jasecloud4

So, after many moons, a few of these have surfaced. I'm curious if this has actually gone into mass production yet...

I've been really interested in this since the day I saw it, but have yet to see one. Right after I discovered their website, I set up a thread with poll and everything. It ran for months on end with input from all sides of the fence. Then out of nowhere a user claiming to be the owner of the company asked me if I had an unmodified Saiga-12. If I did he would be willing to send me a kit for review as a thank-you for setting up hype. I gave the hell yes. No response ever came back. Now, months upon months later, still no word and the product has yet to hit market. I would love to see it,

The S12 is stamped. Pretty good material too...

Wow...this topic will truly never go away. I had started this exact topic last year that ran for months...and now the same thing is showing up. I would love to get my hands on one of these. In fact I even got a PM from the owner of the company mentioning getting one. Nothing ever materialized. I hate to say this, (I truly do) but I have a strong suspicion that this is vaporware. ~Jase

I'm sorry...what are you talking about exactly?

Ummmm...honestly? 1968. Stores just check age...they don't actually record your ID lol. Unless of course you live in one of those commie states that they follow every piece of ammo you buy. The minimum ages were always supposed to be verified by photo ID when you purchased ammo...sometimes though places don't follow the rules.

Since i made this post, i found this pic on Izhmash's website http://www.izhmash.ru/pix/products/weapons/ks1.png Wow!!! Someone needs to make that gas block for the public. I would love to have a copy of that with the site frame on it and the picatinny rail on the bottom. yeah! and if im not mistaken, its even a completely different receiver all together than the ones that are sent over here...notice the sidefolding stock too... Not judging, but...are we sure that's an S-12...wasn't aware that the Russians used Magwells like that...pretty sweet looking weapon th

What about rust...what kind of finish would I have to re-coat the barrel with? It's a good idea though...might actually have to try something like that lol... He's saying coil it around the barrel. Water wouldn't touch the barrel, only copper tubing would. Overgas the gun & use the gas system to power the pump mounted to the top of the gun & attached to the top of the pushrod? If there was a 1 way valve on the cool side of the coils, pressure from the water heating up would aid the pump so the pump wouldn't need to be all that powerful to circulate the water. Since we'

What about rust...what kind of finish would I have to re-coat the barrel with? It's a good idea though...might actually have to try something like that lol... He's saying coil it around the barrel. Water wouldn't touch the barrel, only copper tubing would. Overgas the gun & use the gas system to power the pump mounted to the top of the gun & attached to the top of the pushrod? If there was a 1 way valve on the cool side of the coils, pressure from the water heating up would aid the pump so the pump wouldn't need to be all that powerful to circulate the water. Since we'

212F is still pretty hot...what about using anti-freeze coolant mix, to prevent rust?

I've considered this thoroughly and now I just have to say: why the F*** not? Send me a message with that guys info for ceramic coating. Now I've got to go to Lowes/Home Depot/Local-Redneck-Hardware-store-down-the-street for pipes and fittings. I thing I might be able to get my old watercooling pump from my desktop computer kit working...lol...it'll be a few days till it's ready. Will post pics and vid when I'm done...lol...

What about rust...what kind of finish would I have to re-coat the barrel with? It's a good idea though...might actually have to try something like that lol...

Wow...this topic took off fast. As to the water cooled .50, being in Kentucky (note: but not a Kentuckian...lol) we have the Knob Creek Machine Gun shoot twice a year and theres a guy who shows up with his... As to the S-12 and belt feeding you beat me to the punch on that. Why hasn't anyone taken an RPD style action and tried to run it on a S-12? Yeah I know a lot of work, time, and money would have to go into it...but I would buy one...and I'm sure others would as well. Crew served twelve guage...that would definitely scare the neighbors off... ~Jasecloud4

Agreed. However, a few of the more impatient folk out there will probably find a way to get a hold of the European one.

So I was chilling out at the range the other day, and realized that my S-12 was getting major hot. Yes I know that with the vertical grip on it I don't have to worry about burning my hands, but the barrel was getting kinda toasty. So I did some digging and found very little on water cooled weapons. There's a couple out there but nothing too detailed. Anybody know if it is possible to feasibly watercool a Saiga-12? Just curious. Thanks. ~Jasecloud4

Let's not forget the LRBHO that they are going to be releasing as a DIY kit in May... http://www.rusmilitary.com/html/firearms_saiga12.htm

Now the question is how long till it's done?

Jeebus really? Jeez...it may work but...was that one of Mikhail's first? LOLOLOL...

Thax for the advice all...

Just a curious question...has anyone tried these on an s12 either converted or unconverted...will it fit and if so is there any modification needed? Thanks

Use an EOTech 516-A65 on mine...it's a little bigger than some of the other optics but it's what I'm used to lol...

Meh...MD is by far the best, but how many times is this question going to be asked? I mean really, sometimes I wonder if members just want to start a flame war for the hell of it...lol... Jasecloud4

Wow, all this conversation and no reply from the OP...I think the F**kstick terrorist lines scared him off, lolol... No but seriously: yes we don't want a psycho getting a hold of something as dangerous as a 20 round S12 drum, however, plenty of crazies here in the U.S. already have access to them. At least if their going to kill someone (and no offense intended here) I would rather it happen in Great Britain than in my town. Only silver lining if it happens in here, I'll be using mine right back. Both sides have valid points; I think this is just a matter of personal discretion and a little b

AK...in Canada?...is your buyer the President of the country? No offense intended, but that is one of the most heavily restricted items to attempt to import into a country that is not only heavily socialist but also a former British colony...I'll help you look, but I don't think either of us will have much luck. Sorry...

Doesn't that just make 5 parts? I thought that 6 US parts is necessary when you have a removable muzzle brake??? The choke on this Saiga pictured is original Russian, no? Could ship with American mags, plus we can't see if it is using an US gas piston; could be perfectly compliant.