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While reading the thread about the new Kel-Tec shotgun, I seen presto_z's post about working in the firearm selling industry and could provide pictures of multiple CF-ed guns. I'm curious as to what everyone can come up with.

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While reading the thread about the new Kel-Tec shotgun, I seen presto_z's post about working in the firearm selling industry and could provide pictures of multiple CF-ed guns. I'm curious as to what everyone can come up with.

Glocks: http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-kb-faq.html

 

M-16: http://www.ak47.net/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=23&t=309936

 

AK47: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=643_1292387173

 

XD45: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/

 

1911: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/25/1911-blown-up/

 

Beretta 92: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-EvhL3k-1o

 

These are all common guns known for reliability. Of the millions of these weapons on the market, you will usually hear about the few that blow up, not the other few million that function perfectly.

 

Also if you read the attached stories, ammo is usually the culprit, not the firearm . If you double charge a max +P load, you will blow up every pistol that is on the consumer market. Be careful when reloading and double check your cases before firing them.

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While reading the thread about the new Kel-Tec shotgun, I seen presto_z's post about working in the firearm selling industry and could provide pictures of multiple CF-ed guns. I'm curious as to what everyone can come up with.

 

AK47: http://www.liveleak....=643_1292387173

 

 

 

LoL

 

Allah does not approve!

 

:osama:

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The issue is the frequency of the failures or of the problems. So for example, the Kalashnikov rifle may have had a few bad lemons, but for the most part provides a stable, safe system. Items made by Kel Tec on the other hand (which fail much more regularly than most other pistols/rifles) are considered unsafe at any speed....

 

 

So, finding a random AK blowing up (even if it was one built in someones basement by a cave dweller) doesn't mean anything.

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The issue is the frequency of the failures or of the problems. So for example, the Kalashnikov rifle may have had a few bad lemons, but for the most part provides a stable, safe system. Items made by Kel Tec on the other hand (which fail much more regularly than most other pistols/rifles) are considered unsafe at any speed....

 

 

So, finding a random AK blowing up (even if it was one built in someones basement by a cave dweller) doesn't mean anything.

OMG! Bigsal forgot to name-call and demean anyone who has ever owned or is considering owning a Kel Tec!

 

I am sure that if I search on this forum, I will not come across a single post about a person experiencing misfires, broken firing pins, FTF, FTE, or any other type problem with a Saiga or AK platform weapon. Yet, amazingly all of my Saiga's (4 of them) seem to work great and if I do experience a problem, I can probably look at the experiences of others here and get feedback on how to fix it rather than declaring that "Anyone who buys this is should be questioned for sanity." or "Buying one of Saiga's "products" is putting your life and the lives of those around you at risk. Plane and simple."

 

Reading/viewing any of those posts/videos I posted above (that I found using the third grader's Internet- thanks for telling me about it Bigsal), I could say that all Glocks go Kaboom! All 1911's are M-80's in your hand! All AR's suck and will blow apart! Don't buy a Beretta unless you want an exploding gun! XD's are accidents waiting to happen!

 

I don't actually believe any of those statements based on my personal experience with each of those weapons platforms. Yet still, this too is turning into a crap on Kel Tec thread because somebody that is prejudiced based on things he read or heard in his circle of like-minded people tries to convince others to believethe same as him. It kinda sounds like exactly what Right-Wing Bible Thumpers do with their beliefs and the reason why the left hates them so much. :haha:

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While reading the thread about the new Kel-Tec shotgun, I seen presto_z's post about working in the firearm selling industry and could provide pictures of multiple CF-ed guns. I'm curious as to what everyone can come up with.

Glocks: http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-kb-faq.html

 

M-16: http://www.ak47.net/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=23&t=309936

 

AK47: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=643_1292387173

 

XD45: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/03/16/springfield-xd-45-blown-up/

 

1911: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/06/25/1911-blown-up/

 

Beretta 92: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-EvhL3k-1o

 

These are all common guns known for reliability. Of the millions of these weapons on the market, you will usually hear about the few that blow up, not the other few million that function perfectly.

 

Also if you read the attached stories, ammo is usually the culprit, not the firearm . If you double charge a max +P load, you will blow up every pistol that is on the consumer market. Be careful when reloading and double check your cases before firing them.

 

+1 for you, just because I assumed the first post was going to be some Glock-hater douche who only posted pics of Glocks, lol.

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Here's some CF's that Google brought up:

 

 

 

S&W 625-JM:

 

 

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SA 1911:

 

 

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Walther P22:

 

 

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Colt AR:

 

 

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XD:

 

 

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HK .45:

 

 

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Glock:

 

 

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I cant help but wonder how many of those are due to over charged hand loads.......anyone wanna wager?

 

People tend to get really brave when they think they have a "quality" firearm even though they shouldnt.

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I cant help but wonder how many of those are due to over charged hand loads.......anyone wanna wager?

 

People tend to get really brave when they think they have a "quality" firearm even though they shouldnt.

 

Oh, no doubt. I'd bet ammo was the cause of the majority of these CF's.

 

I'm surprised at that walther .22. even if the barrel was completely plugged, It's incredible that a 22lr has enough zip to do something like that. And the springfield 1911 is odd... maybe a bad forging?

 

Same here. I scratched my head at a .22 round doing that kinda damage. But I'm ballistically retarded, so who knows.

 

I think you're right on the 1911. I'll admit, I didn't read all the stories behind each picture I posted. But IIRC, a manufacturing defect was the cause of the 1911's nose falling off.

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It amazes me how many big name Companies have examples here, Colt, Springfield, Walther...and only one damn HI POINT!!!! :lolol:

 

 

Yeah not all Pintos will explode when hit in the back either. I know this first hand from riding in one while a reckless speeding telephone pole stuck us from behind.:lolol:

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I cant help but wonder how many of those are due to over charged hand loads.......anyone wanna wager?

 

People tend to get really brave when they think they have a "quality" firearm even though they shouldnt.

 

 

All of those are due to shitty ammo except the possible "out of battery" detonations with the automatic rifles.

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