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You could get an old Mosin and use one of the 7.62x25mm adapters to shoot the cheap $80/M ammo in it. Should be good out to 150-200 yards...

Crapping on the NRA is popular and counter-productive. They have done more to protect 2nd Amendment rights then every other Pro-2nd group combined. If they are on the wrong side of this issue it is time to let them know, not sit around poisoning their well. This whole Anti-NRA spin is a brain-child of the Liberal Anti's and was seeded in the some of Uber-militant grass-roots groups with almost no political clout, meaning no ability get anything done. I am a NRA Lifer and will be calling Monday for their position for support of the Veirs amendment! I see this a lot more productive then sta

Ha! Most TT33 Tokarevs look like they were machined with a cold chisel and a cinder block! The grip is also too short for most large American sized hands! Little more then a crude rip-off of John Browning's design and a poor implementation at that! By contrast the CZ Vz-52 is a well machined and elegant pistol evocative of the Art-Deco influence of the period. Its roller-locking system is innovative in a pistol and widely regarded as being stronger then that of the TT33 by many sources, including the US Army in one of their training manuals! Whereas the TT33 crowd must rely on the s

I think that J&G had it, it is almost the same as round as the 9mm Bergmann-Bayard and 9mm Bayard Long, all 9x23mm and of roughly similar pressure. Its price fluctuates and right now the only people I know of for sure that have it are Long Mountain Outfitters, LLC, and their price is 15 cent a round when bought in lots of 1000 (M) at $204.50, plus shipping. It is old Spanish 1961-66 127gr FMJ and not as good a deal, right now as the 7.62x25mm Tok. However, I have seen it fairly recently as low as $80/M! I used to shoot this stuff by the case in an old .38 Super Colt Commander I had!

That is true, it may well be too short for the 7.62x25...

We are certainly getting there! But I will point out that the Chinese at Norinco did not design the TT33, just slavishly copied it. Also, the Chinese have also been known to put diethylene glycol antifreeze in toothpaste, so I would be a little uncomfortable in citing them as a paragon in the area of consumer safety... For what it is worth, the CZ52 did not like the .38 Super for long term use. It was unsafe. However I would love to find one of these barrels as 9mm Largo is one of the last cheap pistol ammos, next to 7.62x25mm Tok! I have read that the Norinco was available as a

LoL! Not really, but I will admit to enjoying a long and successful career as a bachelor. What is wrong with that? Frankly if more guys were not in such a hurry to marry the first gal that could stand their company for more then 15 minutes at a time we would have a lot less divorce and misery today. Then a lot of these new and awkward couples will get in a super rush to have a baby before they even get to know one another. We are not cavemen and no longer need to produce offspring as soon as we are fertile in order to propagate the species! I have found that many women have a hard tim

This is true! However keep in mind that this conversion only works with the 9mm and .38 Super model 1911s and that you can load no more then 5-6 rounds per mag from what I have read. You would be better off with a Tok or a CZ!

No I made my own point, you just now agree that there was no deliberate intent to make a pistol that was designed to take a deliberately hotter version of the same round. There is a 9x23mm barrel for the CZ52, I had no idea that there was one made for the TT33. I will wager that like the CZ52 barrel it is intended for the dimensionally similar, 9x23mm, yet lower pressure 9mm Largo! Not the .38 Super. Besides, how could and aftermarket barre,l made years later, in any way effect the strength of any pistol? This whole "CZ52's are not as strong as Toks" is just your opinion. You are wel

Ditto! Another confused MTV liberal kid that suddenly likes firearms. This guy made as much sense as a Black Klansman! When someone is this self destructive and conflicted you have to expect a problematic instigating personality.

I would love to have a few of the 60's as well. When it comes to 100 rounds, I will stick to my Betamags!

I voted CZ52, but would take a Yugo in the TT33!

Well you have to wonder why the 1950's era Czechoslovakia Communists have been so busy marketing their surplus pistol for modern American use.. but the roller locking system of the CZ52 is a good bit stronger then the comparatively crude TT33. The only study that contradicts this is Clark Magnuson's and that is the single point that TT33 owners have used to promote their pistols every since. One of the flaws in the TT33 is most you will see in this country have been re-engineered to have a thumb mounted safety. I have seen one cracked there. Do not get me wrong, I like the TT33 and w

While there will be exceptions, in law enforcement training we found that at least 140 LBs of body weight was required for the average height person to effectively operate a 12 gauge shotgun with combat type loads in a an effective manner for defensive use. (Please read that statement several times before disputeing it... ) Please keep in mind that this involves more then just standing there and being able to fire it. We found this to be true irrespective of physical strength and was directly related to the physics of the problem. As has been pointed out above, reduced loads are ve

Thanks and true, but you must admit I lived that life a long time before falling into the trap!

Once upon a time, a Prince asked a beautiful Princess "Will you marry me?" The Princess said "NO." And the Prince lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and dated skinny big boobed broads and hunted and raced cars and went to naked bars and dated women half his age and drank whiskey, beer and Captain Morgan and never heard bitching and never paid child support or alimony and kept his house and guns and never got cheated on while he was at work and all his friends and family thought he was cool as hell and he had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up .....

Cowardice has little chance of changing anything. Don't Tread on Me!

The Presidential citation that he received from George W. Bush read as follows:

This kind of stuff is in the everyday job description of most dogs! They are noble animals that we would do well to emulate!

Interesting!

My Fiancée can shoot my Desert Eagle, most people can discharge them. The problem with recoil is that more people can not manage it to be able to hit their targets. Remember, a hit with a .22 is way more important then any miss with a .44!

Well I think that the most obvious reason is that few people have use for a trigger guard through the middle of their pistol grips...

Twice the torque, twice the HP. The original motor was an inline 6. Which was a non-compatable clone of an early Chevy 6. Sounds like justice to me!

I have shot a good bit of GA Arms Ammo, as you might imagine... It has always been a good reload and we used to carry it at the range.

I saw one of the fist that came into the country at the Farmers Market Gun Show here in Atlanta. I really liked the design and it was around $200. It was the first one I had seen outside the gun magazines. But the 5 round mags were a deal breaker and the guy did not have any extra. I was also afraid that the company or the importer would go under and I would never be able to get any more, or it would be many years before I could. I was right.