Skitterfish 10 Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 I've had my S12 for about six years now and have finally gotten tired of it burning my size XXL paws during rapid fire practice so I'm in the market for a shroud. I'd love some information about the various makes and models available and pictures of them installed would be great. Thanks for any help you all can offer! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 (edited) Screw sticking a heavy shroud on it, learn to keep your mitts off hot barrels and on the forearm. Edited September 4, 2013 by ChileRelleno 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skitterfish 10 Posted September 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 Thanks for the reply, but my hands are big enough to engulf the afg on my chaos forend and still contact the barrel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3rdgeargrndrr 31 Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 (edited) c cant say it works yet though CSS handguard barrel shroud - let me find a picture of it unpainted edit: found it FYI: I don't care if anyone likes the black better, Its my gun Edited September 4, 2013 by 3rdgeargrndrr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deadeye 325 Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 the vented steel gas tube cover for a sks works great on the s12 gas tube. Just pinch it in a little to make a snug fit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChileRelleno 7,071 Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 (edited) Man if your hands are big enough to fully cover a Chaos quad rail and still touch the barrel... You're a hamfisted freak! Now if you've a tri-rail and are touching the gas tube, well then yeah, I know where you're coming from. And deadeye and I have the same problem and same fix. And don't buy some over priced, re-packaged, S12 labeled vented handguard. Buy the $10.00 SKS vented handguard, same thing, no mods needed, fits perfectly. But you probably want a shroud regardless. I gave one away in a contest, I had time to mess with it, mount it and what not. Didn't like it too much, too heavy and not enough ventilation. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/82523-contest-2-for-the-guntech-s12-barrel-shroud/?hl=shroud Edited September 4, 2013 by ChileRelleno 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skitterfish 10 Posted September 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 The problem I'm having is that even with a full quad rail and afg that my index finger and thumb still have frequent contact with the barrel and yes I really am a ham fisted freak Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MLM0358 107 Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 I thought a barrel shroud was the shoulder thing that goes up. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3rdgeargrndrr 31 Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 Have you tried a vertical grip? Not really to grab onto but to index your lower three fingers and bring your hand down the handguard slightly. And when you say barrel shroud do you mean gas tube cover? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skitterfish 10 Posted September 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 I havnt tried a vertical grip but I do use a afg for the purpose of indexing my hand but my gorilla arm's get my hands way out front on the forend letting me touch the barrel. I'm not referring to the gas tube cover, the quad rail does a great job of keeping my hands off that. I'm looking at the tubular shrouds that slip over the barrel and screw on the the choke threads. And perhaps a shoulder thing that goes up too...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theKobudera 1 Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 ALU shroud. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skitterfish 10 Posted September 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 I like the look of the ALU shrouds quite a bit. Do they do a good job of staying cool to the touch after extensive firing? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theKobudera 1 Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 I'll admit that my memory is a bit fuzzy on how hot the shroud gets as I don't really make a point of touching it after extensive firing. I want to say that it was still fairly hot. I'm going to try to get to the range this week; if I do, I'll try to remember to pay attention. Sorry for the non-answer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pedal2alloy 206 Posted September 4, 2013 Report Share Posted September 4, 2013 The problem I'm having is that even with a full quad rail and afg that my index finger and thumb still have frequent contact with the barrel and yes I really am a ham fisted freak You must be quite popular with the ladies... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skitterfish 10 Posted September 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Thanks pedal for the useful info......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MegamanX 65 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 (edited) deadlyThis isnt my saiga 12 but this is the barrel shroud/brake thats on mine +1 for ALU-1 for his 2 1/2 month wait timeI also have a chaos titan rail on my set up Edited September 10, 2013 by Makc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pedal2alloy 206 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 Thanks pedal for the useful info......... This is their reaction: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skitterfish 10 Posted September 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 MegamanX, I do like the ALU offerings and have also heard of the long turn around time. How effective is the built-in break on that shroud? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 I can't find a pic of mine but here is a video of when I had it installed. It did a good job of keeping the barrel cool but added a little too much weight so I went back to the sharkbreak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skitterfish 10 Posted September 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 King of the Hill, thanks for the video and weight info. What brand of shroud was that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lbsrdi 1,078 Posted September 8, 2013 Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 I got it from MAA, here is a pic I just snapped of it. Now that I picked it up for the first time in over a year it really doesn't weigh that much, I think it is just because all of the weight is at the front of the gun that makes it seem heavy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skitterfish 10 Posted September 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2013 I've seen that shroud listed on their sight. I'm looking at a few different manufacturers all with the holes drilled all the way through which would remove more weight and further aid in cooling. Anyone have information on the Kineti-Tech products? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MegamanX 65 Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 ALU makes a shit ton of shrouds for a shit ton of different guns. For the saiga 12 though he has a lot of nice ones. Most of them in my opinion are more aesthetic as oppose to functional. However the Archangel break is a beast in looks and function. I used to use a few different breaks but im sticking with this one by a long shot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skitterfish 10 Posted September 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 This is the shroud I'm seriously considering. It looks good and I think it will provide a serious amount of cooling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MegamanX 65 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 cooling wise yea. but I just had to get a muzzie brake combo. the alumadude isnt just limited to the designs he shows many people come to him with their own designs or ideas and he will come up with some blue prints or whatever on his computer and show you. Ive seem some really crazy creative cool shit hes done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skitterfish 10 Posted September 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 It really would be nice to have a truly custom shroud but I don't need the comp feature as cool as it would be. I'll most likely go with the above unit due to functionality, price and shipping time... and I think it looks badass and keeps with the look of the way my s12 is set up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gpqueen 545 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 c cant say it works yet though CSS handguard barrel shroud - let me find a picture of it unpainted edit: found it FYI: I don't care if anyone likes the black better, Its my gun Nice job on the build. It looks fantastic. We have the only barrel shroud on the market that will allow you to also mount a muzzle brake to give you the best of both worlds. There are no wait times with our shrouds and only $79-$99 dependng on the model. http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/category_s/1892.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skitterfish 10 Posted September 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Cobra, thanks for taking the time to post the pics and reply. Those are some fine looking saigas! It's good to know that they really do aid cooling to that level as that's the primary reason I'm in the market for a shroud. I would probably go with a ALU but I can't justify the extra cost and turn around time just to get a heatsink even if its a very high end heatsink.CSS. I do like those shrouds but I'm trying to keep the OAL of the firearm down to a minimum. If I do another build it would be interesting to use one of your shrouds with a monster break and try to make a bipod slug gun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gpqueen 545 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 CSS. I do like those shrouds but I'm trying to keep the OAL of the firearm down to a minimum. If I do another build it would be interesting to use one of your shrouds with a monster break and try to make a bipod slug gun. We have others also that keep the barrel length down with an OAL of 8.5". http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/product_p/css-barrel-shroud-holes.htm http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/product_p/css-barrel-shroud-slots.htm http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/product_p/css-barrel-shroud-solid.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VladTepes 160 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 how can your thumb and index finger contact when using an AFG... that does not make any sense at all.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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