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Not sure if this should be here, but its relevant to the S12s. Anyway, Not going to say who the retailer is until he answers my emails ( been two days ) . I received the gun yesterday in this condition. I dont know if this is normal stuff that can happen while shipping them, is the finish THAT weak? I was just kind of surprised that it came to me like this. There was a grit all over the gun and all over the paper packaging. And you can see where the CH went through the box. Now Im not sure how they shipped it, but I didnt see any labels on the box.

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Looks fine. AK handles are always punched through the boxes.

Small scratches...it's an S-12, not a Citori.

Grit in the gun, blow it out and clean the gun.

I didn't see any issues with it.

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My box had the same hole is the same spot ( Customs inspection maybe?), same grit in the barrel and a few starches. Will fix the scratches this weekend when mine goes from $520 to $750. The important part was it cycled great with low brass without doing anything to it. Make sure you run the rounds through it :killer:

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I still am amazed that nobody has done a damned thing about the ages old problem of the charging handles poking through the side of the box on about every Saiga that gets shipped individually. How F'n hard would it be to put some extra cardboard or foam reinforcement right there before closing up the box and trusting it to the mail monkeys? Any AK that I've ever sold was shipped with either the bolt carrier removed and padded separately, or the thing supported there by a block of foam, or rolled up cardboard tube to keep it from poking through the box the first time somebody threw it down or put something else on top of it. Instead, most of em get delivered with a hole in the box and a scratched up charging handle. You're not even supposed to ship a firearm in the US mail, with anything written on the box alluding to a gun being inside...much less have friggin parts of it sticking out of the box. IMO they should also have an exterior box without all the IZZY writing on the outside.

 

Rant off...

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My FFL received a .308 and S-12 last Friday and this Monday respectively. Both look very nice with none of those issues... haven't checked the barrel or internals yet though. Both do have very minor marks from the safety lever being moved but that may just be from the factory or from people in the store messing with them.

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The reason there is no label on the box is likely that it was wrapped in brown paper for shipping. The shipping label is in the trash can of your local dealer.

 

It would seem that they could make a cardboard cap for the charging handle and wrap it with stretch film. But every AK action firearm I've ever bought has the handle sticking through the box and paint scuffed off.

 

The grit could be some sort of VCI product.

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MrOneEyedBoh - the very important reason that good folks tell you to shoot it FIRST is that you may uncover a problem that is not easily remedied: i.e. too few ports which cause the weapon to not cycle. That is covered under warranty UNLESS you have altered the weapon. Capisci?

 

1911

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I still am amazed that nobody has done a damned thing about the ages old problem of the charging handles poking through the side of the box on about every Saiga that gets shipped individually. How F'n hard would it be to put some extra cardboard or foam reinforcement right there before closing up the box and trusting it to the mail monkeys? Any AK that I've ever sold was shipped with either the bolt carrier removed and padded separately, or the thing supported there by a block of foam, or rolled up cardboard tube to keep it from poking through the box the first time somebody threw it down or put something else on top of it. Instead, most of em get delivered with a hole in the box and a scratched up charging handle. You're not even supposed to ship a firearm in the US mail, with anything written on the box alluding to a gun being inside...much less have friggin parts of it sticking out of the box. IMO they should also have an exterior box without all the IZZY writing on the outside.

 

Rant off...

 

Thats too easy haha

 

 

They all come with a hole in the box. If you get a Saiga that doesn't have a hole in the box, then it's probably defective and you should send it back. Sounds like you got a good one. :rolleyes:

 

Tony

 

Good to know :zorro:

 

 

The reason there is no label on the box is likely that it was wrapped in brown paper for shipping. The shipping label is in the trash can of your local dealer.

 

It would seem that they could make a cardboard cap for the charging handle and wrap it with stretch film. But every AK action firearm I've ever bought has the handle sticking through the box and paint scuffed off.

 

The grit could be some sort of VCI product.

 

Wouldnt that make sense?

 

MrOneEyedBoh - the very important reason that good folks tell you to shoot it FIRST is that you may uncover a problem that is not easily remedied: i.e. too few ports which cause the weapon to not cycle. That is covered under warranty UNLESS you have altered the weapon. Capisci?

 

1911

 

 

I pulled the plug and I have three visible holes canted towards the action of the gun. Sounds about right, right?

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I still am amazed that nobody has done a damned thing about the ages old problem of the charging handles poking through the side of the box on about every Saiga that gets shipped individually. How F'n hard would it be to put some extra cardboard or foam reinforcement right there before closing up the box and trusting it to the mail monkeys? Any AK that I've ever sold was shipped with either the bolt carrier removed and padded separately, or the thing supported there by a block of foam, or rolled up cardboard tube to keep it from poking through the box the first time somebody threw it down or put something else on top of it. Instead, most of em get delivered with a hole in the box and a scratched up charging handle. You're not even supposed to ship a firearm in the US mail, with anything written on the box alluding to a gun being inside...much less have friggin parts of it sticking out of the box. IMO they should also have an exterior box without all the IZZY writing on the outside.

 

Rant off...

 

I agree, even dealers often time have chewed up boxes. Get some damn cheap ass bubble wrap or something. My Draco box looked like a rodent was trapped in there and ate its way out. Luckily my Saiga12 was hand picked.

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I agree, even dealers often time have chewed up boxes. Get some damn cheap ass bubble wrap or something. My Draco box looked like a rodent was trapped in there and ate its way out. Luckily my Saiga12 was hand picked.

 

They have to ship the rats out in something right? :eek:

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MrOneEyedBoh - the very important reason that good folks tell you to shoot it FIRST is that you may uncover a problem that is not easily remedied: i.e. too few ports which cause the weapon to not cycle. That is covered under warranty UNLESS you have altered the weapon. Capisci?

 

1911

 

Cadiz will fix converted guns. As long as whats causing the failures, or what needs repaired, has not been altered or caused by the owner or person who did the conversion.

 

Its posted in ther sub-forum straight from the horses mouth.

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Way back in the day, I recieved a MAC-10 NIB that was a mess. It had obviously been under water (flood).

Chamber and bore were sold rust. All edges on gun had rust.

I just threw on a new barrel, and I was as happy as a clam.

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My last ones were from Arsenal and were the SGL 12-02's. I had no hole in the boxes and the charging handles had a large red plastic piece on them to prevent damage to the box and handle.

 

I too am one of the guys who say convert it then tune it. Why the hell would I want to tune a gun twice?

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