netstorm 90 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 (edited) Send multiple copies of pictures through the mail to yourself featuring your firearms, accessories, mags etc. Keep a few copies in your safe, at your relatives house, or wherever it is safe and they remain sealed. If a ban happens this can save you from getting harassed, or being brought up on charges of possessing illegal firearms, or accessories. You could also probably send digital picture files to your own email which will be timestamped. Edited December 21, 2012 by netstorm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 No 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Let us know how that goes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mostholycerebus 415 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Also send a copy to the ATF, so they know you really had them before the ban? Sounds legit. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 I'll pass. Ban or not, the date will be on the 4473 when the gun is purchased. Unless it was a private sale, and in that case, I'll pass again on doing that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theorangeplanet 968 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Burden of proof is on the prosecution, not us, the innocent. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shankspony 40 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 I don't see this doing any good for me. I'm not copyrighting something here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chevyman097 2,579 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 ummmm NO 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Title of the thread is "if a ban happens" and if it did, the OP's suggestion is not a bad one. It's the same common practice as is recommended by any homeowner/renters insurance outfit - photograph or document the stuff you own so that you can prove you owned it if you have no receipts. Not saying that I like the idea of having to do it, but I have zero receipts and no way to prove when/where I bought my firearms. Burden of proof on prosecution? Remind me of the last time any three-letter agency bothered to have proof on their side before they seized someone's property. If your stuff is seized, the sad fact is that YOU will be proving your legitimate ownership of it, not them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
U.S. Pratorean 1,234 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Burden of proof on prosecution? Remind me of the last time any three-letter agency bothered to have proof on their side before they seized someone's property. If your stuff is seized, the sad fact is that YOU will be proving your legitimate ownership of it, not them. You got that right and when your collection is paraded before the media you will be portrayed as a white supremist, pedophilic, homophobic, right wing, religious (probably Christian) terrorist with a stockpiled illegal arsenal. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 I can understnd the thought behind the OP, but it's not the route I'm going to use either. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theorangeplanet 968 Posted December 21, 2012 Report Share Posted December 21, 2012 Burden of proof on prosecution? Remind me of the last time any three-letter agency bothered to have proof on their side before they seized someone's property. If your stuff is seized, the sad fact is that YOU will be proving your legitimate ownership of it, not them. Remind me of a time they conceited to someone being able to prove ownership by showing home-made documents? Attempting to disprove my assertion by claiming another than cannot be demonstrated is pointless. I stand by basic principles of American law. If you no longer have faith in the tenants of the system, what makes you think some home-made proof of ownership isn't just going to get swept under the rug or otherwise be discounted? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mogunner 240 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 I have pictures and descriptions of all my firearms along with scans of the receipts from when I bought them, but not for that purpose, mine are in case some dirtbag manages to get into my house and past my six dogs, cuts open my gun cabinet and makes off with the contents. I have a printed copy plus a saved one in my email so that I can access it in case they steal my computer and file cabinet as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bagman 2 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Guns, what guns? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 If its for a theft type of reason I could see it being useful, but not for proving its a preban type of mess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
devildogdakota 804 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Great idea! Here's my pictures... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spacehog 2,218 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Burden of proof on prosecution? Remind me of the last time any three-letter agency bothered to have proof on their side before they seized someone's property. If your stuff is seized, the sad fact is that YOU will be proving your legitimate ownership of it, not them. You got that right and when your collection is paraded before the media you will be portrayed as a white supremist, pedophilic, homophobic, right wing, religious (probably Christian) terrorist with a stockpiled illegal arsenal. But I am an ethnic, gay, liberal, atheist with a stock piled illegal arsenal, so I should be OK right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odd Man Out 1,283 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Wonder how many of us have picts of some our weapons here on the forum someplace???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VR762Shooter 838 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Wonder how many of us have picts of some our weapons here on the forum someplace???? No one here owns firearms anymore. We have lost them and we have now turned this into the bible study forum. Nothing to see here....... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike U. 51 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 (edited) I think the OP's idea is good. I already have pics scattered around. Kept all my receipts, too. However, many of my guns are inherited, and, therefore, have no paper trail. uh-oh... Now, having said that, fffpatriot wins for best post in this thread. While I'm giving out awards, Captain Hero wins for best avatar, ever! I swear, sometimes I hate coming across his posts, because, I always end up having missing time. Edited December 22, 2012 by John U. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 you know that the unconfirmed rumor is that thing in his avatar is in fact a ladyboy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thebuns1 4,323 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 you know that the unconfirmed rumor is that thing in his avatar is in fact a ladyboy Until I see proof, Im leaving it be. lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pony_express1973 183 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Wonder how many of us have picts of some our weapons here on the forum someplace???? No one here owns firearms anymore. We have lost them and we have now turned this into the bible study forum. Nothing to see here....... AMEN Brother Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dad2142Dad 6,559 Posted December 23, 2012 Report Share Posted December 23, 2012 you know that the unconfirmed rumor is that thing in his avatar is in fact a ladyboy Dude ladyboy's just can't eat enough rice to make something like that 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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