Tin Foil Hat Time Again...

[YOT 3,743]

Yeah.... This FBI propaganda prolly came out yesterday just because we were talking about it here.  

Be sure to scroll down to "Newtown". 

 

 

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/8tabledatadecpdf/table-8-state-cuts/table_8_offenses_known_to_law_enforcement_by_connecticut_by_city_2012.xls#disablemobile

 

http://www.infowars.com/fbi-says-no-one-killed-at-sandy-hook/

[Big John! 2,062]

thanks john

 

 

 

Im just surprised at what you can make people believe contrary to overwhelming solid evidence .

 

 

A few videos a massive amount of disinformation, incorrect supposition, so called experts with no credentials.

 

Roll it all up in a ball and people swallow it.

And then those same people refuse to listen or see any other explanation no matter how correct it may be.

 

Its EXACTLY how the liberals behave, no amount of truth or fact can change the way they see things.

And if you disagree, there is no counter evidence displayed, no discussion, no exchange of ideas.

pick one of their issues, it will get you the same response.

 

It turns to name calling.

 

disappointed

 

Please read the sentence that i wrote that irritated you so much, is it really that unrealistic to consider ?

You assumed that I'm devoid of any critical thinking because I don't believe what you believe.  You didn't dig into this.  You simply said that it couldn't be a scam because too many people would have to be involved.

 

I can't stand Alex Jones.  I look at different things and take away what I think is relevant.  A lot of this shit out there is just that...  Shit.  There is also some very good information out there, but you have to be willing to spend the time to dig into it which you are not.

 

Instead of me digging and stating a case that you will not listen to anyhow.  How about you explain a few things to me?

 

99.xxx kill ratio.  Some shot up to 11 times?  

 

Not a single person triage'd, nor taken to the hospital.  Who pronounced?

 

Why so much photoshopping and green screen?

 

Why no photo's with Robby Parker physically touching Emily?

 

What was so funny at the infamous Robby Parker interview and why would any father whom just lost his daughter have to get into character of sadness?

 

Why was the school more secure after said shooting and why was it pulverized with not even a single nail left to be found?

 

These are the simple questions.  I can't wait till I get off work today to see what you come up with.  

[Big John! 2,062]

I also find this kind of shit highly suspect.  This vid funny as well...  But hey, I have no rational thought so everything is funny to me.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDxoe-coAAI

[james lambert 3,059]

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[D.C.MORRISON 494]

Big John, First I will say that I am guilty, possibly more than you. Guilty of "casting pearls before swine". Some folks are simply not reachable. Many have grown to accept or maybe enjoy their enslavement. They derive their sense of safety from man made institutions. They have a need to feel special, or elite. So naturally when failings or outright deviance is pointed out. Concerning these institutions or corporations. They take it as a personal attack. They would never entertain the thought that their institution. Really should be disbanded altogether or rebuilt from the ground up. Regardless of the level of corruption or ineffectiveness. Quite the opposite. They always seek to expand. More taxes, larger budgets, new bigger buildings, more expensive techy toys. 99.999% of those that live off the back of the taxpayer. Will never let you open the warm fuzzy cocoon.

Sorry for going completely off the rails.

[james lambert 3,059]

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[poolingmyignorance 2,191]

Here's what screws me up with the conspiracy theories.

I've seen the Robie Parker interview,and he did appear very much to be an actor on set. And the medical examiner, seemed pretty phony too.

However what I don't understand is why use actors at all? If they're looking to really make shit happen, why wouldn't they just kill all those kids,or bomb those people? What's the advantage?

[james lambert 3,059]

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[Spartacus 1,619]

I'm not saying this is what happened, but if we assume for a moment that Sandy Hook was all a complete fabrication, the deconstruction of what happened may be easier to understand than expected.

 

All involved would fit in a single auditorium. They would have been shown slide shows of flags waving, children playing, all that is right with America. Then they would be shown pictures of shootings and dead people, with the caption, "This must stop!".

 

Then the narration would continue, "You now have the chance to be a part of history. Part of the solution to this horrible gun violence. We have a plan to free America from gun violence and you will be a part of it!"

 

"We will act out a scene that is so horrific, something that could actually happen, that all Americans will agree it's time to ban the guns."

"We are doing this because evil people in our government are controlled by the NRA, it's the only way out."

 

So imagine an auditorium of eastern libs with a rah-rah plan to save America who have all signed secrecy agreements.

It's curious that very few people actually entered the school building after the shooting and witnessed the alleged carnage.

 

Again, not saying that's what happened, but who knows.... all we are given are lies and misinformation on this incident.

Personally, I think it's much more likely that .gov actually did the killings and blamed it on the crazy kid.

 

Lookup "Operation Northwoods"....  .gov has had plans to carry out false flags and to kill Americans going back a long time.

The guy that rejected Operation Northwoods ended up getting wacked in Dallas near the grassy knoll.

[james lambert 3,059]

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[Spartacus 1,619]

>>so how many people that are your friends would go along with that.

 

Not many. A few.  (the .gov did it version)

 

 

>>and show me what was gained if it were true.

 

The goals are self-explanatory.

 

 

>>and thanks for a civil conversation!

 

Sure, back at ya. Most of us in this forum are on the same side.

We certainly disagree on this stuff, but I think we all seek the truth.

Edited September 25, 2014 by Spartacus

[Big John! 2,062]

Big John is the greatest guy in the world.

Edited September 27, 2014 by Big John!

[lbsrdi 1,078]

 

 

if thats what people think is evidence ....i rest my case.

 

 

an expert in the field would have been nice

 

So the boston bombing was also faked, all those people were acting, and it was a conspiracy so the police could just go nuts.

Or for what ever reason ??

YOU are the prosecution here YOU have the case to prove not me.

 

Again the sentence that inflamed you is not out of bounds,nor is it an insult. 

 

again I rest my case.

 

That's what I thought.  

 

I have nothing to prove to you.  Shouldn't you be out beating someone in handcuffs?

I don't consider this evidence or an expert but it is on topic so I'm posting it here cause everyone loves Alex here.

[Big John! 2,062]

[Matthew Hopkins 1,065]

[lbsrdi 1,078]

Buckle up or our government enforcement agents will initiate a stop because they care about you. And because they care, search your vehicle to make sure you don't have any non-government approved vegetables or plants on your person. If so, here's a loving knee in the back to protect you.

[Matthew Hopkins 1,065]

Buckle up or our government enforcement agents will initiate a stop because they care about you. And because they care, search your vehicle to make sure you don't have any non-government approved vegetables or plants on your person. If so, here's a loving knee in the back to protect you.

 

 

that ain't shit, buckwheat,  look what smokey will do to you if you start a fire.

 

 

Edited September 25, 2014 by Matthew Hopkins

[vepr12x 89]

So hard to believe they could attempt to pull this off?? When you print and have access to pretty much unlimited cash?? The ability to silence and disappear people with no reprecussions?? Millions of brainless idiots who will believe and follow anything, under your control??

 

They have millitary bases as big or bigger than newtown so why couldnt they move their people in to populate? Have you ever been to newtown? Its small as hell and not a place outsiders would have any reason to visit. Its a insignificant town that nobody cares about.

 

Everybody wants to joke about "tinfoil" when time after time the tinfoilers turn out to be right, thats the game. Just write them off as crazy and ignore, even though you have no "facts" but what was spoon fed to you by the mainstream media. Show me any fact that proves anybody even died there. The evidence is overwhelming that what happened isnt what the official story is. Unfourtunately you have to use your brain to see this instead of blindly just following what your told.

[vepr12x 89]

Why were the victims familys and key gov player. Homes gifted for $0 on 12/25/09? Thats right christmas day, the day when all city offices are closed? And you could say it was because they installed new software but then why hasnt it been fixed in their records even to this day?

 

Two of the victims familys both won the ct lottery twice for a total of four times!! Your kidding right? No and they were for significant sums, look it up.

 

Why was adam lanza pronounced dead and his death certificate say he died the day before sandy hook shooting? Official document look it up.

 

How were all victims pronounced officially dead within 11 mins??

 

How come there were no trauma helicopters called in or even put on standby?

 

How did lanza achieve a 99% kill rate?? Even navy seals cant do that.

 

Lanzas father was indicated in a billion dollar scandal (libor) along with holmes (auora shooter) father. Hmm thats really convienent.

 

Oct 2012-hurricane sandy destroys sandyhook nj

-hurricane sandy wasnt supposed to hit the tri state area but it "hooked" to come back and hit ny/nj/ct. Sandy hooked and hit sandy hook. A month and a half later, sandy hook shooting

 

I could go on and on, and none of it is opinion. Its a scary fact that cops believe the official story and have access to millitary weapons and "authority" over other humans lives.

[vepr12x 89]

http://www.sandyhookjustice.com/information.html

 

Wolfgang Halbig-Millitary veteran, former customs agent, former fl state trooper, former school principal and one of THE top school security experts in the country. He wrote the emergency response plan that the school the presidents kids attend uses, hes gotta be a tinfoil nutcase right?

[read_the_wall 614]

no lawsuits

 

that says it all

 

May 27, 1999 -- A $250 million wrongful-death lawsuit was filed by the family of Isaiah Shoels against the parents of the gunmen.

October 4, 1999 -- The families of Kelly Fleming and Daniel Rohrbough filed a federal lawsuit against the school district for removing from Columbine the memorial tiles they painted on July 20. The reason the tiles were removed: They were painted with religious themes, which the rules that were issued on the day of the painting forbade (no controversial subjects or anything that might make returning students uncomfortable).

October 17, 1999 -- The families of 20 Columbine students - including the Klebolds - filed notices of intent to sue the sheriff's department and/or the school district because of the massacre.

In all there were 17 lawsuits filed by victims of the school tragedy who sought to make someone accountable for the tragic events. Those named in suits included school officials, law enforcement officials, the manufacturer of a drug prescribed for Harris - Taylor and Solvay Pharmaceuticals Inc.- gun dealers and three young people who helped the teen shooters obtain guns, in addition to the killers' parents. All were either settled or dismissed.

While many of the settlements were confidential and several families turned down the money they were offered, the largest single settlement made public was $1.5 million from the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department, which went to the family of teacher Dave Sanders.






Sandy Hook occurred on December 14, 2012...

To date, only one known lawsuit was filled 13 days after the shooing. A few days later it was withdrawn.
 

[vepr12x 89]

^booyah

 

Going by some of the sandy hook parents video interviews, they werent upset about their children being supposedlly being murdered. The lottery winnings and free half million dollar homes along with the publics generous contributions to the familys mustve eased their pain. Robbie parker sure didnt waste anytime setting up a fund raising site.

Edited September 26, 2014 by vepr12x

[james lambert 3,059]

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[Spartacus 1,619]

http://www.sandyhookjustice.com/information.html

 

Wolfgang Halbig-Millitary veteran, former customs agent, former fl state trooper, former school principal and one of THE top school security experts in the country. He wrote the emergency response plan that the school the presidents kids attend uses, hes gotta be a tinfoil nutcase right?

 

 

Listen to this man with an open mind.

 

Listen.

[Big John! 2,062]

Sorry i disagreed 

 

silly of me to think I was allowed to have an opinion.

[Big John! 2,062]

Lanza supposedly took his own life with a Glock 20 10MM pistol with a shot to the head.  The good sheep believe that the bullet traveled through his head and straight out of his hat without taking off the top of his head and filling this hat with blood and brain matter.  

 

 

 

 

But, the bullet did manage to pull some nice long hairs before exiting the hat.

 

[Big John! 2,062]

The glass is not ground up from multiple troopers’ boots having crushed it

This photograph (like the one immediately above) was taken by the Connecticut State Police Crime Lab on 14 December 2012 as official crime scene photographs. Ask yourself about the truthfulness of the ten following affidavits, which I have taken from the Sandy Hook script to illustrate why their statements are not credible and appear to be false, which means that those who signed them may have committed perjury. Here is the content of their affidavits with my comments:

1. STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY

INVESTIGATION REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 2/3/06)

CFS Report#: 1200704559 - 00017426

INCIDENT ADDRESS

INCIDENT DATE TIME 12/14/2012 09:41

00012 Dickinson Dr Dr/ Newtown 06482

ACTION TAKEN:

BADGE NO

0837

On 12/14/12 at approximately 0930 hours, I was parked at Troop A writing a report in my vehicle. Dispatcher Brennan put out a radio transmission that there was an active shooter at a school in Newtown. I put my vehicle in gear and headedwestbound on 1-84. I asked dispatch which exit to use to get to the school.

As I approached the front entrance of the school, I observed the broken glass on the ground near the doors. I observed several troopers and police officers inside the lobby of the school. I entered the school through the broken glass window on the right side of the main doors.

WHY? How is that possible when they the police officers inside could have opened the doors and not disturb the crime scene? Here is another unbelievable sworn police officers statement:

2.  STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY

INVESTIGATION REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 2/3/06)

CFS Report#: 1200704559 – 00019631

BADGE NO

0174

Action Taken: On 12/14/2012 at approximately 0930 hours, I was at the Woodbury Resident Trooper’s Office completing paperwork, when I heard Troop L broadcast that Newtown was responding to an active shooter incident. Upon hearing this, I left my office and responded towards Newtown in my assigned cruiser.

I arrived at the scene.

As I pulled into the parking lot, I parked my vehicle away from the main entrance and behind several rows of cars that could be used for cover.

I exited my vehicle and retrieved my shotgun from the trunk and observed TFC Blumenthal #690, do the same. We then proceeded towards the main entrance of the building.

As I approached, I observed a large hole in the glass window to the right of the main doors, which were closed. TFC Blumenthal and I entered the building through the hole in the glass window.

WHY? How is that even possible when that window has shattered glass everywhere and all of the broken hanging glass could have seriously injured someone? It is alleged to be a crime scene.

3.  STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY INVESTIGATION REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 2/3/06)

CFS Report#: 1200704559 – 00026724

BADGE NO

0149

On December 14, 2012, I was the dayshift supervisor at Troop A. At 0937 I was in my assigned cruiser in the Kmart Plaza,South Main Street, Southbury, when I heard the first transmission from Dispatcher Betsy Brennan of an active shooter at theSandy Hook School, Newtown. I made my way to 1-84 west via the #15 on ramp as I instructed all my western patrols toward the school, with the eastern patrols to start heading in that direction (CSP radio time: 09:37:38). I also told my deskman, TFC Chris Kick #811, to get an address for us so that we did not have to look for it.

While en route, Regional Dispatch De~kman TFC Loomis broadcasted more than once that the shooter was in the mainoffice area.

As our cars were coming to a stop, Lt. Hofbauer radioed that he and Msgt. Davis had arrived (CSP radio time: 09:46:30). I did not sign off at the scene. We immediately exited our cars and ran toward the school’s entrance with our handgunsdrawn. Lt Hofbauer ran along the driveway, in front of parked cars.

Msgt. Davis and I ran behind this row of parked cars and then turned left, between parked cars, to run toward the frontdoor. We all re-grouped as we got closer to the entrance. I could not clearly see through the glass, but I could see a very large hole shattered in the glass to the right of the main doors.

I remember considering that the front doors might be locked, and I did not want to stop moving until I was somewhere with cover. I know that I considered going through the window. As we approached the door I remember seeing Lt. Hofbauer’s hand grab the door handle, and that I was off to his right. I do not remember how I entered the school, but it may have been through the window.

HOW CAN YOU NOT REMEMBER?  The lie comes in a later report. How can a sworn trained police officer not remember how he and the other officers entered the school on Dec 14, 2012?

4.  STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY INVESTIGATION REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 2/3/06)

CFS Report#: ~-200704559 - ·00251204:

Action Taken:

BADGE NO

0842

On 12/14/12 at approximately 0935 hours, I was in my assigned cruiser off duty in the Town of Southbury when I heard aradio broadcast for an ”active shooter” at the Sandy Hook Elementary School, 12 Dickinson Street, Newtown, Connecticut.

I immediately responded to the school, following the directions that were being broadcast over the radio. I arrived a short time later, at the same time as Trooper Cipriano. When I arrived at the school, I observed several civilians behind the parking lot on Dickinson Street.

I then recognized Detective Mudry running toward the main entrance of the school. Detective Mudry called out to me and Detective Mudry and I entered the main entrance of the school either through the front door or the broken window.

How is it again that sworn trained Ct State Police officer cannot remember how they entered the school on one of the most tragic school shootings in Elementary School history?

5.  STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY INVESTIGATION REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 2/3/06)

CFS Report#: 1200704559 - 00019631

Sgt Roden

BADGE NO

0174

Action Taken: On 12/14/2012 at approximately 0930 hours, I was at the Woodbury Resident Trooper’s Office completing paperwork, when I heard Troop L broadcast that Newtown was responding to an active shooter incident.

I exited my vehicle and retrieved my shotgun from the trunk and observed TFC Blumenthal #690, do the same. We thenproceeded towards the main entrance of the building. As I approached, I observed a large hole in the glass window to the right of the main doors, which were closed. TFC Blumenthal and I entered the building through the hole in the glass window.

I observed Sgt. Cario #149 carrying a child, which appeared to be lifeless, out of the building. I observed two Newtown officers, and between 4-5 troopers in the lobby area.

Where is this lifeless child?

7.  STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY INVESTIGATION REPORT

CFS Report#: 1200704559 • 00041707

ACTION TAKEN:

Page 1 of 3

BADGE NO

0811

On 12/14/12, I was working as the Troop A desk trooper. I was at the front desk at Troop A when the “bat phone” rang atapproximately 0936 hours.

I answered the phone and was greeted by Disp. Betsy Brennan. Brennan informed me that there was a shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Upon arrival to the school, I entered the school parking lot from Dickinson Dr. and traveled to the right side of the parking lot.

I drove to the far end of the parking lot and positioned my vehicle on the front right corner of the school, near the front doors.

I exited my vehicle and ran across the front of my vehicle to the front doors of the school. Upon approaching the frontdoors, I observed that the windows to the right of the doors were broken and glass was on the ground outside of theschool.

I am not sure if I checked the doors to see if they were locked but I eventually entered the school through the broken glass windows. As I climbed through the windows, I observed a Newtown officer to my right.

WHY THROUGH THE GLASS WHEN YOU ALREADY HAVE POLICE OFFICERS INSIDE? Trained Connecticut State Police Officers again having to enter the front of the school through the broken shot-out glass window makes no sense. Why do that? Police are already inside.

8. STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY- Page 1 of 2

INVESTIGATION REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 2/3/06)

CFS Report #: 1200704559 – 00027950

ACTION TAKEN:

On 12/14/12 at approximately 0935 hours, I was in Southbury, CT when Troop A dispatch put out a broadcast that there was an active shooter situation in Newtown, CT. I traveled westbound on I-84 and exited at exit 10.

When I arrived, I went to the front left corner of the building and met with TFC Benecchi. Benecchi and I proceeded across the front of the building to the front door. As approaching the front door, I noticed a hole in the glass window on the right side of the front doors.

Benecchi and I met Lt. Hofbauer and MSgt Davis at the front door. We all entered the building through the broken window and entered into the lobby of the school.

WHY? This is a Lt and and a MSGT who should know better. These four Ct State Troopers would have disturbed the furniture inside the school, since the hole in the glass was not very large.

They should have moved the furniture for others to enter if that was really their intent or again just more lies. Not one of them removed the remaining glass in order to prevent them from being seriously cut by the broken glass.  Why is the furniture still in place after all of those Connecticut State Troopers entered via that broken glass window?

9. STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY

INVESTIGATION REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 2/3/06)

Page 1 of 3

CFS Report#: ·1:200704559·- ’00007591

CFSNO · ·:INCIDENT-DATE . ’TIME · INCIDENT DATE ·.1 TIME

·PRIMARY OFFICER BADGE”NO · INVESTIGATING OFFICER

SUPPLEMENTAL REPORT: INITIAL RESPONSE TO SCENE

ACTION TAKEN:

On 12/14/12, I learned of an ”active shooter” at Sandy Hook Elementary School, 12 Dickinson St. Newtown, CT from Lt.DeNecchia.

I then recognized Det. Zullo crouched behind a dumpster on the side of the school with his long gun in a down rangeposition. I called out to Det. Zullo to make entry into the school.

We entered the main entrance through either the front door or broken window.

So this guy can’t remember whether he entered through the front door or the broken window? If you had been there, is that something that you would have been unable to recall?

10. STATE OF CONNECTICUT, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY

INVESTIGATION REPORT (DPS-302-E) (REVISED 2/3/06)

CFS Report#: 1200704559 • 00011235

BADGE NO INVESTIGATING OFFICER

0336 BLUMENTHAL, WILLIAM

Page 1 of3

BADGE NO

0690

On 12/14/12, at approximately 0930 hours, I was on Route 8 Northbound near Exit #32, in Waterbury. Troop ADispatchers broadcasted the report

of an ”Active Shooter”, in Newtown.

Sgt Roden and I approached and joined an entry team. Utilizing the blown out window, we joined other officers and entered/secured the lobby area.

Why would so many CT State Troopers enter the broken glass window when other officers are already inside? Why go through the broken glass window exposing you to serious injury?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxAWy_bUuio

[vepr12x 89]

Glock 10mm? Give me a break. So this scrawny kid picked the most powerfull and lowest selling glock to bring?

 

No blood, brain tissue, skull fragments on/in his gordons fisherman hat? Gotta love the planted .223 shell casing caringly placed next to it lol.

 

Dont forget, his body was creamated and the ashes "hidden". Thats a convienent way to make sure the body is never exhumed and re examined/toxicology screened.

Edited September 26, 2014 by vepr12x

[YOT 3,743]

Dont forget, his body was creamated and the ashes "hidden". Thats a convienent way to make sure the body is never exhumed and re examined/toxicology screened.

 

That is exactly why it was done, and the building razed.... to hide evidence.

[Matthew Hopkins 1,065]

  fuck,  of course cooper's nose disappears, he's a  reptilian shapeshifter,  that was grown by the Illuminati at  a secret lab in the bohemian grove.

 

 

everybody knows that. but,  did you know that rocky the flying squirrel is bad at judging distances? 

 

 

 

      

Edited September 26, 2014 by Matthew Hopkins