308SAIGA 55 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 So I typed this in google and I got this:http://business.time.com/2012/12/18/americas-gun-economy-by-the-numbers/ http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/07/dean-weingarten/how-many-guns-are-there-in-america/ According to these articles there is only 1 weapon per person in this country(?) What??? Where do people get their facts? The first link even states that "5,459,240 Number of new firearms manufactured in the U.S. in 2011, 95% of which are sold domestically, according to the ATF" So if in 1 year they build 5.5 million and we have been building and importing these for the last 60 years, I ask again where do people get their facts? Doesn't Ted Nugent have over 10K weapons himself????? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 https://youtu.be/UmzsWxPLIOo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lone Eagle 839 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 They honestly don't know. Too many have changed hands, been built, and handed down. Just the AK kits alone could be in the tens of millions.....or more. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mancat 2,368 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 I doubt you could come to a conclusive number on anything before the 1968 GCA, when receivers became serialized, and the government began to have some idea of how many firearms were being "born" each year. Before that, nobody knows. Since firearms are a durable item, there are many millions manufactured before 1968 still in service today. At a bare minimum it may be one firearm per person. Likely double that, if not more. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) Not enough. I would assume 300,000,000 but, the murder rate in the USA is currently at 1950 levels, WTF? Edited November 18, 2015 by Sim_Player Quote Link to post Share on other sites
308SAIGA 55 Posted November 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 OK, maybe this other site was wrong, the question was on a specific weapon, and a person (old time poster) answered 250 million are here, even the old timers that usually know their dog pile did not argue with these figures. Hmmm not as many as I thought. This is just a SWAG, but I would say that 60% of Americans are gun owners, would anyone agree? This means that 210 million people owns @ least 1 weapon, so the other 40% own more then 1. OK maybe, this sounds solid Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Guns? What guns, there are none of those around here! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SHOTGUN MESIAH 855 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 You can add about another million buried out in the woods as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tundra1 391 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 One behind every blade of grass. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
THE NEW GUY 113 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 One behind every blade of grass. I would say more like 3 behind every blade of grass 1 for long range , 1 for when the try to over run your position and a pistol . Gee I wish I owned 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 ...not nearly enough, nor nearly enough ammo. I'd say 100K rounds per firearm would be good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 ...not nearly enough, nor nearly enough ammo. I'd say 100K rounds per firearm would be good. Cmon boss....I cant carry that much 223 weighs 28 lbs per 1000 thats 2800 lbs just for that caliber 45 auto is 46lbs per 1000 4600lbs so just under 4 tons just for two primary guns how much does 100k of 12ga weigh?? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 ...not to carry, silly. Not to run out either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 In a real SHTF situation Im buggin out, burning the ranch behind me 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted November 20, 2015 Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 I'm bugging IN! THIS is where I make my stand. I own this place, it is where I want my bones to be. If the fray comes here, there is no other place left to go! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted November 20, 2015 Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 ...not nearly enough, nor nearly enough ammo. I'd say 100K rounds per firearm would be good. Cmon boss....I cant carry that much 223 weighs 28 lbs per 1000 thats 2800 lbs just for that caliber 45 auto is 46lbs per 1000 4600lbs so just under 4 tons just for two primary guns how much does 100k of 12ga weigh?? I do have cause to think that a lot of people are thinking the same way. No ammo panics lately though as good a cause existed as caused the others. Fairly sure we are all in a better place in this regard than we were in 2008. We have done our due diligence already and adding more to the pile is a waste. Yeah have more than you think you need but not much more. Just replace what you shoot seems to be what most are doing now. As far as how many guns are out there it is unknown and that is EXACTLY what we wanted. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sim_Player 1,939 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) A wise person would weigh their options. Bug-in or bug-out based on the circumstances. There are many scenarios where I live. The first is having a nuke drop on one of the many Naval bases in the Puget Sound. Like him, or not, Putin seems to understand that Obama is done. Edited November 22, 2015 by Sim_Player Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 As of about a year ago the NICS has done at least 300 million checks, and you know there is 1+ with each check, and figure there are an equal number of guns existing before that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gunfun 3,931 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 As of about a year ago the NICS has done at least 300 million checks, and you know there is 1+ with each check, and figure there are an equal number of guns existing before that. Good point. We'd have to deduct used guns sold through gun dealers / online sales of used guns going through FFL though. So that would not necessarily = 300m new guns since NICS. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Long Shot 1,287 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Well the good news is nobody knows and that's just the way it should be. My guess is 400 million +/- 200 million. Factors include, 80% builds, Surveys based on a phone call from a .gov rep asking people about guns in their home.( yeah, that's gonna get straight answers) Pre NICs ownership. Multiple buys on one NICs. Confiscations and destruction. Theft and disposal after the crime. Smuggled into the country. Nearly 50 million new manufacture and import since 2008. Far to many variables for any sense of accuracy. Just as a God given right should be. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vulcan16 971 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 My wife doesn't even want to know how many guns are in our house.......but she's glad we have every single one. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Capt Nemo 882 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Back in the late 80's, there were 900 million AK's of all kinds produced, and 500 million AR's produced. We're probably looking at twice that amount or more today. My guess would be 600 million functional outside of .gov control. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RED333 1,025 Posted November 26, 2015 Report Share Posted November 26, 2015 I'm bugging IN! THIS is where I make my stand. I own this place, it is where I want my bones to be. If the fray comes here, there is no other place left to go! Me as well Bro, no place like home!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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