Z-MAG prototype "HOT" test

[Sergii 142]

http://youtu.be/l0ISzQo4aYE

 

 

 

By product https://www.facebook.com/alexandr.zalichev

Edited November 26, 2012 by Sergii

[Philemon9130 3]

Bad ass!

[traintrax 12]

Those are pretty slick. I bet they will be $$$

[ec4321 113]

I don't get it. What are they demonstrating?

 

I get they are hi-cap and have windows in the mags - anything else I am missing in what they do?

[DresNightfire 39]

When will these be available for US buyers?

[red_cedar 28]

They look like an extension to the factory vepr mags making them 10-12 rd magazines?

[TonyRumore 1,330]

That magazine release is pretty slick. Check it out at 53 seconds on the right hand side and 1.02 on the left hand side.

 

Tony

[thebuns1 4,323]

I'll take 10.

[presto_z 125]

Is this a max rounds extension covered in tape? And a Window cut into the mag? Maybe a US manufacturer will make extension base plates.

[gunfun 3,930]

I don't get what's special... That they have a hole to let crud in?

 

I guess if they all had plexiglass panels that would be ok.

[thebuns1 4,323]

I just want them cuz Im sick of the factory 5's and cant seem to find any 8's at a decent price.

[505Fire 2]

That magazine release is pretty slick. Check it out at 53 seconds on the right hand side and 1.02 on the left hand side.

 

Tony

Yeah I'm much more interested in the mag release than the mag extensions.

[DresNightfire 39]

I will attempt to contact Alexander. I've realized it's nothing more than a cut-out of the original vepr mag with home-made 5 round extension (like the maxrounds.com extension, but most likely from an existing chopped molot mag).

 

The magazine release is the same that is sold on shooters-shop ru with the push of the thumb. They even carry the mag clip there. The mag release is available and importable for US customers.

[505Fire 2]

I will attempt to contact Alexander. I've realized it's nothing more than a cut-out of the original vepr mag with home-made 5 round extension (like the maxrounds.com extension, but most likely from an existing chopped molot mag).

 

The magazine release is the same that is sold on shooters-shop ru with the push of the thumb. They even carry the mag clip there. The mag release is available and importable for US customers.

Could you provide a link to the mag release? I'm having a lot of trouble navigating the site. Do they possibly have a section of stuff that fits the Vepr or Saiga 12?

[Jeluvsk 58]

I took a few pics of one of my V12's since everybody is wanting to see more pics of the MOLOT mag release.

 

It really does make a big difference. mag drops with ease without removing hand off pistol grip, allowing other hand for mag change outs is pretty freakin nice!.

Edited August 8, 2013 by Jeluvsk

[PapaZorro 401]

I took a few pics of one of my V12's since everybody is wanting to see more pics of the MOLOT mag release.

 

It really does make a big difference. mag drops with ease without removing hand off pistol grip, allowing other hand for mag change outs is pretty freakin nice!.

It is not Molot Mag release, it is ONLY one of modification of Thumb Finger mag Release for V12/S12

 

Molot Thumb Finger Mag Release

 

 

 

IZMASH Thumb Finger Mag Release

 

 

 

 

Self-made Thumb Finger Mag Releases

 

 

 

As well as some more nice pics of left-handed shooter V12 modification

 

 

Edited August 8, 2013 by PapaZorro

[beefcakeb99 572]

Nice!

[gunfun 3,930]

Those all seem pretty kludgy to me.

[PapaZorro 401]

Those all seem pretty kludgy to me.

 

This type of mag release is the fastest available fo Verp-12/Saiga-12, as well as, very comfortable - the main purpose of it is SPORT appliance, were time saving is critical.

 

IMHO, from all Mag release pictured above, IZMASH is the best looking, in design, on the other they are working practically the same.

 

The effectiveness of Thumb Finger Release on V12/S12 is proved by Top World IPSC shooters, who use it on their shotguns, as practice show that guys use the best to get the best results on the competitions.

Edited August 8, 2013 by PapaZorro

[Dad2142Dad 6,559]

Those are great

[gunfun 3,930]

At the risk of sounding arrogant, I think my design is cleaner and equally fast. Similar ones are used on other platforms in competition as well, such as .22 silhouette shooting with 10/22.

 

If some would prefer, this type could easily be made with other materials such as welded or riveted steel, but I think this is the best design for speed simplicity and having it both ambidextrous and out of the way:

 

an old picture of it being activated.

This does not stick out to either side and can be activated with a flick of the index or middle finger without breaking grip. Additionally, the thumb of the support hand can optionally catch the tab in the normal location.

It has no articulated or sliding parts and needs no roller bearing. There is nothing sliding to bind, jamb, snag, or bend. Effectively there is only a magazine catch and a spring rather than a magazine catch, spring, sliding rod, rod guides ....

Edited August 8, 2013 by GunFun

[Dad2142Dad 6,559]

The last two for lefties is awesome PappaZ.

[Jeluvsk 58]

I stand corrected, good to have PAPPA here to explain Russian variants to manufacturers I'd still believing I had I real MOLOT

 

I really like the fit and finish of the magwell on the saiga 12 with the IZMASH Thumb Finger Mag Release is that a factory part? Not so crude of a design like the magwell on my V12 pictured above.

Edited August 8, 2013 by Jeluvsk

[PapaZorro 401]

As far as I know not Molot nor IZMASH sell this part separately from their IPSC shotgun version of V12 and S12.

 

Molot Thumb Finger Mag release is welded to the V12 receiver, I don't remember how it is fixed on S12, but it could be also none removable, fixed by two rivets.

[Jeluvsk 58]

I guess I can say I have an authentic Russian made part

 

Устройство быстрого сброса магазинов Сайга/Вепрь

[Dad2142Dad 6,559]

PappaZ on your blog you have the RAM release. How do you like that one?

[PapaZorro 401]

PappaZ on your blog you have the RAM release. How do you like that one?

I don't have the shotgun for sport yet:( When I'll buy it I want to have similar or original IZMASH construction but installed on V12, I also want to have their Al magwell

[gunfun 3,930]

Unfortunately the thread is deleted, but another variation on the styles that PZ posted was done rather nicely by Jack Travers on the monte carlo stocked race gun he built for a customer who prefered the unconverted layout. He welded a steel tube as a guide to the side of the receiver somewhat like the one PZ posted just below the Izhmash style.

[Mullet Man 2,114]

At the risk of sounding arrogant, I think my design is cleaner and equally fast. Similar ones are used on other platforms in competition as well, such as .22 silhouette shooting with 10/22.

 

If some would prefer, this type could easily be made with other materials such as welded or riveted steel, but I think this is the best design for speed simplicity and having it both ambidextrous and out of the way:

 

an old picture of it being activated.

This does not stick out to either side and can be activated with a flick of the index or middle finger without breaking grip. Additionally, the thumb of the support hand can optionally catch the tab in the normal location.

It has no articulated or sliding parts and needs no roller bearing. There is nothing sliding to bind, jamb, snag, or bend. Effectively there is only a magazine catch and a spring rather than a magazine catch, spring, sliding rod, rod guides ....

So its like the RAM catch/release just in a more awkward location?

[gunfun 3,930]

nope it's in a nicer location. immediately in front of your finger. by all means though, put yours where you want it.