LuckyShot 0 Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Hey guys, I have decided to buy a S308 16inch, seeing as my local gun store wants $495 for them. I just want to add a pistol grip to her. But I have some questions about it. How much in parts will it probaly cost me? (pg,stock,and trigger group) Are there any websites that show the conversion of a saiga .308? (not other models) What parts should I buy that can make the job easier? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stansplace 414 Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 One word, "Dinzag". 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paprotective 362 Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 A Tapco G2 (single hook) $29 can be used with some dremel mods.. and a 6mm washer $.49/4-pk (which u may or may not even need).. Dinzag sell a FCG for the 308 for $XX which is a DROP IN.. The HAMMER is modified for the 308 PG is $16 for the Tapco SAW from CSS (Carolina Shooters Supply) Stock is $29 for the Tapco AK Classic Style from CSS. There are only 2 rivets on the 308 bottom plate.. in the middle however there are 2 small spot welds.. My 308 took me about 1 1/2 hours to do from start to finish (including a lite dusting of black paint on the bottom area).. (the welds were the PITA) Albert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paprotective 362 Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Also.. the conversion is the same.. BUT.. there are no rivets to drill out... So the regular video's will work for you.. There are also some conversion pics in the 308 section.. just dig down abit.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LuckyShot 0 Posted November 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Also.. the conversion is the same.. BUT.. there are no rivets to drill out... So the regular video's will work for you.. There are also some conversion pics in the 308 section.. just dig down abit.. thanks for the info. Is there a pg hole for all saiga .308's? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TackDriver 1 Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Also.. the conversion is the same.. BUT.. there are no rivets to drill out... So the regular video's will work for you.. There are also some conversion pics in the 308 section.. just dig down abit.. thanks for the info. Is there a pg hole for all saiga .308's? People will tell you yes, that all .308s have a PG nut hole. Mine did not, and I have done conversions on others that did not have a PG nut hole. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paprotective 362 Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Lucky.. for the PG hole (if none is found).. there is a post around here with the measurements.. Mine had a hole already.. ah.. here you go.. I had it on file here on my local computer.. Albert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrThunder88 912 Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 (edited) I think my conversion is about as cheap as they come. Tapco G-2 single hook ~$28 Tapco retainer plate ~$11 Tapco piston ~$13 Tapco standard grip ~$10 Tapco grip nut/bolt ~$7 K-Var NATO butt stock ~$45 Total: $114 Actually it was a bit cheaper since the vendor I went with gives C&R holders a discount. Then I threw some other stuff on it like a Tech Sights aperture, PSOP scope, and bipod. The rifle, like other .308s, did not have any extra axis pins, meaning the only drilling was on the bottom of the receiver, including making the PG hole. It was pretty easy, and minor mistakes will get covered by the grip anyway! EDIT: I forgot to add the gas piston. Edited November 11, 2010 by DrThunder88 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alliwantisapepsi 3 Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Agree, Dinzag is great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vintagedude88 16 Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 (edited) My S308 did not have a pg nut hole. When I cut the pg nut hole on my first conversion, it was a total B!t@h. Do yourself a favor and get a DIY trigger guard kit that has a bolt on pg nut or a one piece trigger guard that has a pg nut attached to it. I had a left over pg nut attachment that is available from Cobra's Customs for the S12 which I attached to a reworked stock trigger guard. EDIT: Here's a link to a pic from Cobra's thread. Its for the S12 but you'll get the idea. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=47666 As for triggers, I wouldn't go cheap and try to modify a Tapco G2 on your own. Get the Dinzag FCG for the .308 Its pre-modded and polished ready to drop into your converted receiver. Some on another forums have whined about it costing too much but consider that you're not only paying for an FCG, you're also paying for a custom trigger job for your .308 Its worth the money. On top of all that, get the 8-32 drill an tap sets along with the trigger guard screws from Dinzag. It will save you a trip to the hardware store and the bits he sells is quality stuff that works at a very good price. I just recently converted my S308 and as soon as I'm done getting it accessorized the way I want it, I'll post of pic of it on the forum. Edited November 11, 2010 by FrustratedInCali 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
krisakun 0 Posted November 11, 2010 Report Share Posted November 11, 2010 Also.. the conversion is the same.. BUT.. there are no rivets to drill out... So the regular video's will work for you.. There are also some conversion pics in the 308 section.. just dig down abit.. thanks for the info. Is there a pg hole for all saiga .308's? If you get the Carolina s.s bolt on trigger guard, it comes with a grip nut. So you don't have to worry about cutting a square in your receiver, but you have to drill 2 new mounting holes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
headshot 52 Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Battle Comp. My link Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longhorn03 10 Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) I found this video to be very helpful for my conversion. Pistol Grip Video Also, you need something to keep it steady, a gun vise, regular vise or anything to hold it firmly in place, especially while going to war with those spot welds. I used hitch pin clips to hold the trigger pins in place, they were very simple to install. Edited November 12, 2010 by longhorn03 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chaseface 41 Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 Both videos that I've seen don't put the BHO back in. Does anyone know a video that shows how to do this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
canoecanoe 63 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Both videos that I've seen don't put the BHO back in. Does anyone know a video that shows how to do this? Carolina shooters supply (CSS) has one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
camel 0 Posted November 5, 2014 Report Share Posted November 5, 2014 I think my conversion is about as cheap as they come. Tapco G-2 single hook ~$28 Tapco retainer plate ~$11 Tapco piston ~$13 Tapco standard grip ~$10 Tapco grip nut/bolt ~$7 K-Var NATO butt stock ~$45 Total: $114 Actually it was a bit cheaper since the vendor I went with gives C&R holders a discount. Then I threw some other stuff on it like a Tech Sights aperture, PSOP scope, and bipod. The rifle, like other .308s, did not have any extra axis pins, meaning the only drilling was on the bottom of the receiver, including making the PG hole. It was pretty easy, and minor mistakes will get covered by the grip anyway! EDIT: I forgot to add the gas piston. was it hard to modify the trigger? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 My S308 did not have a pg nut hole. When I cut the pg nut hole on my first conversion, it was a total B!t@h. Do yourself a favor and get a DIY trigger guard kit that has a bolt on pg nut or a one piece trigger guard that has a pg nut attached to it. I had a left over pg nut attachment that is available from Cobra's Customs for the S12 which I attached to a reworked stock trigger guard. EDIT: Here's a link to a pic from Cobra's thread. Its for the S12 but you'll get the idea. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=47666 As for triggers, I wouldn't go cheap and try to modify a Tapco G2 on your own. Get the Dinzag FCG for the .308 Its pre-modded and polished ready to drop into your converted receiver. Some on another forums have whined about it costing too much but consider that you're not only paying for an FCG, you're also paying for a custom trigger job for your .308 Its worth the money. On top of all that, get the 8-32 drill an tap sets along with the trigger guard screws from Dinzag. It will save you a trip to the hardware store and the bits he sells is quality stuff that works at a very good price. I just recently converted my S308 and as soon as I'm done getting it accessorized the way I want it, I'll post of pic of it on the forum. One word, "Dinzag". +100 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macbeau 902 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 1 word - 10 times Dinzag - Dinzag - Dinzag - Dinzag - Dinzag, Dinzag - Dinzag - Dinzag - Dinzag - Dinzag! I have also hear that Dinzag can be a great and affordable help in converting an S-308.... Macbeau... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 1 word - 10 times Dinzag - Dinzag - Dinzag - Dinzag - Dinzag, Dinzag - Dinzag - Dinzag - Dinzag - Dinzag! I have also hear that Dinzag can be a great and affordable help in converting an S-308.... Macbeau... Great help in fact. Was helping me with a S308 project until things went to hell money wise a few months ago. Will just pick up where it left off when things are sorted out in a few months and will be doing all my biz with ... wait for it... Dinzag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted November 9, 2014 Report Share Posted November 9, 2014 Don't forget the 308 needs the saifty fixed . Both I have done needed it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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