BOB A. BOOEY 45 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) Anyone have one of these on their shotgun? Is it true that this will hold the bold open and forgive my ignorance I would assume this process makes loading a full mag easier and ranges masters feel more at ease? Please let me know. Edited June 15, 2012 by BOB A. BOOEY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
getitat 609 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Hello They will, but so will that little thingie near your trigger, or your existing safety with a bit of Dremolition. -guido in Houston "God Loves Liberty" 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BOB A. BOOEY 45 Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Hello They will, but so will that little thingie near your trigger, or your existing safety with a bit of Dremolition. -guido in Houston "God Loves Liberty" I thought about the Dremelition but I also like the tab at the bottom that allows you to keep you hands on your pistol grip. Is there work to be done that makes the safety softer and easier to engage? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mullet Man 2,114 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Bending the safety out from the receiver a tiny bit will make it move a tad bit easier. The Krebs is the cleanest looking of all these types of safeties on the aftermarket, IMO. I have an extra Krebs safety for sale if you're interested. Its new in package. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FOURBUX 22 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Do be aware there are 2 variations on the Krebs safety lever - the Mk-VI and the MK-VI S. The MK-VI S is for the Saiga rifles and shotguns, the main difference being that the rounded bump is further down on the end of the lever so you won't have a second scratch after replacing the lever. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squishy 1,149 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 This topic is of great interest to me. I was at a gun show recently and a local smith had his personal AK there and after obtaining permission I handled it and noticed how smooth and easy his safety worked. He told me he'd gotten the lever at Brownells (I don't want to post a link but search "AK Safety" and it will come up). The manufacturer showed as being "Power Custom" and at first I thought it might have been made by Krebs or someone else and rebranded but after doing some research I found that Power Custom is a legit company. As I'm left handed my idea was to add the easier operating safety and on the end of the shaft that is exposed on the left side of the receiver, tap a hole and add a lever or some kind of AR type safety switch. This would allow me to operate the safety and with the notch for BHO I could hold the bolt back at the same time without moving my left hand from the pistol grip. I did try bending the stock lever out some on my MAK90 just to test it out and I found it returned to a real tight fit just like it had been. I didn't want to push it too much so I'm not saying this won't work. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socom688 217 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 I have one and love it. I can easily manipulate the safety with my index/trigger finger. I also got rid of the BHO when I converted the gun and just use the notch in the Krebs. Only problem is, since its for an AKM it will leave a second streak on the receiver. I don't give a damn about that though, but some people are OCD about that. I say buy it, you will love it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Have one, love it, and I won't have any other type of safety lever on any other AK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squishy 1,149 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Have one, love it, and I won't have any other type of safety lever on any other AK. I have one and love it. I can easily manipulate the safety with my index/trigger finger. I also got rid of the BHO when I converted the gun and just use the notch in the Krebs. Only problem is, since its for an AKM it will leave a second streak on the receiver. I don't give a damn about that though, but some people are OCD about that. I say buy it, you will love it. Ok, two glowing recommendations. I think I'm sold on the idea, especially for my new, yet to be converted S12. Another thing I'm curious about, obviously the intention with the original design is that by pressing on the side of the receiver, i.e. the thing that makes it a bitch to move from one position to the other (unless stops are added so it never goes off the top or bottom) is the pressure which also keeps the lever up or down in a secure way. Is the fact the aftermarket part moves so easily a non issue with regard to the safety changing positions unintentionally? What provides resistance to keep it on or off? This may seem somewhat anal but it is a "Safety" after all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) It has a little tit on it just like the original safety. With mine, the stop that is attached to the trigger guard stops it in the down position and the dust cover stops it in the up position (or the bolt when being used as a safety/bolt hold open).. I did a little filing to mine, both with the little groove that holds the bolt, and I trimmed the area behind the bolt at an angle so that I can rack the bolt straight back to chamber a round but still be "safe". I'll see about taking some pics tonight and getting them uploaded to better illustrate what I am talking about. Who knows, maybe I'll shoot a video if I'm feelin' frisky!!! Look out everybody! lol! Edited June 15, 2012 by Caged Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squishy 1,149 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Looking forward to the input. I'm fairly sure I'm going to go with it. I'm hoping tapping the shaft on the left side and adding a lever is doable as this will be a good thing for my left handed ass.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BOB A. BOOEY 45 Posted June 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 This topic is of great interest to me. I was at a gun show recently and a local smith had his personal AK there and after obtaining permission I handled it and noticed how smooth and easy his safety worked. He told me he'd gotten the lever at Brownells (I don't want to post a link but search "AK Safety" and it will come up). The manufacturer showed as being "Power Custom" and at first I thought it might have been made by Krebs or someone else and rebranded but after doing some research I found that Power Custom is a legit company. As I'm left handed my idea was to add the easier operating safety and on the end of the shaft that is exposed on the left side of the receiver, tap a hole and add a lever or some kind of AR type safety switch. This would allow me to operate the safety and with the notch for BHO I could hold the bolt back at the same time without moving my left hand from the pistol grip. I did try bending the stock lever out some on my MAK90 just to test it out and I found it returned to a real tight fit just like it had been. I didn't want to push it too much so I'm not saying this won't work. Theres a guy in MD that makes these special. Heres the video URL. Pretty cool if youre a lefty. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xid3G7KF9Zg&feature=player_embedded Do be aware there are 2 variations on the Krebs safety lever - the Mk-VI and the MK-VI S. The MK-VI S is for the Saiga rifles and shotguns, the main difference being that the rounded bump is further down on the end of the lever so you won't have a second scratch after replacing the lever. Yeah I ordered the shotgun model from CSS. Im putting those guys' kids through college. LOL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squishy 1,149 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 I saw mention of this in a few places but no attempt to show where one could be obtained. I did see the price though, $125. Hmmmm..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floyd9 30 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Made my own - painted it flat black at first before I finished it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squishy 1,149 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 That should work well if you're right handed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KennyFSU 249 Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 ^ Demelicious! In for frisky vids of Caged. No homo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squishy 1,149 Posted June 17, 2012 Report Share Posted June 17, 2012 (edited) It looks like all this guy did (I might be wrong) was take a Krebs Custom Saiga Sporting Configuration Safety™, cut it and added a tab (and $61 to the price). Looks like even a no fabbin mook like me could do something like this. To update this post I did some searching around and found the thread from the Maryland Shooters forum where the guy who did this posted. It seems he did use the Krebs Sporting Safety and took a tab called the "Solar Tactical AK Extended Safety Selector Tab" and welded it on rather than riveting like it is originally configured. These tabs were designed apparently to add to the stock safety which is effectively the same thing as the Krebs safeties with the bottom tab made into the safety lever. This guy did some good thinking by adding the tab to the part of the Sporting safety that protrudes rearward so it works well for lefties. I guess I'll be adding this to my three AK platform weapons. And the guy is a gunsmith with all his contact info in each of his posts if someone wanted to get in touch. Edited June 18, 2012 by Squishy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danklab 57 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 I've got one on every ak type weapon I own, and wouldn't have any other kind of safety for them. To me, it's one of the best aftermarket upgrades you can have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squishy 1,149 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 I've got one on every ak type weapon I own, and wouldn't have any other kind of safety for them. To me, it's one of the best aftermarket upgrades you can have. When you say "one" are you talking about the standard Krebs safety or the one modded for lefties? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Caged_Bird 474 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Sorry man, our TV crapped out this weekend so I've been busy replacing the giant projection screen with a giant flat screen and stand (for that much cash I could've had another S-12...) and then we had to go visit my folks for father's day. I'll take a couple of pics tomorrow... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BOB A. BOOEY 45 Posted June 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 It looks like all this guy did (I might be wrong) was take a Krebs Custom Saiga Sporting Configuration Safety™, cut it and added a tab (and $61 to the price). Looks like even a no fabbin mook like me could do something like this. To update this post I did some searching around and found the thread from the Maryland Shooters forum where the guy who did this posted. It seems he did use the Krebs Sporting Safety and took a tab called the "Solar Tactical AK Extended Safety Selector Tab" and welded it on rather than riveting like it is originally configured. These tabs were designed apparently to add to the stock safety which is effectively the same thing as the Krebs safeties with the bottom tab made into the safety lever. This guy did some good thinking by adding the tab to the part of the Sporting safety that protrudes rearward so it works well for lefties. I guess I'll be adding this to my three AK platform weapons. And the guy is a gunsmith with all his contact info in each of his posts if someone wanted to get in touch. Its looks as though he does good work but his pricing is way high. I wouldnt take anything up there. I think this is $75 for this set up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danklab 57 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I've got one on every ak type weapon I own, and wouldn't have any other kind of safety for them. To me, it's one of the best aftermarket upgrades you can have. When you say "one" are you talking about the standard Krebs safety or the one modded for lefties? Just the standard Krebs. I was more or less just responding to the OP's post. I'd never heard of the other guy's modded safety. I'm right handed, so it's a great solution for me... for a lefty.. you'd need a big ass thumb. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squishy 1,149 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 for a lefty.. you'd need a big ass thumb. Yep, no joy for a Lefty. But there's a solution to every problem...if you really want to find it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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