banshee 69 Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 All this discussion about stoppers got me to thinking. IS there a wrench to remove the stopper? Surly the Russians made a proper wrench to fit and not damage the slots. I have designed one, just haven't taken the time to machine it yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Never heard of one. Usually requires a big screwdriver at most. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
banshee 69 Posted April 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 (edited) Never heard of one. Usually requires a big screwdriver at most. yea a big screwdriver will work, but I belive it can be improved on. here is quick drawing of what I am thinking about. Edited April 8, 2007 by Banshee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
G O B 3,516 Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 If you keep the threads clean and use a LITTLE anti-seeze, the blind plug can almost be removed without tools. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bugeye 2 Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 I thought these tools were suppose to be used for removing the plug...? Thats what I use them for. Although I do use a small wooden stick to push down the "button". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kresk 10,063 Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 I thought these tools were suppose to be used for removing the plug...? Thats what I use them for. Although I do use a small wooden stick to push down the "button". Your picture shows the cleaning case, cap, punch, and combination tool. The cap can be used as a bore guide for cleaning. The case and combo tool can be configured with the cleaning rod to make a handle for the rod. The punch use is obvious. The case and combo tool can also be configured to form a screwdriver and front sight adjusting tool. I can scan some pix that show this if you need. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bugeye 2 Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Thanks for the offer Tritium, but right now I dont have any problems getting my plug out, of course Ivan is still young. He may get more stubbern as time goes on........ I have an AK link that showe how it all goes together http://www.gunsnet.net/Linx310/toolkit.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whatmanual 44 Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 (edited) Interesting topic ~S Edited April 8, 2007 by whatmanual Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccumber1916 1 Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 All this discussion about stoppers got me to thinking. IS there a wrench to remove the stopper? Surly the Russians made a proper wrench to fit and not damage the slots. I have designed one, just haven't taken the time to machine it yet. i found that using the choke wrench across the 2 slots extended a tad past the seccond slot will also depress the button and just turn now... isn't the punch designed to push through the front sight for adjusting ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StealthyBlagga 4 Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 i found that using the choke wrench across the 2 slots extended a tad past the seccond slot will also depress the button and just turn. +1... I assumed the choke wrench was designed to be used this way. Works perfectly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
banshee 69 Posted April 8, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 (edited) i found that using the choke wrench across the 2 slots extended a tad past the seccond slot will also depress the button and just turn. +1... I assumed the choke wrench was designed to be used this way. Works perfectly. is this a Saiga choke wrench? Edited April 8, 2007 by Banshee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccumber1916 1 Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 (edited) i found that using the choke wrench across the 2 slots extended a tad past the seccond slot will also depress the button and just turn. +1... I assumed the choke wrench was designed to be used this way. Works perfectly. is this a Saiga choke wrench? it came with mine.. but if you got a non-threaded barrel then you'd not get the wrench banshee... that is one kick ass quote Edited April 8, 2007 by mccumber1916 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
banshee 69 Posted April 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 (edited) I had a little free time this week and I made this wrench to remove the stopper from my Saiga, it works like a charm on my Tromix 8 inch barrel gun. I made it from some scrap aluminum, heat treaded 17-4 and a piece of .250 drill rod. click on the thumbnails for full size pictures Edited April 14, 2007 by Banshee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GTwannabe 1 Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 I use the file on my Leatherman multi-tool. Fits the slot perfectly and provides the necessary torque. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccumber1916 1 Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 I had a little free time this week and I made this wrench to remove the stopper from my Saiga, it works like a charm on my Tromix 8 inch barrel gun. I made it from some scrap aluminum, heat treaded 17-4 and a piece of .250 drill rod. click on the thumbnails for full size pictures can i get one of those Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoser4963 1 Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Pretty!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra 76 two 2,677 Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Nice fab job dude. Any time I need a "wrench" to remove one of someone else's to help them clean it, I use a tool that only costs 25 cents and is probably already in your pocket. Yep a quarter is all it takes, if you have a 50 cent piece it's even better. Depress the detent pin with a thumbnail or wooden golf tee and turn. If it's really gunked up you can use a pair of vice grips on the coin. Mine doesn't get stuck because I use never sieze on my threads... Something I have noticed on a few S-12s...This may help some people... The "stopper" is hard to remove because it binds up every half turn. At first I thought it was a thread problem. I just fixed one that was doing that by grinding the outer edge of the stopper where it was milled "out of round" and hitting against the bbl every half turn. Now it's perfect and screws in by hand with no resistance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccumber1916 1 Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Nice fab job dude. Any time I need a "wrench" to remove one of someone else's to help them clean it, I use a tool that only costs 25 cents and is probably already in your pocket. Yep a quarter is all it takes, if you have a 50 cent piece it's even better. Depress the detent pin with a thumbnail or wooden golf tee and turn. If it's really gunked up you can use a pair of vice grips on the coin. Mine doesn't get stuck because I use never sieze on my threads... Something I have noticed on a few S-12s...This may help some people... The "stopper" is hard to remove because it binds up every half turn. At first I thought it was a thread problem. I just fixed one that was doing that by grinding the outer edge of the stopper where it was milled "out of round" and hitting against the bbl every half turn. Now it's perfect and screws in by hand with no resistance. but cobra... the wrench is cool Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kmoore 3 Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 I use a screwdriver. I push it into the slot so that it depresses the catch, then turn the screwdriver. That torque turns the plug and you can get a half turn out that way. I then move the screwdriver back to the catch and repeat till it no longer clicks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
6500rpm 670 Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Banshee, nice job buddy. I can't believe no one's done that, keeps you from having to keep pressing the damn pin every half turn. It's not earth shattering, but it really is cool. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
banshee 69 Posted April 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 (edited) I use a screwdriver. I push it into the slot so that it depresses the catch, then turn the screwdriver. That torque turns the plug and you can get a half turn out that way. I then move the screwdriver back to the catch and repeat till it no longer clicks. I didn't have a gunsmithing screwdriver that would fit across the slots on the stopper and I will not use standard screwdrivers on ANY gun screws. They WILL damage screw and spanner slots. I want the proper tools to disassemble all of my firearms, and if I can't buy it I will make it; also I am a licensed gunsmith and I must have the correct tools to work on other peoples firearms. Edited April 16, 2007 by Banshee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
banshee 69 Posted April 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 (edited) can i get one of those what is your barrel length ? The design I come up with is for a 8 inch barrel. It may not work well with one much longer, due to the "tee" handle on the end. Edited April 16, 2007 by Banshee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccumber1916 1 Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 I use a screwdriver. I push it into the slot so that it depresses the catch, then turn the screwdriver. That torque turns the plug and you can get a half turn out that way. I then move the screwdriver back to the catch and repeat till it no longer clicks. I didn't have a gunsmithing screwdriver that would fit across the slots on the stopper and I will not use standard screwdrivers on ANY gun screws. They WILL damage screw and spanner slots. I want the proper tools to disassemble all of my firearms, and if I can't buy it I will make it; also I am a licensed gunsmith and I must have the correct tools to work on other peoples firearms. banshee... you never told me how muck for a banshee stopper tool Quote Link to post Share on other sites
banshee 69 Posted April 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 I use a screwdriver. I push it into the slot so that it depresses the catch, then turn the screwdriver. That torque turns the plug and you can get a half turn out that way. I then move the screwdriver back to the catch and repeat till it no longer clicks. I didn't have a gunsmithing screwdriver that would fit across the slots on the stopper and I will not use standard screwdrivers on ANY gun screws. They WILL damage screw and spanner slots. I want the proper tools to disassemble all of my firearms, and if I can't buy it I will make it; also I am a licensed gunsmith and I must have the correct tools to work on other peoples firearms. banshee... you never told me how muck for a banshee stopper tool I have a couple of extra, and for the shipping fee you can have one free. I don't have the time nor the desire to make a bunch of these. I doubt if I will make any more. Just remember I made these quick and from material out the scrap bin. PM me your address and I'll drop one in the mail Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marvin42 2 Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 like others have said I usually use the choke wrench & a pen or pencil for the button. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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