1919 Shotty 2 Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 So I was reading on the Tromix website, and it states," Gun must be 922r compliant in order to legally use this part with a non-fixed stock." So does this mean I can get a Galil Style stock from Carolina Shooter Supply and get a side folding mechanism and have it legal? Or is that still illegal? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HB of CJ 1,263 Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 I think we need more specific information. What exact part? Example....use of a aftermarket high cap mag, (more than 5 rds) on a stock non compliant 922r Saiga 12 with a threaded barrel MAY be in violation. You need more 922r parts to legally run the aftermarket hi cap mag. HB of CJ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1919 Shotty 2 Posted February 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Sorry, Tony's MKA 1919 stock adapter. And since a Galil style stock is fixed, could it be done even if I don't have 4 922r parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KIRCH76 12 Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 if the stock is fixed you can run it on a stock gun but if it can fold or collapse its not legal on a stock gun Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TigerMoses 31 Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Has anyone ever heard of anyone get a 922 inspection on their weapon? Seems like this is really a "dealer better not sell non-compliant" concern. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 This is what I dont get, You can buy the 1919 legal, you can buy the 10 round mag legal, but when you put the 2 together = illegal I say BULLSHIT. If I can buy the 2 legal then I can use the 2 legal. I said it before and I'll say it again.....SCARE TACTICS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toothandnail 275 Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 This is what I dont get, You can buy the 1919 legal, you can buy the 10 round mag legal, but when you put the 2 together = illegalI say BULLSHIT. If I can buy the 2 legal then I can use the 2 legal. I said it before and I'll say it again.....SCARE TACTICS. Problem is Your(WE) aren't as "SMART" as the ones makin the laws We just don't understand Are there some other similar laws ? ? ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
voonman 133 Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 i guess its like when you buy a sbr upper legally you can also buy any lower legally..but when you put the two together you become in serious violation of the law Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toothandnail 275 Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Another , pistol + vertical foregrip = -$$$$$ , still stupid, IMO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1919 Shotty 2 Posted February 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 Ok, so I'm gonna order the trigger group and a piston from Carolina Shooter Supply and I can't decide which to get, a regular M4 stock and buffer tube, or a fixed stock. I want a folding stock, but I would also like Vltors shotgun buffer tube with storage inside of it: http://www.vltor.com/images/ssttube1-600.jpg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
congewe 14 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 http://gunwiki.net/Gunwiki/BuildMKA1919VerifyCompliance Hey found this site with a Checklist for 922® compliance on MKA 1919 builds. Just check the boxs with your USA manufactured parts and it tells you if yout 922® compliant. If it is accurate I am 922r compliant and was not aware. 1. Tromix trigger 2. Tromix disconnector 3. Tooth and Nail forearm, handguard 4. Tooth and Nail operating rods (cocking handle) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toothandnail 275 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 NICE FIND! I may have to put a link to that page on my site , should save A LOT of emails/questions. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Haycock 9 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 (edited) i thought if you cut off the stock and replace it with a USA made stock that counts as one also. same with the grip. EDIT: nevermind, i just realized that it cancels itself out because it wasnt counted before. Edited February 26, 2013 by Haycock Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pizzim 0 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Last i checked the op rod is not the charging handle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
congewe 14 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Wiki Answers states as follows: Question - What is an Operating rod in a gun? Answer - A mechanical device used to open/close a part of the firearm. Does not mean they are correct though. If the charge handle does not qualify as a operating rod I'm curious what part of the firearm does. Not curious enough to contact the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms cowboys though. They have friends with bigger guns than me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pizzim 0 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 (edited) thats about the least detailed definiation i could imagine (gota love wiki, or more so the people that answer the questions) The " charging handle " can/could be connected to an oprod but it itself is not an oprod The Scamatic for the 1919 shows the "oprod" as the rod most people refer to as a guide rod as the drive block rides on. two interesting point to this ... with the T&N forend it uses the factory part .... on the FBP forend it used a US made part however FBP has been advised by ATF that it doesn not count as a compliance part..... which by wiki defination isnt the oproad as it doesnt move at all. To add a little more confusion the best think to be described as an oprod on the 1919 (not every gun has one by the way) would be the action bar assembly that the 1919 owners manual calls the bolt carrier so if you ask me .... there is no "oprod" to replace on the 1919 Edited February 26, 2013 by pizzim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
congewe 14 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 That made my brain hurt. A.T.F. Absolute, Total, Fuc, well you can complete as you see fit. A legal world is a complex world. pizzim, thanks for your input. I should have known the 922R stuff would not be so simple. The trigger and disconnector still counts right? Seems no one has a fight with Tromix. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ignition 9 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Hammer, trigger, disconnector, hand guard, and gas plug. These are 5 out of the 4 needed parts that are the "easiest" to replace without issue. If you can get 4 then you dont have to monkey around with mag body/mag floor plates Quote Link to post Share on other sites
congewe 14 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Gas plug? OMG what is that? What happened to the days when you could just slap a I hate commies sticker on anything and that would make it ok? I'm beginning to understand why old people die and I'm not liking it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Haycock 9 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Gas plug? OMG what is that?What happened to the days when you could just slap a I hate commies sticker on anything and that would make it ok? I'm beginning to understand why old people die and I'm not liking it. i think hes refering to the gas piston Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pizzim 0 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Trigger, disconnect, hammer, piston .... cheapest way to go .... easiest would be a follower, floorplate, piston, forearm but is alot more expensive depending on the number of mags you intend to use Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BellaCorse 4 Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 4. Tooth and Nail operating rods (cocking handle) I asked the question before about if the new guide rod that comes with a charge handle equipped forend is considered a 922® part in itself and was told no. This did not make any sense to me as the part the new guide rod replaces is called by Akdal an "operating rod." Of course, all this 922® compliance is fairly moot. As I said before, if you've got the ATF tearing your firearms apart looking for foreign made parts, or not enough US parts... you're in a world of hurt far worse than a hacked-off butt stock and an oversized magazine. /M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ignition 9 Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Yeah i meant gas piston Quote Link to post Share on other sites
congewe 14 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 No problem Captain. Actually I knew what you ment. I was just being an ass for my personal amusement. I'm the funniest person I know. Even that amuses me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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