icarus 3 Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 (edited) 30 minutes after getting home with my new Saiga 223 I had it taking 30rd bakalite mags!! All I did was grind down the lip right below the mag catch & the lugs (I guess that is what you'd call them) that contact the front of the mag when it is inserted. Sorry I don't have any pics, no camera. I'll borrow my girlfriend's digi cam and post some pics as soon as I get a chance. Edited December 28, 2005 by icarus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted December 31, 2005 Report Share Posted December 31, 2005 That sounds like the same mod done by inparidel on his. Good job. I guess you have a factory mag for sale now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
icarus 3 Posted January 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 How do you post pics without an URL?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KySoldier 2 Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 When you are adding a reply, click the BROWSE button below, locate the picture, and click the ADD THIS ATTACHMENT button. You will likely have to shrink the photo way down before you can post it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
icarus 3 Posted January 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 (edited) Thanks KY. I wasn't resizing them and so they were to large to add. The factory mag still works so I think I'll keep it. It is a little lose, but not much. Edited January 2, 2006 by icarus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dinzag 31 Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Good work! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LAD 0 Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 (edited) Edited January 2, 2006 by LAD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Welcome comrade! Good pictures but I could not convert the text. Guess I'm better at converting Saigas. http://babelfish.altavista.com/ ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolverine 10,360 Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 Welcome LAD. Thanks for your pictures and attempt to share. Unfortunately, we have a language barrier issue. Too bad. We are very interested in what you are trying to share. Good pictures though. Thanks again. Wolverine . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inparidel 4 Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 (edited) 30 minutes after getting home with my new Saiga 223 I had it taking 30rd bakalite mags!! All I did was grind down the lip right below the mag catch & the lugs (I guess that is what you'd call them) that contact the front of the mag when it is inserted. Sorry I don't have any pics, no camera. I'll borrow my girlfriend's digi cam and post some pics as soon as I get a chance. Congrats!! That's the mod I have been talking about that I did. You simply returned the rifle to to mil specs. The only othewr thing yo may have to do touse all known 5.45 or .23 ak mags is ream a bit of a feed ramp at the bottom of he chamber opening. Great going dude! A bullet guide is still needed usually. You didn't mention anything about that. Edited January 2, 2006 by inparidel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jsf 0 Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 do they feed without a feed ramp on the mag? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
icarus 3 Posted January 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 (edited) Actually I'm adding a bullet guide right now. When the mag is in the rifle the rounds in the left stack feed w/out a bullet guide, while the rounds in the right stack need a bullet guide. Inparidel, did you add a bullet guide or did you just grind a feed ramp in the chamber? You wouldn't happen to have a pic would you? Edited January 10, 2006 by icarus Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LAD 0 Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 (edited) Edited January 5, 2006 by LAD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
inparidel 4 Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 (edited) do they feed without a feed ramp on the mag? Yes. That's the point. The "feed ramp" on the mag is the factory solution to legal importation. When you add the mil spec bullet guide and restore the lug length to mil spec, and modify the 5.45 mag followers to accommodate the narrower .223/5.56 mm NATO rounds, all mag "feed ramps" are just an import friendly nightmare that is over. BTW, if you use the Bulgy black polyamide 5.45 mags that I do, you do not need to do those two feed grooves in the bullet guide. That's the system that the Romanians use in their .223.5.56 mm (SAR 3). If you make those grooves, you will need to grind the feed lips of the mag so the rounds come straight out of the left and right sides of the mag, as opposed to the rounds being sent to the middle of the bullet guide as the black poly amides do in the Russian and Bulgy .223.5,56 mm rifles (and the 5.45 rifles). Romania and Russia/Bulgaria heve two different ways of dealing with feeding .223/5.56 mm. Edited January 10, 2006 by inparidel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
icarus 3 Posted January 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Question only theoretical, as in Russia are lawful only the mag. up to 10rounds, therefore put the (terminator.?) Yes. Only supposed to have 10 round mags for Saigas. Unless the Saiga was converted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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LAD 0 Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 (edited) Edited January 22, 2006 by LAD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rangerruck 0 Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 what did you use for girnding? in the first pic, i see tha mag release, did you grind something here as well? how deep do you grind? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
icarus 3 Posted February 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 what did you use for girnding? in the first pic, i see tha mag release, did you grind something here as well? how deep do you grind? I used a fiber cuttoff wheel on a dremil (the poor mans mill). That piece that the arrows point at is what I ground down. If you take an unmodded mag and try to fit it in your rifle you'll see where the spine on the mag hits against that part. Just grind enough for the mag to fit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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IndyArms 10,186 Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Yeah... BABELFISH isnt the best when it comes to doing RUSSIAN! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Yeah... BABELFISH isnt the best when it comes to doing RUSSIAN! +1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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