jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/news.html Check it out! Whatcha think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoutjoe 276 Posted May 14, 2007 Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=15077 ta-da Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrance@iacwds.com 716 Posted May 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2007 http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=15077 ta-da You're a good man Charlie Brown! Thank you. 1911 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
getitat 609 Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 Man, that thing looks schweet! I wonder what the price might be? Anybody heard? I've got no bullpups in my accumulation, but I think that may change... Respectfully posted, guido2 in Houston Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFox 69 Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 RFB Review In a nutshell 99.99% win. If HK was stamped and plastic shaped a little different you'd never question it was a HK. Trigger is like an AR's all future bullpups should be like this. Hitting shotgun shells @ 50 yards with 3X scope no prob even without a rest. Sheet metal over barrel seemed to warm up during shooting. Possibility of gun getting very hot during an extended session??? Yet to be determined. Worth MSRP. If found @ MSRP buy two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frick 3 Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 If its a typical Kel Tec product, expect two to three years before you see them in any number, and expect the support items like mags to be hard to find for longer. Don't get me wrong, I love my KT mini pistols, but it took TWO years on a waiting list to get a 380, and I am a dealer!!!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Azrial 1,091 Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 I have been waiting for this rifle for a while! I am somewhat concerned about the front dumping brass from a tactical usage standpoint. Having a stream of brass dropped at your feet could be somewhat problematic on a hard surface or in a stairwell. Frankly this would not be an issue for most folks, but still... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paladin 37 Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 I have been waiting for this rifle for a while! I am somewhat concerned about the front dumping brass from a tactical usage standpoint. Having a stream of brass dropped at your feet could be somewhat problematic on a hard surface or in a stairwell. Frankly this would not be an issue for most folks, but still... I was questioning the same thing. It would be almost inevitable that you would be stepping on your own brass. I was taught to move and shoot. Sometimes that's forward into your target or a flanking move. Either way the brass it spits out will be an issue IMO. And I have to wonder about the trigger pull on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
protected static 19 Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) If its a typical Kel Tec product, expect two to three years before you see them in any number, and expect the support items like mags to be hard to find for longer. Don't get me wrong, I love my KT mini pistols, but it took TWO years on a waiting list to get a 380, and I am a dealer!!!!!!! frick: it uses metric FAL mags, much like the SU-16 can use any AR magazine. edited to add: Here's a link to a thread on the RFB on the GunBroker.com forums, complete with pics from a very happy customer. Edited March 26, 2009 by protected static Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frick 3 Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Great, at least they aren't reinventing the wheel again, as some of the other companies do. I have an FAL and plenty of mags, so at least thats one bonus. Any idea on cost of these yet??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
protected static 19 Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Great, at least they aren't reinventing the wheel again, as some of the other companies do. I have an FAL and plenty of mags, so at least thats one bonus. Any idea on cost of these yet??? That's been their design philosophy w/ their long guns, basing them on existing magazine designs. With the RFB, they wanted to base it around a really common NATO .308 magazine. Right now, prices are north of $2000 - and in some cases, well north of that. The folks in that GunBroker thread and on KTOG.org expect the street price to stabilize well below that ($1500 - $1800) once production ramps up and the different variants are out there. We'll see... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFox 69 Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 Great, at least they aren't reinventing the wheel again, as some of the other companies do. I have an FAL and plenty of mags, so at least thats one bonus. Any idea on cost of these yet??? MSRP is $1600 Actual cost has been SCAR'ified by demand. You can get on a waiting list. Me? I'm hoping the market will tank, and once people realize they can't eat an RFB then I'll buy one dirt cheap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jpanzer 1,265 Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Anyone have any news on these or been able to locate one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reverendfranz 160 Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Great, at least they aren't reinventing the wheel again, as some of the other companies do. I have an FAL and plenty of mags, so at least thats one bonus. Any idea on cost of these yet??? MSRP is $1600 Actual cost has been SCAR'ified by demand. You can get on a waiting list. Me? I'm hoping the market will tank, and once people realize they can't eat an RFB then I'll buy one dirt cheap. Scarified? Racer X? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPGA3vjMLgE Id love to see one, not sure MSRP makes sense to me, but i dont think there is anything out there that really compares, so its probably worth it. Good plan though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vultite 57 Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 (edited) I don't buy kel tecs, EVER. They absolutely refuse to build any weapon with a metal based receiver. Their PLR rifles are only made to last 8000 rounds....(sez it in the manual) so with low standards like that I'll spend my money elsewhere...I can't imagine the RFB being much different with their building standards. EDIT: plus for that kinda $$, you can get something much nicer... Edited January 29, 2010 by Vultite Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YARP 300 Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 I don't buy kel tecs, EVER. They absolutely refuse to build any weapon with a metal based receiver. Their PLR rifles are only made to last 8000 rounds....(sez it in the manual) so with low standards like that I'll spend my money elsewhere...I can't imagine the RFB being much different with their building standards. EDIT: plus for that kinda $$, you can get something much nicer... I also had a PLR, fun little toy, great warranty (lifetime) so it really doesn't matter when they were made to last. The concept is pretty cool, but like others said you'd be stepping all over your brass, although it'd be a whole lot better to be shooting next to a team member without getting brass in your face. still like you stated Vultite I'd rather have an extra pound of weight in the working parts area than it be all plastic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 (edited) I am the owner of a PLR-22. I went back and read the manuals for the PLR-22 and PLR16 and could not find any mention of the gun(s) lasting for a certain length of time. Kel-Tec's have a lifetime warranty for the original owner and this should not be a concern. I have spoken with numerous dealers around Texas and Oklahoma and they can't keep enough inventory because they sell so quickly. If one has a concern I would give the factory a call before purchasing and get a clarification. Good luck and happy shooting, Yakdung Edited January 29, 2010 by yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YARP 300 Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 I am the owner of a PLR-22. I went back and read the manuals for the PLR-22 and PLR16 and count not find any mention of the gun(s) lasting for a certain length of time. Kel-Tec's have a lifetime warranty for the original owner and this should not be a concern. I have spoken with numerous dealers around Texas and Oklahoma and they can't keep enough inventory because they sell so quickly. If one has a concern I would give the factory a call before purchasing and get a clarification. Good luck and happy shooting, Yakdung There was a round count when Kel-Tec first started producing the PLR series because they didn't have a chrome lined barrel. Kel-Tec being the good company they are, heard from enough people (me included) bitch and added a chrome lined barrel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aubie515 2 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 (edited) KT shows 6,000 rounds in their FAQ section. I've owned a few KT...they are ok, but I hear the RFB is the cat's meow. I have one on order for $1300...to me that's a lot of coin for anything with a KT label. I hear someone paying $3k+ on GB, which is nuts. I'll give one a try at $1,300. RFB owners seem to love them and they are the only game in town for a 308 bullpup. http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/faqs.htm Edited February 3, 2010 by aubie515 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yakdung 2,926 Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 (edited) Thanks for pointing me to the FAQ. I sent an email to Kel-Tec to see what type of response I would get: "life is a relative term, it depends on ammo used, proper maintenance of the firearm, etc. at 6000 rds, just expect to need to replace some springs or something simple like than. thanks" ----- Original Message ----- From: Y. Dung To: Kel-Tec Customer service Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: Contact request from KEL-TEC CNC parts and accessories online store Hello, Can you please tell me if my gun will go out of warranty if I shoot more than 6000 rounds? I noticed that 6000 rounds is the expected life of my firearm. Q : What is the expected life of a Kel-Tec firearm A : All Kel-Tec firearms have an expected life of 6,000 rounds or more. I'm a proud owner of two of your firearms but this has stumped me. Thanks, Y. Dung Yakdung Edited February 3, 2010 by yakdung Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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