Ammo2Fm 1 Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 I was thinking about trying to run 45 long colts in my Saiga .410 has anybody tried this? If it will go boom the right way I was thinking that maybe just maybe with some trial and error this might be a good conversion. The length is the only issue that I see but who knows what else may come about. If it works though the .410 might be the hot item to have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Dude the first rule is never fire anything out of the gun that it isn't designed for. I sure wouldn't want to be that adventuresome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ammo2Fm 1 Posted November 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 Dude the first rule is never fire anything out of the gun that it isn't designed for. I sure wouldn't want to be that adventuresome. [/quo Hold my beer you pussy!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 (edited) [/quo "Hold my beer you pussy!!" /quo] Edited November 18, 2006 by tritium Quote Link to post Share on other sites
glock_forty5 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 For god's sake make sure some one is video taping when you try this! (make sure whats left of you posts the vid) G45 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
osprey21 5 Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 (edited) Dude the first rule is never fire anything out of the gun that it isn't designed for. I sure wouldn't want to be that adventuresome. Hold my beer you pussy!! I'd be happy to hold your beer, A-hole. Edited November 17, 2006 by osprey21 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiny 2 Posted November 17, 2006 Report Share Posted November 17, 2006 I know it's comparing apples to oranges but my old T/C had a barrel that was made to shoot .410 & .45 Long Colt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
piggsy 0 Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 There's only one way to find out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 "45 Colt cartridges are still occasionally fired in .410 bore shotguns by U.S. farmers needing to kill a mule or horse humanely." This statement comes from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_Colt Personally, I have pistols, rifles and shotguns and don't mix their diet as a general rule. HK 53 pistol and FN PS90 are exceptions for me. Good luck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ammo2Fm 1 Posted November 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 "45 Colt cartridges are still occasionally fired in .410 bore shotguns by U.S. farmers needing to kill a mule or horse humanely." This statement comes from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_Colt Personally, I have pistols, rifles and shotguns and don't mix their diet as a general rule. HK 53 pistol and FN PS90 are exceptions for me. Good luck. It was just a question that way out of hand I have used long colts in a 410 before it is not insane as to what some may believe. I can chamber up a 45 long colt with now problem in to the 410 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaGroaner 2 Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 For god's sake make sure some one is video taping when you try this! (make sure whats left of you posts the vid) G45 Awesome!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
300RUM 0 Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 Darwin Award nominee? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bamaboy 0 Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 My American derringer (Alaskan survival) can shoot 410 or .45LC out of the same barrel, but then the other barrel shoots a 45/70 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
buckmeister 11 Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 Darwin Award nominee? The TC and others were designed to shoot the .45 LC, FIRST, hence the action is stronger. They will also shoot 410 shotshells. "But Doctor, it fit into the hole!?" I heard this one long ago (Its in the Bible too): Just 'cause you can, don't mean ya should. buckmeister Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steph 5 Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 Hmmmm..... thoughts.... 1) Ain't this the Saiga 12 forum? 2) Why would you want to? Aren't you sending a slug with a poor gas seal down an unrifled barrel? What for? What's that slug heading to? Isn't there something better you can use? 3) If it's just for the sense of adventure, more power to ya, that's how mankind got as far as it has, but of course, lot's of people have died, been blinded, crippled, scarred; after saying, "Hey, watch THIS!" 4) I'd start by looking at any of the many reloading handbooks or online, find out what the peak pressure of both rounds is, that may be a clue as to whether its advisable. 5) As an aside, I used to take .444 Marlin brass, cut it down so it was the same length as my S&W model 25 .45 Colt cylinder, and make shotshells that worked pretty well. OUCH. Ain't I cool?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vermiform 26 Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 (edited) I would love to see a 45LC conversion for the Saiga 410. My American derringer (Alaskan survival) can shoot 410 or .45LC out of the same barrel, but then the other barrel shoots a 45/70 OMFG, Have gotten up the nerve to fire that puppy yet? I'd be too skeered to fire the 45/70 barrel.....ouch! Edited November 18, 2006 by Vermiform Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bamaboy 0 Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 I would love to see a 45LC conversion for the Saiga 410. My American derringer (Alaskan survival) can shoot 410 or .45LC out of the same barrel, but then the other barrel shoots a 45/70 OMFG, Have gotten up the nerve to fire that puppy yet? I'd be too skeered to fire the 45/70 barrel.....ouch! I've got the "over sized grips" they do help some, best description is like holding out your hand to let someone smack it with a hammer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoop762 0 Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 its pretty simple guys......slap that biotch in a vise, tie a string to the trigger and duck down behind a truck parked 50 feet away and have at it. i do that with guns that havnt been fired in years. Last one was a mauser that hadnt been fired in over 50 years. Only one way to find out.... if it works, great! but if not, you'll probably be buying a new saiga Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ronswin 26 Posted November 18, 2006 Report Share Posted November 18, 2006 It will probably chamber and fire..what it will do when the hard lead bullet hits the choked part of the barrel could prove painful. If the experiment is caught on video be sure to open with the classic line" Hey, watch this..."!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beerslurpy 1 Posted November 20, 2006 Report Share Posted November 20, 2006 Judging by length, wouldnt the 410 saiga fit 454 casull and 460 S&W magnum as well? I doubt it would take those chamber pressures with the factory barrel, but I'm sure it could be made to work if someone made an aftermarket barrel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaddis 1,689 Posted November 21, 2006 Report Share Posted November 21, 2006 its pretty simple guys......slap that biotch in a vise, tie a string to the trigger and duck down behind a truck parked 50 feet away and have at it. i do that with guns that havnt been fired in years. Last one was a mauser that hadnt been fired in over 50 years. Only one way to find out.... if it works, great! but if not, you'll probably be buying a new saiga Or just take Chuckie Schumer out when you test fire it. Shit, he seems to like it (that is, when he's not busy f**king us over denying them to us, that is ). If you're 100% sure it will blow up, I'd reccomend taking Nancy Pelosi (she's a tough old bird who can take it). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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