ultra7350 21 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 I want to get rid of the plastic thread protector on my new S12. I was thinking of a polychoke or a brake. I want something that works and looks cool. I really don't know which one to get. So what do other members have and like? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
evlblkwpnz 3,418 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 +1 for a PC..... it actually gives a noticeable benefit without being huge and heavy. They add a little weight and size, but not nearly as much weight or bulk as the brakes that actually give benefit. BTW I actually like the plastic thread protector. Light.... no tool required. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 First, pick what function you want... Choke, brake or flash hider. What are you going to do with the gun? Shoot clays & hunt, get a polychoke. Alot of targets, competition, get a good brake/comp. Just want it to look badass and impress the range idiots, buy whatever looks evil. Look here, http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-MUZZLE-BRAKES-dsh-COMPS-cln-SAIGA-12/Categories Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 ^^^ What he said. Personally, I like tighter groups and the extra range that a choke provides. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 It's a choke AND a bad-ass breacher-brake... http://store.carolinashooterssupply.com/servlet/-strse-561/Saiga-12-Poly-dsh-Choke-Breacher/Detail Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tommygunner 13 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) I like the poly choke with the vents/brake. They help reduce recoil quite a bit, and you can tune them to what ever type shot /slugs you are shooting. The vented Poly chokes IMO look good. They work good with slugs you can change the choke opening to match your gun and really tighten up your groups. Way better than an open bore gun or one with a fixed choke. Yeah they dont look bad azz like a breacher brake. But i would rather be able to put 3, 1oz slugs in a 4" circle at 50 yards than use my gun barrel to break down a door. With a Saiga and a 20 rnd drum you could just blast your way thru. Edited January 29, 2012 by tommygunner Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 I am very sold on the winchoke adapter I have. Look in the vendor's section for cobra's customs. Polychokes are better than nothing, but they always score badly in pattern comparisions against conventional screw in chokes of standard design. I haven't taken the trouble to do a pellet count on my own, but the pattern is pretty even and I can expect to reliably shoot clay at least 30 feet further than I can with cylinder bore. If you want something to look tacticool, and help with recoil a bit, I think the new tromix mini-monster is a stylish pick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ultra7350 21 Posted January 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 I like the looks of a barrel shroud. To bad you can not add a choke on the end of the shroud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vulcan16 971 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 I like the looks of a barrel shroud. To bad you can not add a choke on the end of the shroud. I've slotted one for sale. PM if interested. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ultra7350 21 Posted January 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 The barrel shrouds do look cool, but I won't be interested in one unless they make one the you can also add a polychoke to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6x6pinz 4 Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Polychoke on my S12 and S20 because I use them for hunting and wanted the versatility of the multiple choke settings. I run the Poly choke slotted version on all my hunting shotguns so the saigas are not special in that regard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sKott 26 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Factory Russian Flash hider. sKott 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobAsh 582 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Stock steel thread protector by day, flash hider by night. (null) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
D.C.MORRISON 494 Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 polychoke ll on mine. i want the versatility. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WI_Dave 26 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) I got the polychoke with breacher end. Best of both worlds Looks evil and has function. Edited February 5, 2012 by WI_Dave Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saiga Newbie 14 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 Will a Tromix muzzle break work if one wants to shoot buckshot and slugs out to 50 yards hunting pigs and deer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 yes. All of them will except for tight constricting chokes. That might be a good application for a brake model because of the heavy loads you will be using. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saiga Newbie 14 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 yes. All of them will except for tight constricting chokes. That might be a good application for a brake model because of the heavy loads you will be using. GunFun, thanks for the response. I have ordered my first Saiga; a RJF custom that has the break "permanently attached" due (I assume) to the shorter barrel (18" total). So I think I have one chance to make the right decison regarding the break. I have other shotguns for clay games so no need to set it up for trap/skeet/etc. Using the Saiga as my hog gun seems to make sense. Thanks again for your input and more would be welcome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) Well, I expect you will be happy with what you have ordered. If I was getting my barrel chopped and pinned or soldered, I think I would go for the extreme options to make it worth the bother. You could request internal threading for a winchoke for some extra money. Rem chokes have been done too, but they take up more sidewall. For slugs that isn't really needed, but I could see an improvement in usable range for buckshot. Edited February 6, 2012 by GunFun 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saiga Newbie 14 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Well, I expect you will be happy with what you have ordered. If I was getting my barrel chopped and pinned or soldered, I think I would go for the extreme options to make it worth the bother. You could request internal threading for a winchoke for some extra money. Rem chokes have been done too, but they take up more sidewall. For slugs that isn't really needed, but I could see an improvement in usable range for buckshot. Winchokes? Interesting. Would they be able to be used if the muzzle break was permanently attached? Would the Winchoke slide inside the muzzle break? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RED333 1,025 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Well, I expect you will be happy with what you have ordered. If I was getting my barrel chopped and pinned or soldered, I think I would go for the extreme options to make it worth the bother. You could request internal threading for a winchoke for some extra money. Rem chokes have been done too, but they take up more sidewall. For slugs that isn't really needed, but I could see an improvement in usable range for buckshot. Winchokes? Interesting. Would they be able to be used if the muzzle break was permanently attached? Would the Winchoke slide inside the muzzle break? http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/43443-s-12-winchoke-adapters/These do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) Winchokes? Interesting. Would they be able to be used if the muzzle break was permanently attached? Would the Winchoke slide inside the muzzle break? Tromix did it on a few builds with their brakes, and I am sure others have too, I just can't name any at the moment. I haven't heard anyone offering it recently, but you can ask. I know that there is a fair amount of variance in barrel dimensions, and sometimes the factory threads are not concentric or properly aligned to the bore. So it can be done and has, but maybe not on every s-12. Yes it slides inside. They made a long wrench to reach down in there. Tromix sells one right now for doing this with the Adkal. Edited February 6, 2012 by GunFun Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Saiga Newbie 14 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Excellent, guys. This solves my dilemma. I thought I had to choose between a muzzle break or a polychoke. This lets me have my cake and eat it too. Thanks so much for helping me sort this out. Much appreciated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MLM0358 107 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I modifed the Russian GK-01 muzzle brake so I could use internal chokes. I cut off the stock Saiga threads, cut internal choke threads in the barrel concentric with the bore, then bored out the threads on the GK-01 brake and made a slip fit on my barrel, then attached it with set screws. Now I've got it all- chokes and a very effective muzzle brake. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 You were able to do all that while still keeping it over 18"? Awesome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MLM0358 107 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 18.1" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted February 12, 2012 Report Share Posted February 12, 2012 Has the compensator shifted any with set screws? I've seen similar setups with other brakes before, but they were permanent atatchments. It was always unclear whether they had both external and internal threads or whether they slip fit like yours and soldered. Either way, that is awesome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shiner5455 9 Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 I have the Tromix Mini-Monster Brake and it is well worth it. It is not as big as its Big Brother and still performs great. I have shot light bird shot, heavy steel shot, and buck shot out of it without any problems. It also looks cool. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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