johnamcentirev 5 Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 I'm looking for a new buttstock on my S12. I had a tapco but I just didn't like it. It worked, but I just wanted a little more style. I have the RPK handguards and thought this stock would look pretty cool since it would kind of match the RPK theme. Also looking into getting the Arsenal RPK grip. The stock set comes from Royal Tiger Imports, which I understand is a subsidiary of Inter Ordinance rifles. The IO rifles come with this stock too. Does anyone have any experience with this stock, either on a Saiga or IO AK, or experience dealing with Royal Tiger/IO? Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jwiedy 10 Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 I bought an underfolder stock and trunnion from royal tiger. I got no complaints. Price was cheap, parts were exactly as pictured, and delivery was clockwork. As far as that stockset goes I cant help you there. Sorry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
datrowl 111 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 its a good lookin set and not run of the mill, so many people do the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and there are SO MANY options avaliable.... be different! be unique! be first! the ONLY thing i'd worry about that stock set is how well it was filled and hopefully not gonna have that hollow plastic echo when ya tap it... and yes, I know that made no sense whatsoever but I don't know how else to say it... at that price.. its worth takeing a shot on just to own something different and kewl =o) let us know how it works out if ya snag one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alpha Kilo 42 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 A friend of mine has that, as much as I wanted to hate on it, once I held it, I really couldn't. It's not bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnamcentirev 5 Posted September 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Glad to hear that Royal Tiger is running a good shop, I hadn't heard anything about them so I was a little nervous about ordering. Thanks datowl! I'll certainly let yall know. I'm pretty sure it'll be hollow Tapco grade plastic. I'd be pleasantly surprised if it was otherwise. I'd love if it was solid, I'd like to attach a recoil pad, something a little more sightly than a slip on. I wrecked my other tapco stock trying to flatten out the shoulder curve to fix a kickeez grind to fit. I liked how this one under the butt plate is flat. I've been on here every day for over a year now, constantly saying if I get this one more piece I'll be done and can post the build! This time might be it though. Fingers crossed.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smoke Eater 7 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 I had a hollow stock that looked great but it was just CHEAP so I filled it with spray foam and LOVED IT! felt 10x better and you can add weight inside before filling it with the foam! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Running that same stock on my S12. Took it off my I.O. Inc Weiger AK clone and installed the East German folder on that. This stock is a HELL of a lot better than the standard polymer AK stock I used to use on the S12. The buttpad will also help absorb recoil more than you think too... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnamcentirev 5 Posted September 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 That's a great idea smoke eater! Do you remember what kind of spray foam you used? I dont know if there are different types for different purposes, and I'm assuming you can get that at a hardware store. How dense is that stuff? Think it might be firm enough to hold a mercury recoil buffer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnamcentirev 5 Posted September 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Running that same stock on my S12. Took it off my I.O. Inc Weiger AK clone and installed the East German folder on that. This stock is a HELL of a lot better than the standard polymer AK stock I used to use on the S12. The buttpad will also help absorb recoil more than you think too... Awesome Jpanzer, happen to have any pics? I've had my eye on it for a while now and think I'll order one tomorrow. The butt looks bigger than regular AK size, so I though it might feel a little more comfortable. Some people like to find their manhood in the most uncomfortable stocks and highest recoiling guns, but I want to make this thing the smoothest shooter I got! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yooper14.5 84 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) Running that same stock on my S12. Took it off my I.O. Inc Weiger AK clone and installed the East German folder on that. This stock is a HELL of a lot better than the standard polymer AK stock I used to use on the S12. The buttpad will also help absorb recoil more than you think too... Awesome Jpanzer, happen to have any pics? I've had my eye on it for a while now and think I'll order one tomorrow. The butt looks bigger than regular AK size, so I though it might feel a little more comfortable. Some people like to find their manhood in the most uncomfortable stocks and highest recoiling guns, but I want to make this thing the smoothest shooter I got! dude, if you want smooth, put a pignose adapter on it with a enidine buffer and AR style stock. It kills recoil. Especially with high brass. Its outstanding. I used to not think it was hydraulic because I could hear the springs inside, but I found the design online when I found its patent and it is hydraulic. I have one and love it. Then stick a recoil pad on top of the stock and its one damn comfortable machine. Heres a really good topic on the enidine: http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/68157-q-for-those-that-have-the-enidine-shot-shock/ Also, if you dont want to go with a AR stock, ask cobra about that mercury recoil reducer. Edited September 2, 2011 by yooper14.5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Running that same stock on my S12. Took it off my I.O. Inc Weiger AK clone and installed the East German folder on that. This stock is a HELL of a lot better than the standard polymer AK stock I used to use on the S12. The buttpad will also help absorb recoil more than you think too... Awesome Jpanzer, happen to have any pics? I've had my eye on it for a while now and think I'll order one tomorrow. The butt looks bigger than regular AK size, so I though it might feel a little more comfortable. Some people like to find their manhood in the most uncomfortable stocks and highest recoiling guns, but I want to make this thing the smoothest shooter I got! I'll try to get a pic up for you ASAP! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Smoke Eater 7 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 You can get it at any hardware store. Spray slow it will expand more than you think! It can be easily trimmed flush after it hardens and yes it will hold hydrolic/mercury tubes, if you wish to be able to remove the recoil absorber at a later date wait for the foam to completely harden then drill it. That's a great idea smoke eater! Do you remember what kind of spray foam you used? I dont know if there are different types for different purposes, and I'm assuming you can get that at a hardware store. How dense is that stuff? Think it might be firm enough to hold a mercury recoil buffer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) As requested, here are some pics of my S12 as it is currently: I think I will leave it this way. To me the stock looks and functions perfectly. I like the all black - all business look of the shotgun, no frills just raw power. Some of the other stuff on it: Krebs Custom S-12 combat shotgun sights, DPH Arms Russian-style flash hider, MD Arms V-Plug, Tromix charging handle, Soviet military AK sling. Here is a close up of the stock: I've got a couple of hundred rounds through it since I added the stock. It's held up perfectly and the bruises on my shoulder are nowhere near as bad as they were with a AK stock! Edited September 3, 2011 by Jpanzer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnamcentirev 5 Posted September 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 That stock looks great! I put in my order for one, I can't wait until it comes in and i get it set up. I'll have to get some pics up for yall when it finally gets done. Think I'm going to get Pauly to polish up my bolt, so I'll see if I can spray foam the stock in the meantime. How's the cheek weld? i imagine its the same as a normal stock, but any suggestions for raising the cheek weld for running optics? Thanks for all the responses guys! This forum kicks ass, huh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 I just use the Krebs sights on the gun itself, never ran a seperate optic on mine. No problems with cheek weld for that. Unless you run a tall optic I don't think it will be a problem... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) I had a hollow stock that looked great but it was just CHEAP so I filled it with spray foam and LOVED IT! felt 10x better and you can add weight inside before filling it with the foam! I've done that with one of the stocks I had on my 50 cal, adding lead shot as I shot the foam. It makes a nice, HEAVY, solid stock. Weight KILLS the recoil of even the 50 BMG! Edited September 3, 2011 by patriot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnamcentirev 5 Posted September 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 I just use the Krebs sights on the gun itself, never ran a seperate optic on mine. No problems with cheek weld for that. Unless you run a tall optic I don't think it will be a problem... Yeah I'll be running a Sightmark Ultrashot on a utg side rail mount. It's supposedly low profile, but still sits rather high. I'd love one of those Texas Weapon Systems railed dust covers, but I hear you have to modify it to fit the S12 and I don't have an AK rear sight block :/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berzerker2 19 Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 Anyone have problems with the butt pad falling off ALL THE TIME? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnamcentirev 5 Posted November 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 yeah I was surprised to find that the butt pad was so low quality it would just pop out when I stood the gun up straight. I filled it with spray foam like smoke eater suggested, squished it into the foam, and it hasn't moved yet. I put a mercury recoil absorber in there too, and it feels solid. Try filling her up! got some "good stuff" insulation foam at Lowe's for around $3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berzerker2 19 Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 I was thinking about sinking a couple of 2-1/2 black drywall screws through the butt pad and theinserting it in the stock just after adding the foam to it. I think that would lock that pad to the stock really well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnamcentirev 5 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 That'd probably work great Berzerker2, let us know how it works! I just stuck mine in there, but if it comes out I might have to redo it with those screws if they work good for you good looking rifle by the way! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 Weird. Never had an issue with the buttpad when it was on the rifle or since I put it on my S12... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berzerker2 19 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Well I used the spray foam and it worked well and I added the black oval headed sheet metal screws to the butt pad and it's holding just fine. One major thing to look out for is that the foam is very messy to work with if you overdo it when filling the stock. I ruined a favorite shirt by having the foam leak out while I was working on it... my fault but does anyone know if that foam can be removed from garments after its set up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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