m1lk 26 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 (edited) oh christ wtf just got this thing 3 days ago, and put 250 rounds through it today for the first time, and this is what happens. no jams, though. notice the silver shit, the carrier is definitely mashing into the thing. the rivets dont appear to be deforming...so far question is, is it overgassed? or the 154 grain herters soft point i was mostly shooting out of the thing? btw, is the rear trunnion of this thing supposed to have that small U shaped indent? Edited May 20, 2011 by m1lk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gregomega 929 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 I'm no expert but my 2 cents says it's the high grain ammo. Never herd of x39 ammo grain going that high only 123,4,5 grains Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Pick up a recoil buffer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MLM0358 107 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Check to see what the gas setting is on your gun. Check out some of the threads here for lots of info. If it's a stock Saiga gas system, it should probably be on setting #1 for the loads you are using. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Revolver Ocelot 3 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Check to see what the gas setting is on your gun. Check out some of the threads here for lots of info. If it's a stock Saiga gas system, it should probably be on setting #1 for the loads you are using. I think that is only for the Saiga Shotguns. Not the rifles. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rx slim 6 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 My wife wishes I had a gas setting. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Check to see what the gas setting is on your gun. Check out some of the threads here for lots of info. If it's a stock Saiga gas system, it should probably be on setting #1 for the loads you are using. How do you change the gas setting on a Siaga rifle? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
canoecanoe 63 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Maybe your spring is not up to spec and is not doing its' job properly. I also suggest you try a buffer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigcec1 72 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Check to see what the gas setting is on your gun. Check out some of the threads here for lots of info. If it's a stock Saiga gas system, it should probably be on setting #1 for the loads you are using. How do you change the gas setting on a Siaga rifle? You drill a hole in the gas block and put an adjustment screw in ofcourse Quote Link to post Share on other sites
supertex 242 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 Pick up a recoil buffer. right here at the e store Quote Link to post Share on other sites
m1lk 26 Posted May 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 im iffy on recoil buffers. would rather a wolff spring xtra power if i were to go that route. though i used to have an io inc ak47c, and fired these same softpoints out of it. after a while the gun would jam, and then the rear trunnion rivets started to bend and come out. i can understand this on a cheap ass rifle like an IO or whatever, but not an $800 Arsenal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rob-cubed 74 Posted May 20, 2011 Report Share Posted May 20, 2011 As durable as AKs are, they are designed around a specific-grained ammo... there's a pretty fine balance between the gas port size and the springs that balances everything out. I'd use a stronger recoil spring, I'm not big on buffers, and/or reserve SP for hunting and SHTF... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stnls1911 55 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) As durable as AKs are, they are designed around a specific-grained ammo... there's a pretty fine balance between the gas port size and the springs that balances everything out. I'd use a stronger recoil spring, I'm not big on buffers, and/or reserve SP for hunting and SHTF... I definitely agree. There are quite a few options in SP ammo around the 123-124 grain, as well. Edited May 21, 2011 by stnls1911 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TARE 47 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) I think the ammo must be too hot. stick to 125gr or less. If you want to keep using that ammo, get a stronger recoil sping Edited May 21, 2011 by TARE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimdigriz 580 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 Is it a brand new rifle? Does it have any parts that have been switched out, like the hammer spring for instance? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
m1lk 26 Posted May 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 Is it a brand new rifle? Does it have any parts that have been switched out, like the hammer spring for instance? brand new rifle. i will try both options then. i have an ak74 with a wolff spring xtra power in it, ill test it with that spring, then lighter ammo, then both. if i still get the same result, ill call up Arsenal and use the warranty. thanks for the help folks, any other information you can provide would be great Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kdbutler 563 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) My vote is for a stronger spring. Some of our more seasoned members (of which I am not) have recommended that in the past. Attitudes about recoil buffers are mixed at best around here. I've shot 154 grain SP's through mine, and have not seen that kind of trunion damage personally. Then again, I've only put about 40 rounds at that weight through mine. I prefer 123 and 124 grain weights. Let us know what you decide. I've been thinking of getting an aftermarket spring myself. Good Luck. Edited May 21, 2011 by Kevin in Texas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GregM1 241 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Share Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) im iffy on recoil buffers. would rather a wolff spring xtra power if i were to go that route. you can get a bulgarian ak-74 spring and its a direct match, mil-spec, and stronger than the saiga factory spring. last buffer i used got ate up by the carrier and caused an easily fixed jam. i would go with the lighter grain ammo and/or a stronger spring. Edited May 21, 2011 by GregM1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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