DLT 1,646 Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Had a guest over yesterday for a short while. Noticed that he had a Bernie bumper sticker on his car so I asked him about it. I was shocked to hear him say "yeah, anybody but Clinton". This was a 30 year old Mexican American male saying this to me. So I asked him what his plans are if she gets the nomination? "I'll vote for Trump, because he's less of a rat than her". This confirms the theory that Hitlery is in serious trouble, even with the people she and the media seem to think she's got in the bag. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 The Huffington Post has a great article today, that pins the mess in Syria directly on her shoulders, and even the Washington Post has been pointing out her foibles! I do expect her to be indicted before mid summer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 It'll be a sad day in America if an admitted Socialist makes it past the primaries. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Never underestimate the clinton crime and corruption organization. They have never come to justice in decades of crime 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOT 3,743 Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Had a guest over yesterday for a short while. Noticed that he had a Bernie bumper sticker on his car so I asked him about it. I was shocked to hear him say "yeah, anybody but Clinton". This was a 30 year old Mexican American male saying this to me. So I asked him what his plans are if she gets the nomination? "I'll vote for Trump, because he's less of a rat than her". This confirms the theory that Hitlery is in serious trouble, even with the people she and the media seem to think she's got in the bag. Hopefully you explained to him that it really doesn't work that way. I mean with the Electoral College and all. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Don't count her out. The stunts the RNC is pulling against Trump, I suspect he will bolt and go interdependent. My friends, I believe we are in the eye of a hurricane at the moment. All is calm and all is still. Just a mirage. If there was something you want gun related, get it now. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garnaz 215 Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Had a guest over yesterday for a short while. Noticed that he had a Bernie bumper sticker on his car so I asked him about it. I was shocked to hear him say "yeah, anybody but Clinton". This was a 30 year old Mexican American male saying this to me. So I asked him what his plans are if she gets the nomination? "I'll vote for Trump, because he's less of a rat than her". This confirms the theory that Hitlery is in serious trouble, even with the people she and the media seem to think she's got in the bag. Did you explain to him the negatives about voting socialist? With the past weekends passing of probably the only justice that understands the root of the Constitutions intentions we maybe a doomed country in a decade or two. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) Simply point to Venezuela. Another utopia. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/29/venezuela-is-on-the-brink-of-a-complete-collapse/ Edited February 15, 2016 by yakdung 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 a thousand words...... 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 It'll be a sad day in America if an admitted Socialist makes it past the primaries. There a difference from a progressive? Pretty sure everyone has that down pat since the Time cover pronouncing us all socialists. He just owned the term and frankly I respect his doing so though that is as far as it goes. Look for more as the fad takes hold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 It'll be a sad day in America if an admitted Socialist makes it past the primaries. There a difference from a progressive? Pretty sure everyone has that down pat since the Time cover pronouncing us all socialists. He just owned the term and frankly I respect his doing so though that is as far as it goes. Look for more as the fad takes hold. I guess you missed the word ADMITTED. That's the important part. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rhodes1968 1,638 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 So a (heh) honest Democrat I just dont see the flag with the admission, kind of like Tony Randall coming out isnt it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Its insane that our youth embrace a political system responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions of people. 80 million in china alone, I cant even comprehend 80 MILLION people put to death.................................. I cant help but think our country is just about done 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poolingmyignorance 2,191 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Its insane that our youth embrace a political system responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions of people. 80 million in china alone, I cant even comprehend 80 MILLION people put to death.................................. I cant help but think our country is just about done To be fair, our capitalist views killed 100 Million Native Americans.. though that was hundreds of years ago, and socialist are STILL killing millions, either by guns or starvation, or cultural suicide. The lesser of two evils is clear. It really is as Churchill said " a philosophy of ignorance" in that they are willing to trade immediate comfort for the lives of potentially billions in the future, or even a few million within their own life times. When you take 5x5 and look hard it's easy to see evil in it's truest form disguised as compassion. Sufficient apathy is equal to the greatest malice........ 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blessthefall 27 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Hillary polls something like 70% behind Sanders. Last I saw it was something like 84-14 among the 18-35 crowd. Millenials are old enough to remember when Hillary opposed same sex marriage, when she supported the Iraq war, when she was all for locking up anyone caught with a gram of marijuana. They may not share your political views, but they hate Hillary as much as any Republican would. They know a fake when they see her. Also, its silly to try and implicate Socialism as being responsible for millions of deaths due to people like Stalin and Mao. Capitalism could likewise be blamed for hundreds of millions of deaths as well, ranging from the extermination of indigenous peoples worldwide to continued exploitation and suffering of the world's poor for use as slave labor in factories. Such comparisons equating Bernie to Mao are both overly simplistic and immature. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Its insane that our youth embrace a political system responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions of people. 80 million in china alone, I cant even comprehend 80 MILLION people put to death.................................. I cant help but think our country is just about done To be fair, our capitalist views killed 100 Million Native Americans.. though that was hundreds of years ago, and socialist are STILL killing millions, either by guns or starvation, or cultural suicide. The lesser of two evils is clear. It really is as Churchill said " a philosophy of ignorance" in that they are willing to trade immediate comfort for the lives of potentially billions in the future, or even a few million within their own life times. When you take 5x5 and look hard it's easy to see evil in it's truest form disguised as compassion. Sufficient apathy is equal to the greatest malice........ Disease, not capitalism killed 90 percent of that number. The ones we killed fighting are a different story . Some were murdered as well But the number you quote is mostly from the spanish in south america. NOT the USA and NOT capitalism 100 million were not executed There is NO honest comparison 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Hillary polls something like 70% behind Sanders. Last I saw it was something like 84-14 among the 18-35 crowd. Millenials are old enough to remember when Hillary opposed same sex marriage, when she supported the Iraq war, when she was all for locking up anyone caught with a gram of marijuana. They may not share your political views, but they hate Hillary as much as any Republican would. They know a fake when they see her. Also, its silly to try and implicate Socialism as being responsible for millions of deaths due to people like Stalin and Mao. Capitalism could likewise be blamed for hundreds of millions of deaths as well, ranging from the extermination of indigenous peoples worldwide to continued exploitation and suffering of the world's poor for use as slave labor in factories. Such comparisons equating Bernie to Mao are both overly simplistic and immature. You are out of your mind 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-2091670/Hitler-Stalin-The-murderous-regimes-world.html 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ronin38 2,117 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 ^ Can't really say I "Like" it, but thanks for the link. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blessthefall 27 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Hillary polls something like 70% behind Sanders. Last I saw it was something like 84-14 among the 18-35 crowd. Millenials are old enough to remember when Hillary opposed same sex marriage, when she supported the Iraq war, when she was all for locking up anyone caught with a gram of marijuana. They may not share your political views, but they hate Hillary as much as any Republican would. They know a fake when they see her. Also, its silly to try and implicate Socialism as being responsible for millions of deaths due to people like Stalin and Mao. Capitalism could likewise be blamed for hundreds of millions of deaths as well, ranging from the extermination of indigenous peoples worldwide to continued exploitation and suffering of the world's poor for use as slave labor in factories. Such comparisons equating Bernie to Mao are both overly simplistic and immature. You are out of your mind I'm sorry, which part of it is incorrect? When an American entrepreneur and his corporation make a product, it's made right here in the good ol' USA, right? I forgot about that factory out in Cleveland where good ol' workin' man gets paid $20/hr to assemble the new iPhone while his wife stays at home making tuna casserole for dinner. Or do the rare Earth minerals come from child laborers in Congo with no shoes or hard hats? Do the assembly workers in China not get paid less than $1/day and live in dormitories? Did Foxconn not install anti-suicide nets because the people would rather kill themselves than work another 16 hour shift breathing in soldering gases? Go ahead, tell me no one loses in capitalism. Tell me no one gets hurt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JonWienke 131 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Last I checked, China was a Communist country, and the companies that produce iPhones are de facto government entities, even if they are nominally privately owned. China's government has been subsidizing their "private" companies for decades with cheap forced labor as well as cash as a form of economic warfare, allowing them to compete unfairly on the world market against companies that actually pay their workers. And Congo is a hellhole run by warlords and their armed gangs, who use slave labor to dig diamonds and other minerals, which is just slightly different than how things are done in most developed capitalist countries. None of your examples are capitalist societies, the slavery and exploitation you're decrying is being done by socialist/totalitarian regimes. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Please feel free to move to a different country...troll Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blessthefall 27 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Last I checked, China was a Communist country, and the companies that produce iPhones are de facto government entities, even if they are nominally privately owned. China's government has been subsidizing their "private" companies for decades with cheap forced labor as well as cash as a form of economic warfare, allowing them to compete unfairly on the world market against companies that actually pay their workers. And Congo is a hellhole run by warlords and their armed gangs, who use slave labor to dig diamonds and other minerals, which is just slightly different than how things are done in most developed capitalist countries. None of your examples are capitalist societies, the slavery and exploitation you're decrying is being done by socialist/totalitarian regimes. But it's capitalist companies who do business with these devils. They could buy from anyone else. They could make it here. But they don't. Why? The end result of capitalism is greed. Anything to make an extra buck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 bernie sticker on his car 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Long Shot 1,287 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Hillary polls something like 70% behind Sanders. Last I saw it was something like 84-14 among the 18-35 crowd. Millenials are old enough to remember when Hillary opposed same sex marriage, when she supported the Iraq war, when she was all for locking up anyone caught with a gram of marijuana. They may not share your political views, but they hate Hillary as much as any Republican would. They know a fake when they see her. Also, its silly to try and implicate Socialism as being responsible for millions of deaths due to people like Stalin and Mao. Capitalism could likewise be blamed for hundreds of millions of deaths as well, ranging from the extermination of indigenous peoples worldwide to continued exploitation and suffering of the world's poor for use as slave labor in factories. Such comparisons equating Bernie to Mao are both overly simplistic and immature. You are out of your mind I'm sorry, which part of it is incorrect? When an American entrepreneur and his corporation make a product, it's made right here in the good ol' USA, right? I forgot about that factory out in Cleveland where good ol' workin' man gets paid $20/hr to assemble the new iPhone while his wife stays at home making tuna casserole for dinner. Or do the rare Earth minerals come from child laborers in Congo with no shoes or hard hats? Do the assembly workers in China not get paid less than $1/day and live in dormitories? Did Foxconn not install anti-suicide nets because the people would rather kill themselves than work another 16 hour shift breathing in soldering gases? Go ahead, tell me no one loses in capitalism. Tell me no one gets hurt. You poor ignorant DOLT, capitalism is NOT a governmental political system. It's what occurs naturally when liberty exsists and Govenrment is restrained as in with the original intent of the Constitution of the United States. Go read Milton Friedman. No other form of economic activity has raised more people out of poverty, improved health standards or standard of living in general in the history of man. You rail against corporations while typing on a keyboard that came from one, surrounded by homes, cars, electric power, hospitals and water you can drink right from the tap? You prefer what? Socialism? Communism? Sharia? Got some bad news for you. Sucking Bernie Sanders cock will be the only way for you to get some of that FREE STUFF he promised you. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blessthefall 27 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 You rail against corporations while typing on a keyboard that came from one, surrounded by homes, cars, electric power, hospitals and water you can drink right from the tap? Funny, because all of those things you mention are in one way or another both regulated AND subsidized by the government. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
liberty -r- death 1,445 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Hillary polls something like 70% behind Sanders. Last I saw it was something like 84-14 among the 18-35 crowd. Millenials are old enough to remember when Hillary opposed same sex marriage, when she supported the Iraq war, when she was all for locking up anyone caught with a gram of marijuana. They may not share your political views, but they hate Hillary as much as any Republican would. They know a fake when they see her. Also, its silly to try and implicate Socialism as being responsible for millions of deaths due to people like Stalin and Mao. Capitalism could likewise be blamed for hundreds of millions of deaths as well, ranging from the extermination of indigenous peoples worldwide to continued exploitation and suffering of the world's poor for use as slave labor in factories. Such comparisons equating Bernie to Mao are both overly simplistic and immature. You are out of your mind I'm sorry, which part of it is incorrect? When an American entrepreneur and his corporation make a product, it's made right here in the good ol' USA, right? I forgot about that factory out in Cleveland where good ol' workin' man gets paid $20/hr to assemble the new iPhone while his wife stays at home making tuna casserole for dinner. Or do the rare Earth minerals come from child laborers in Congo with no shoes or hard hats? Do the assembly workers in China not get paid less than $1/day and live in dormitories? Did Foxconn not install anti-suicide nets because the people would rather kill themselves than work another 16 hour shift breathing in soldering gases? Go ahead, tell me no one loses in capitalism. Tell me no one gets hurt. Capitalism is not the issue on China or the Congo. Shitty government that do nothing to protect it's citizens are to blame. Do I like the fact that China or any other communist/socialist country allows this kind of business to be conducted, no. It's not capitalism that allows these conditions to exist. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
james lambert 3,059 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 bernie sticker next to pink triangle 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Long Shot 1,287 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 You rail against corporations while typing on a keyboard that came from one, surrounded by homes, cars, electric power, hospitals and water you can drink right from the tap? Funny, because all of those things you mention are in one way or another both regulated AND subsidized by the government. Funny you didn't answer the question, You prefer what form of economic system? What form of Government? All those thing happened in spite of Government regulation not because of it. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patriot 7,197 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Time for the IGNORE button. Poor, sick little guy all filled with hate for a country that GAVE him Freedom, and disdain for those who fought, bled, and died for it. Don't bother responding to me, troll boy. I won't answer. You're on IGNORE. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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