Draco sling attachment

[corbin 621]

Hi guys

 

I've got a new Draco pistol and will be adding a single point sling to it shortly. I know I can't add a stock to it without registering it as a SBR. But what I'm wondering is, if I drill a couple holes in the backplate and attack a metal (or rope for that matter) loop, but happen to drill the holes in the same location that I'd eventually use to install a stock, would I get in trouble for "intent to assemble" a SBR, do you think?

 

How about if the holes are smaller than what I'd need for the stock, but still in the same location, and not threaded? That way I could open them up down the road, if/when I decide to go the SBR route.

 

Here's a quick drawing of the backplate with loop like I want:

 

 

Here's my Draco:

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

Corbin

[sunnybean 939]

I bet you're okay as long as you don't have the folder and stock laying around. There are plenty of guns manufactured as pistols that can readily accept a stock...AR pistols, Sig 556P, HK 89, etc.

 

Of course, I'm just some random dude on the internet too.

[corbin 621]

I can see both sides of it. I've never owned an AR pistol, but they look like they'd take a stock pretty easily, if someone had the intent (which I don't). But they COME readily adaptable. The Draco doesn't.

 

The sling I'll be using has a clip/carabiner to attach to the Draco. I'll need some sort of loop for that to clip onto. Instead of a metal loop, I might do a paracord one instead. We'll see. I'm waiting to receive the sling, so it'll help determine what I'll want on the Draco as far as attachment goes.

 

I do not intend to do anything illegal. I'm just getting opinions on sling attachment and if this method would cause legal issues. I won't be attaching a stock to it unless I have the proper paperwork. I don't even HAVE any spare stocks anyway.

 

 

 

Corbin

 

*EDIT* WS, I picked it up for $420.00 at a local shop. I know they can be had cheaper, but by the time I would have paid shipping and the FFL transfer, I wouldn't have saved a lot. Plus, this way I could handle it before buying it to look for canted sights, gas blocks on weird, etc.

Edited February 23, 2010 by Corbin

[YARP 300]

Corbin,

Hello my MI brother, to bad we can't SBR right?! No you will not be violating any federal or MI laws. If you look at a Kel-Tecs PLR-16 they come stock with the same thing that your looking to do. You are not modifying the receiver in anyway to be able to accept a stock so your not doing anything illegal. Also there are a ton of different options out there that aren't as "touchy subject" as this one. If you need any help let me know by PM.

YARP

[DogMan 2,343]

In my not so expert opinion I would think your idea of drilling holes smaller than what you would need to add a stock would be good insurance anyway. I think it would be hard to argue intent if the holes are the wrong size. That's just my 2 cents and that's probably about what it's worth.

Edited February 24, 2010 by DogMan

[MT Predator 2,294]

Why not a hole sized for one of these push button quick disconnects?

[kresk 10,063]

Drill and tap a small hole in the side of the receiver for the sling swivel. Eliminates your concern entirely.

[corbin 621]

Why not a hole sized for one of these push button quick disconnects?

 

 

I'm not sure how thick/thin those require the back plate to be. The Draco's plate is thicker than I thought it would be. Around 1/4" I think.

 

 

Corbin

[Frankyoz 15]

Well to avoid any issue just attach a loop of para cord around the base of the pg nut and feed it out the back of the grip. Mine is on its way and I intend to use this method until I decide wether I want to drill a hole for the quick detach sling swivel above, or something else.

[MT Predator 2,294]

Here ya go. Simple webbing secured by PG nut.

[shades_of_grey 1,092]

Here ya go. Simple webbing secured by PG nut.

 

^ Man, somebody spent a lot of money on accessorizing this pistol. It does look good though, and that method of sling attachment does seem the most "safe".

 

That said, I would probably drill, tap, and use a hole in the rear receiver plate for a sling swivel, in one of the 4 corners that you'd normally use to attach a stock. If it's not illegal and it's more ideal, I say do it.

[MT Predator 2,294]

Not mine, but you may see mine similarly decked out and sporting an under folding stock sometime. I live in an SBR state!

[Berzerker2 19]

Here ya go. Simple webbing secured by PG nut.

 

^ Man, somebody spent a lot of money on accessorizing this pistol. It does look good though, and that method of sling attachment does seem the most "safe".

 

That said, I would probably drill, tap, and use a hole in the rear receiver plate for a sling swivel, in one of the 4 corners that you'd normally use to attach a stock. If it's not illegal and it's more ideal, I say do it.

 

 

Is that a California type bullet shroud? Why have it on there if you are from Florida?

Edited December 28, 2010 by Berzerker2

[22_Shooter 1,560]

Here ya go. Simple webbing secured by PG nut.

 

^ Man, somebody spent a lot of money on accessorizing this pistol. It does look good though, and that method of sling attachment does seem the most "safe".

 

That said, I would probably drill, tap, and use a hole in the rear receiver plate for a sling swivel, in one of the 4 corners that you'd normally use to attach a stock. If it's not illegal and it's more ideal, I say do it.

 

 

Is that a California type bullet shroud? Why have it on there if you are from Florida?

 

The post directly above yours is him saying that it's not his Draco.

[mammynun 14]

Why not a hole sized for one of these push button quick disconnects?

 

 

I'm not sure how thick/thin those require the back plate to be. The Draco's plate is thicker than I thought it would be. Around 1/4" I think.

 

 

Corbin

 

1/2" drill, 9/16" tap, GrovTec QD swivels and cups:

 

 

I did mine with a hand drill, and it's slightly off center, but it's not going anywhere!

[22_Shooter 1,560]

There's also the VM-1 Draco sling mount:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kinda pricey for what it is ($30), but is very secure, from what I read. The PG nut/screw goes through it, ensuring it won't come loose. I'd personally go with the setup in MT's post. That, or use a small piece of 550 paracord around the PG nut/screw and attach a sling directly to that. Same end result.

[Berzerker2 19]

I am picking up a Draco at the end of this month after it arrives at the fun shop I bought it from. I plan on just getting that VM-1 mount for my sling. I was originally thinking of ditzing around with the cord or the web set ups but I think I'll just bite the bullet and shell out the $30. I have a Condor Products mini drag bag fot it and am also sending off for an alternate front foregrip set up. I just haven't figured out which set up I want to use yet.

 

Check out this pimped out AK pistol captured on a raid of a Mexican drug cartel leaders hacienda...

Edited January 7, 2011 by Berzerker2

[joelrod47 373]

The VM-1 works great.............

[volkov 318]

ordered the VM1 today as well.. By the time I bought the right tap and sling mount and did irreversible modification to the trunion I'd rather just spend 30 for the VM1

 

 

also, I kind of want that gold draco but based on the PG and HG's gonna have to think it's just spraypainted =(.

[DrThunder88 912]

Check out this pimped out AK pistol captured on a raid of a Mexican drug cartel leaders hacienda...

That must have been bought from a gun store in the United States.

[Berzerker2 19]

Check out this pimped out AK pistol captured on a raid of a Mexican drug cartel leaders hacienda...

That must have been bought from a gun store in the United States.

 

Could be but those cartel guys have mucho dinero to spend

[DrThunder88 912]

They have all the understated elegance of the average Liberace.

[Berzerker2 19]

Here ya go. Simple webbing secured by PG nut.

 

^ Man, somebody spent a lot of money on accessorizing this pistol. It does look good though, and that method of sling attachment does seem the most "safe".

 

That said, I would probably drill, tap, and use a hole in the rear receiver plate for a sling swivel, in one of the 4 corners that you'd normally use to attach a stock. If it's not illegal and it's more ideal, I say do it.

 

 

Is that a California type bullet shroud? Why have it on there if you are from Florida?

 

The post directly above yours is him saying that it's not his Draco.

 

 

Ah haaaa...

[Berzerker2 19]

They have all the understated elegance of the average Liberace.

 

Looks more like what a person might find in the trunk of a 'pimpmobile" :-)

[DrThunder88 912]

Tru dat.

[MT Predator 2,294]

Echo93 Sling Mounts

[Berzerker2 19]

My Draco has arrived and here's what I ended up doing, just like the other one a couple of posts up.

[bmgm37 0]

Didnt like the ones that were available out there so I made my own....here is one I came up with, it is made for a single point sling to clip onto. I am in the process of having some laser cut and parkerized that will be available for $20 soon.

 

 

[corbin 621]

Went with the sling stud that comes with the Intrafuse HG.

 

 

Edited February 28, 2011 by Corbin