at me for shooting his gun better than himself. I've never fired an HK 45 and have no experience with them, not even second-hand knowledge (which is worthless most of the time anyway). Which versions of the pistols is he offering up? Remember the Springfield XD-45 has different variants, some are more costly than others. The HK probably has several variants as well. Do they come with any accessories? Is your S-12 exactly as shown in the picture or do you have more stuff you are trading? If you've never fired either gun, I'd recommend starting there, call around to your ranges and see if they have one to rent or if the guy is local ask him if you can fire them first. No sense in trading a gun which you don't want for another gun which wind up not liking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norty 13 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 My vote is keep your shotgun. As far as USP vs. XD, the biggest determinant should be personal preference, like others have said. (Kind of like any other handgun debate ever...) Beyond that, I would lean towards USP right now because of the all metal frame, but it's also a rather big gun and I've small hands. Anyway, keep your shotgun and go try out some handguns at the range. The USP has a Polymer Frame. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
janusthephoenix 24 Posted December 14, 2009 Report Share Posted December 14, 2009 The USP has a Polymer Frame. You are correct...I was thinking of the HK Mark 23. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big lumber 9 Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 i went with buck and janus and kept my shotgun...i have found a deal i am doing though...a like new desert eagle mk19 in .50AE with 4 mags and a shoulder holster...im V E R Y excited..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big lumber 9 Posted December 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 is the .500 sw mag really that much more powerful than the .50AE?? i heard someone say that the 500 is way more powerful... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Motopilot1 37 Posted December 22, 2009 Report Share Posted December 22, 2009 my vote is for the xd. I have shot both and find the xd is better for me as for the usp being more accurat, it may be but i can put all 13 rounds in the x ring with my xd45. at the 25 ft red line so thats good enough for me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big lumber 9 Posted January 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 soo i sold my shotgun for $700 cash and bought the previously spoken about desert eagle mk xix with 4 mags and shoulder holster!! all i have to say is WOW this gun makes my .45 look like a .22 i havent shot it yet but i cant wait to post pics and a range report the reason for no pics is its being safety checked by a smith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big lumber 9 Posted January 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 this is a hornady 230 gr. xtp/jhp +p in .45 auto next to a speer 350gr. jsp in .50 A.E. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big lumber 9 Posted January 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2010 (edited) here it is... my hog DESTROYER!!!! Edited January 18, 2010 by big lumber Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arik 565 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 When you're getting into half inch caliber I dont think it makes a differance how much more powerfull the .500 is over the .50. Unless your trying to hunt down Sasquatch. I had one of those DE .50s. Was cool for a while but the fun kept going down hill with every purchese of a box of ammo $$$$$$$$ I tried carring it once, all day in a shoulder holster. Not the most comfortable thing in the world. If you havnt shot it yet make sure you hang on to it or wear a football helmet!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big lumber 9 Posted January 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 i can one hand my 870 super mag with 3 1/2 inch super x turkey loads i think i should be ok...but still ill probably wear my mx helmet you know just in case lol id hate to be the guy going yah it aint that bad then post pictures of my bleeding face!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gibbles 23 Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I would take the USP .45 and the $200. Then add about $350 to that and buy a new S12. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
big lumber 9 Posted February 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 .50.bmp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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